I don't know where you come from but the hospitals I have used, billed you whether or not you had insurance. And then if you don't pay, they sic the bill collectors on you. There is NO free health care that I know of, other than Medicaid for the poor.
The price of health care is also high because of how much doctors and hospitals have to pay for malpractice insurance. We need tort reform, something that wasn't even addressed in Obamacare. They purposely ignored it. Obama wants Obamacare to fail so that the gov can go to socialized medicine. Purchasing insurance through the Free Enterprise system across state lines would also have brought down the cost of insurance. Also not addressed on purpose. Both of these things were brought up by Republicans and discarded by the socialists in congress.
Now, with Obamacare, the poor are getting even more poor because if they do get insurance, they have to pay outrageous deductibles. Medicaid was expanded costing the taxpayer more money, but most will accept that part. But, the promise for insurance for all, cheaper for all is a myth perpetrated by Obama. We still have millions without health care insurance. Oh, and let's not forget the half trillion plus that was stolen from Medicare to pay for it.

You can take your Obamacare and stick it.

Bernie the Communist

Bernie's respect for women

Thank you for making my point. Hitler, as head of the National Socialist German Workers' Party, was a socialist, same as Bernie. Hitler indeed did say all the things you said he said. Trump is a lot of things, but a socialist he is not. Other socialist like Bernie include Stalin, Lenin, Zedong, Guevara, Allende, Rousseff, Castro, Morales, Maduro, and Cavez. Maybe Bernie can do for us what these fine leaders did for their respective countries. How does standing in long lines to buy milk and toilet paper sound to you.

Look at the Scandanavian countries and they have Socialism. The citizens of those countries are among the happiest in the world.

I was on a recent cruise and spoke with a man from Denmark. He said they pay a 40 percent income tax which he admitted was a lot of money. But they receive GOOD free medical care. He had a knee replacement done and it did not require a long wait to be done nor did it cost him anything at all. He has 3 children who will receiving FREE college. He is receiving a very nice retirement pension that allows him to go on cruises and vacations. Workers get very generous paid vacation time.

The leaders you mentioned were dictators - sort of what Trump, Cruz, or Rubio want for themselves.

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I think we all agree the system is broken.
I don't believe anyone would not agree that everyone wants but no one wants to pay.
Personal experience-years ago I had several blood tests done as ordered by my doctor. At the time we had AETNA insurance and they denied one of the several tests were necessary. They our bill as a private payer was about $300 for that test. AETNA would have paid $35 and the company doing the test would have gotten that as PAYMENT IN FULL. You would not want to be the person at QUEST trying to explain this to me. BY THE WAY-I paid the $35 that AETNA would have paid and QUEST accepted it as payment in full.
As to everyone wanting and wanting others to pay. I was self employed and healthcare insurance cost my family about 20,000. For those who work for government or companies that provide healthcare insurance WHY IS THAT 20,000 NOT TAXED AS INCOME?
Have you not noticed that is your insurance pays for say six weeks of physical therapy, you will get six weeks. Nothing magical will happen after the six weeks. In fact in the end they will show you how to do it yourself-something you could have found on the internet without seeing the therapist.

Re: hospitals billing you.
Fortunately we both have assets for collections to go after so we have insurance. For people who have nothing to loose they have no reason to pay.

As to OBAMACARE, we agree it has been a disaster. Our government decided to reinvent the wheel. Obama gave a speech that his plan would not affect people using healthcare, would not reduce a doctors income, would not reduce profits of the insurance companies, would not reduce income for attornies. Oh and he was going to pay for it all with computer record keeping-all doctors already had computer record keeping so as to deal with both government and private insurance.
WE DID NOT NEED TO REINVENT THE WHEEL we could have looked and found the rest of the industrial world gets similar life spans-some slightly more some slightly less AT HALF THE COST FOR MEDICAL CARE.

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First of all Medicare and prescription drug coverage were added so Social Security WITH NO FUNDING.

We are all aware that OBAMA has doubled our national debt. If, you/we believe in Keynesian economic theory and that in a recession the government should run deficit spending to prop up the economy. We all agree that 10 TRILLION is a huge amount of money-In fact it is several train loads of hundred dollar bills.

