It was a joke. Lighten up.

Ultra-conservative & ultra-sensitive seem to go hand in hand. :icon_wink:

You always seem to claim a joke when your affronts to people cause someone to call you on it.

It is not a joke when you make fun of people or make incredible false claims.

How you can find humor in that is strange !!

A dumb comment.

From me, I have just gotten sick of the double standard...example.....I criticize President Obama and I am called a racist or a radical. Those who what to criticize President Bush find it funny to call him by various names instead of offering what they expect from anyone else on this President. Then the same people call for being civil....just plain dumb

I might add, that from my perspective, I also dont understand people who need to call folks they dont agree with by little cute names.....it is degrading to them and the poster in my opinion. These are the same people who DEMAND respect from others.

Fact and yet so many don't seem to understand that.

Richie, Richie Richie. You know that only you hold the title as the best insulter on this site so don't give up the title so quick. You need not share it with anyone else.

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Boy oh boy, can I understand that! I wasn't on the forum 48 hours and it was happening to me, not just degradation but out right lies too! Anyway, if nothing else, I can at least get a good laugh at them and counter the aggrivation they're trying to impose!

Belated Congratulation Richie! But perhaps you should really give the trophy back!
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Thanks Sky, I appreciate the recognition. A big difference is I ,by and large, address the liberals as a group, and one or another of them take umbrage and attack me personally. I then might respond directly to that person and am then called "hateful", or some other name. There's a big difference there.

I fully understand where you're coming from. The DNC must put out a manual to their base on how to do what liberals are doing and how to post even extremely loony, no sense nonsense posts. You see some of the unbelievable comments that are emerging on the new Voter Fraud thread? Unbelievable! Absolutely unbelievable!!!

Anyway, I've witnessed this kind of behavior for a long time in the media and I've personally experienced it extensively on Facebook where I'm a whole lot more political that I am here... a whole lot more! On Facebook however, there are people that would made the antics on here look like amateur hour, probably because there are rules that hold them back. They do try to stretch the line of the rules, but it does at least hold them back somewhat.

On Facebook and through personal emails, I've dumped a total of 3 friends so far, friends that I actually know personally and just because they had to resort to being nasty and insulting. Couldn't care less though because a friend that get as nasty and insult, like they did, have no character and are no friend anyway!

So enjoy your trophy and don't let them take that away from you like their the mostly liberal government officials take and wastes your tax dollars! :)

Actualy it took the United States Special Operations Group to put a "dent in our for." Facts are facts, didn't matter who was in office at the time, its the military that does the work.

Can you tell me what states are separated by the Mason Dixon Line?

I know but do you.

Yes....Mason and Dixon:a040:

Now can you tell me who was buried in Grant's tomb?

You must be referring to the other 7 states that our leader thinks are states, is this the name of two of them. I see that you also don't know what states are separated by the Mason Dixon Line. Google it, learn something new today.

Hey...I resemble that comment . . . :icon_wink:

No one, Grant is not buried. He is above ground.

Oh my goodness! This kinda sounds like The Villages Daily Sun is liberal media?????

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skyguy: Unfortunately far too many people do not understand what Obama is trying to create here. We are fortunate that the Supreme Court 9-0 pushed back on Obama and his Administration concerning the Hosanna v EEOC case because if they ruled in Obama's favor then it would have removed the buffer between individuals and the state. The Catholic issue you raised is another attempt;albeit for different reasons. If this law is allowed to stand then what is next Catholic agency can't operate adoption agencies unless they allow gay couples to adopt. The Boy Scouts viewed as a religious organization won't be allowed to assemble, etc.......................

Clearly Obama and his Admin believe and speak of the "freedom to worship" whereas the majority of us see it broader as the "freedom of religion' Why the difference ....Obama said it best during his 2008 campaign when he talked about those "small town Americansas bitter people clinging to guns and religion".

Meanwhile Joe Biden, a Catholic has bowed his head in shame at Obama's antics.