Am I the only one to wonder WHAT DID WE BUY WITH THAT DEBT-a highways system-no, Hoover dam-no, Public parks-no-WHAT DID WE BUY?

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I recently discovered-we have been told that CHINA is our largest creditor nation. Fact is we owe just slightly more to Japan. For the big slight of hand-together Japan and China hold slightly less that 20% of our national debt. SOCIAL SECURITY HOLDS 42% OF THE NATIONAL DEBT. Obama has not only stolen you FORCED PAYMENT to social security but that of several generations after us. I DID NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA. REGRETTABLY, I'VE HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO DID ADMIT THEY WERE WRONG-FAR AS I KNOW I WAS NOT SUCCESSFUL IN TALKING ANYONE OUT OF VOTING FOR OBAMA.

Big myth! You really should Google socialism in those countries and see how bad it really is. I did and it sucks. Taxes are so high, and EVERYONE pays them. Not like here where only the wealthy pay your taxes. Shoot, in our country, a family of four making $50k a year pays NO taxes. Everyone has to pay for socialism. It ain't free pie in the sky Obama Utopia. So, before parroting what someone else tells you, try Google and get some information on your socialism.

I lived overseas for about half my life and I know the difference between what we have and what THEY have. There is nothing over there that I want over here. Like the saying goes "the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence."

Once again the ignorant right wingers spout nonsense as part of their Obama Derangement Syndrome.

The cost of malpractice insurance is a pittance of the cost of health care.

Medical Malpractice: Myths and Realities - True Cost of Health Care

Medical liability costs in U.S. pegged at 2.4 percent of annual health care spending | News | Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health

So, a doctor paying over a hundred grand a year for malpractice insurance is not going charge more to cover the expense? You have been drinking too much of that fruit drink. Check out what Texas did for Tort Reform. They had doctors racing to move to their state. Perhaps, you should check it out rather than push the myth of Free emergency room service for those that don't have insurance.

When a person has a reading comprehension problem, one could say that person is "ignorant" but I won't accuse you. What part of "The price of health care is also high because....." did you not understand? The word "also" could be replaced with the word "contributed to" or "in addition to" but then you probably would still have problems with comprehension.

There are many reasons for health care costing so much. But, even though Obama promised everyone that their health care cost would go down, it really didn't, did it? As a matter of fact, it went up for just about everyone. Personally, I think that this was his plan.

I do not see your point at all. The Dane gentleman said taxes were 40 percent of your income and everybody does pay. All pay! What is wrong with that? The taxes are high, everyone pays, everyone gets the benefits. What is wrong with that?

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Dear Guest: allow me to offer another point of view concerning this subject.
Once long ago in another era single payer health care was a way to expand access to the relative few things medical care could do for patients and hence it had appeal. Today the single payer system Sanders offers prospective voters would not expand access it would only serve to deny and limit care in order to control spending.

Obamacare gave many corporations the cover they needed to remove themselves from offering medical care as a benefit. Obama's excessive and unnecessary regulations have had a serious affect on the business environment and the economy. business people will not invest under these circumstances . say what you will but socialism by any other name Obamacare, climate change, income inequality single payer is a method of income redistribution.

And I'll put myself out there further by predicting that if Sanders prevails the only way he is going to be able to continue his insane push of socialism is by transforming this nation to a police state via laws. Unlike Denmark, etc where people only take what they need too many Americans have an affinity for free stuff and an entitlement mentality that tells them they can take as much as they like

Some one like Thomas Sowell or Jason Riley will explain that all the free stuff white liberals gave to blacks had an inverse effect. Golf is a game of contradictions and so is the issue of free stuff. It robs people of incentive and motivation and increases their demands for more entitlements.

Why do liberals continue to ignore the limits of nature and /or nature's natural laws?

And some are paying 50% or more. Cars sales taxes are at 180%. What's wrong with that? LIberals would be crying up a storm about how low income folks couldn't afford it. Then they would want to up the percentage for the wealthy even more.

Interview: Michael Booth, Author Of 'The Almost Nearly Perfect People' : NPR

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