The american people chose wrong in 2008

Well, it seems as though the Republicans are talking religion and morality once again. Bring up David Vitter, Newt Gingrich, and Mark Folley and see their reactions.

We're talking about the greater morality here, and you're bringing up the names of individuals who failed in their personal morality as if that negates the debate. Just because someone may fail in his own morality doesn't make the strive for morality pointless.

One correction... The American people and dead people chose wrong in 2008! :clap2:

I don't know what thread you're confusing this one with, but people here are speaking about freedom of religion. The only one speaking morality here is you and I for one couldn't care less if President Kennedy had a mistress, President Carter had lust in his heart or if President Clinton got his pipes blown out in the White House. Gee, being you're the one speaking morality, does that mean that you're a Republican? :duck:

Gosh, after reading your post, maybe Buggy was right that we're talking morality after all! :coolsmiley:

Or maybe I just like throwing the football with Buggy. It's a hobby of mine:)

That's why we all think of RichieLion as the Tom Brady of The Watering Hole.

ooowwwwww!!!

the Catholic issue
 

personally, as a devout Catholic, i would like the church to refuse the federal funds and maintain its integrity. as an American taxpayer, i do not know why federal tax dollars are going to any religious institution to begin with...is this an opening for our tax dollars funding muslim schools which teach hate, or Jewish hospitals which perform abortions, or any other group doing any other thing which the taxpayer himself may not wish to support? we are spending billions rebuilding churches and mosques overseas! why???? the federal govt has its tentacles into areas where it does not belong... Get It Out!

What Goes Around Comes Around
 

My guess is that neither Obama or Hillary Clinton have forgotten the fact that Netenyahu stiffed them both very publicly. It may raise the question of to what degree the U.S., in it's current military and financial situation, should unconditionally pledge support to a government which has shown no cooperation towards our government. Israel's primary objectives seems to have become continuing to seek more financial aid and weapons from the U.S., while pursuing its own political agenda in the Middle East, regardless of our wishes. Benjamin Netanyahu may find that what goes around comes around.

Unbelievable. Nice to know where you stand, though. I knew I had your motives pegged correctly in your thread.

Do you have a problem with Jewish hospitals? I know many devout Catholics that are Democrats and who supports aboration the most, I would venture to say the Democrats, right. Before you single out anyone religion check all the facts, there are many more Jews that are against abortion that for it.

" Israel's primary objectives seems to have become continuing to seek more financial aid and weapons from the U.S., while pursuing its own political agenda in the Middle East,"

My initial response would be to ask you for some credible evidence for this statement, and I still would like to see that...but as I think about it, that sentence fits a large number of countries...actually, it is difficult to think of a country that the definition does not fit.

"My guess is that neither Obama or Hillary Clinton have forgotten the fact that Netenyahu stiffed them both very publicly."

It is quite scare to think that our foreign policy would be determined by how our representatives are treated and that personal likes and dislikes would trump what is best for tjis country and the world.


VK....if I misread what you are saying, let me know but I found your post to be rather shocking.

reply to figmo
 

figmo, i have nothing against Jewish people, my point is that religious institutions already are tax exempt, so why should ANY of them receive funding from the federal govt? there are bound to be activities of various religious groups to which taxpayers of another religion might object. it is a way for the govt to try to control and manipulate the churches, and it should stop!

But is it really fun when an opposing team continually fumbles the ball and your team keeps scoring touchdown after touchdown? Just wondering!

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Ally Not Friend
 

You're absolutely correct, Bucco. It's a longstanding adage among foreign policy makers that sovereign countries have no friends. They have allies and enemies, both of which can and do change from time to time.

In this case, people defend Israel because they are our only friend in the Middle East. They were a lot more friendly during the time we propped them up as a newly-formed country, providing financial aid and arms. Their economy and defense system is now quite mature. Their economy is providing plenty of opportunity and a reasonably high standard of living for all Israelis. But even though their economy is even stronger than our own, only a fraction of the size of course, they still express the need for our foreign aid.

Some people here have said that we should eliminate all foreign aid payments. I wonder if they realize that 80% of U.S. foreign aid payments go to Israel?

Weapons? Of course we continue to supply Israel with weapons. Oh, the accounting ledger will show that they buy the fighter planes, tanks, electronics, etc., mostly from U.S. manufacturers. But paying for the weapons with what? The money we give them in foreign aid, of course! Does anyone realize that the total of our foreign aid to Israel is more than their entire defense budget? Does anyone realize that Israel spends about 50% more on defense as a percentage of their GDP than we do? Think about that.

So for all that, should we expect more cooperation from Israel? Should we expect to have a say in the way they conduct themselves as a nation if it places the U.S. or Americans in greater peril? Do you remember when the entire general staff of our military made a special visit to the White House to argue that Israel's military conduct was putting American soldiers serving in the Middle East in significantly greater peril? Do you remember when Vice President Biden made a 14-hour trip to Israel to meet with Netenyahu only to find that he wouldn't even meet with him, assigning an Israeli minister to meet with the American Vice President? Both those events happened less than a year ago.

I would say that we should have a say in how Israel conducts it's affairs. The U.S. has bought and paid for Israel's allegiance and cooperation. They are an ally in the Middle East, but the way they have conducted themselves in recent years makes them a long way from a being a "friend". I believe we should treat them as an ally, applying whatever political, economic and security pressure necessary to achieve American foreign policy objectives.

And if President Obama, Vice President Biden and Hillary Clinton don't forget being publicly embarrassed by Benjamin Netanyahu the next time Israel asks for more aid or weapons, I wouldn't blame them. They should treat Israel and it's government with American interests as their first and foremost objective. Period!

I'm not questioning the validity of what you state here, but it certainly doesn't help when you have a president so inept as to make the kind of gaff he did as described on this page: Obama Embarrasses America and Belittles Our Ally Prime Minister Netanyahu and Israel :ohdear:

So many posts here are sarcastic....why do you pick on this guy? Spread your comments evenly across the right wing posters whose acid tongues we have to tolerate over and over again.....

My criticism is ONLY and TOTALLY aimed at those who villify other people or institutions WITH ABSOLUTELY FREE REIGN, NOT EVEN SUPPLYING WHAT MAKES THEM THINK THAT.

It is also reserved for those who make CRIMINAL ACCUSATIONS as this poster has done about public people and when proven to be 100% false, just jump to another thread and another person to attack.

Frankly, while this forum has been for years full of a bit of sarcasm and the such, this poster and a few others take it to an extreme.

Your church, on the other hand, is trying to force IT's beliefs onto the rest of us. I am OK with abortions being peformed...you are not. When your church stops trying to legislate morality, then there is a commonality for discussion. I have nothing against catholics...I got one my degrees at Loyola University and am still friends with some of the people I met there.

This whole thing is a slippery slope....in a country with many different points of view you MUST be willing to accept some things you do not like just like others have to accept things you want and they don't. It will never be all the way you believe and it will never be all the way I believe. I am more then willing to accept or at least tolerate different tenets than I believe.

Not allowing stem cell research for 8 years has seriously hampered scientific advancements...many many lives were negatively affected. And please, do not make this another forum for abortion discussions. I do believe that has been played out again and again in this forum and I don't think anyone really wants to hear it hashed out again.

I don't think you're referring to me because nowhere did I say "all" foreign aid.

Also you're falsely reporting that Israel receive 80% of U.S. aid. You've either made a huge mistake or are purposely lying about that. I don't know which.

Israel may get, at most, 30% of U.S. foreign aid, and is the only country that really needs our foreign aid in regard to it tenuous hold in hostile territory.

Pretty much all other recipients are wealthy enough not to deserve further cash from us.

Somewhere,and I am sorry..not sure where, I read that about 1/3....33% of our foreign aid goes to a combination of Israel and Egypt !