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Guest 02-21-2016 10:23 AM

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Nope, I don't see it happening that way. If there is a Trump/Rubio ticket, they will definitely be up against Hillary, but we we don't know who her running mate will be. In addition, as someone else mentioned, mainstream Republicans will surely see Trump as a loose canon, Rubio as a right wing fringe nut and I suspect he won't get any votes from independents either. Hillary, on the other hand, is the only person running with serious foreign policy credentials. And in this terrorist climate, that is one of the most important credentials of all. Plus, she clearly will get the votes of blacks and people of color, who are a majority in the country. I don't see any way she can lose, based on who the Republicans are offering up.

Hillary will not be a concern. The Democrat establishment doesn't even support her. If she gets nominated, they know that the GOP gets the White House no matter which GOP candidate is nominated.

Trump is a loose cannon but to call Rubio "a right wing fringe" is the stupidest thing I have heard this year (it's early yet). I actually consider him to be moderate, but conservative.

Hillary getting the black vote is laughable. They won't even turn out for her. News flash, the call blacks a minority group because they ARE a minority. The black voter is NOT a majority. Wow! You need to do a bit of reading.

Guest 02-21-2016 11:00 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1188629)
Nope, I don't see it happening that way. If there is a Trump/Rubio ticket, they will definitely be up against Hillary, but we we don't know who her running mate will be. In addition, as someone else mentioned, mainstream Republicans will surely see Trump as a loose canon, Rubio as a right wing fringe nut and I suspect he won't get any votes from independents either. Hillary, on the other hand, is the only person running with serious foreign policy credentials. And in this terrorist climate, that is one of the most important credentials of all. Plus, she clearly will get the votes of blacks and people of color, who are a majority in the country. I don't see any way she can lose, based on who the Republicans are offering up.

Your loose use of stating which groups are majorities in America speaks to the lack of credibility of the post.
You need to do a little research....beyond the talking points issued.
Maybe this will serve as an example:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_a..._United_States

Guest 02-21-2016 11:11 AM

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Voters recognize that there is not a perfect candidate. However, we are in an election year and not just an ordinary one, but a critical one and we do not have one candidate worthy of this office.

America has watched as a man whom they knew was worthy of this position but voted for him because of either party or because of his color or both. His presidency is so replete with bad judgments, irrational decision and child-like behavior that it would take the 7.5 years he as been in office to list them.

It shocks the conscience to realize that anyone would vote for Hillary given her record of dishonesty and incompetence. Indeed the political and elite class have gotten so powerful that given the allegation against her that she is even allowed to run. One has to go no further than understand the danger she placed this nation with the use of a personal server so that she could hide her record.
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Bernie Sanders is preaching marxism and voters are cheering. Are these voters so unaware of the fact that marxism, communism socialism is the enemy of this free nation. Free stuff translates into we own you and i for one do not want to be owned by anyone and especially government

Trump is all bluster. But the biggest fear I have is that he has not given one idota of detail as to how he will serve as our president. he has tapped into voters anger and they have responded irrationally

Bush it is said will suspend his campaign

Cruz is another danger in my mind. he has been unethical in his campaign. I question his citizenship

Rubio is indeed too inexperienced and yet is the best of this bad lot

Kasich is a RINO and his decision concerning Medicaid concerns me.

So here we are 8 months from voting for the next president and not one in my mind is suited for this important position and a a very critical time

Personal Best Regards:

No offense intended but Rubio is only one year younger than Cruz and has 15 years political experience compared to Cruz's two years experience. Don't mistake Rubio's young appearance with him being unqualified for the job. Out of all the candidates, Rubio has the best traits to bring congress back together again. He is likable as well as smart.

Guest 02-21-2016 01:41 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1188700)
Doesn't this say something about you and your repub party as a whole. Maybe the answer is, your out of the the mainstream, after all you are the minority.

Apparently you are correct, I am out of the mainstream. When this started Christie, Paul, and Fiorina were my top 3 so that will tell you something about my leanings. I still stand by my original comment though that I can't believe what we are seeing on the stages of these debates is the best America has. During my working career I worked for people with more leadership skills than are displayed in this campaign. Although Trump and Hillary can fill a town hall with supporters I can only think their followers are desperate for someone to lead them. I personally don't think any of the remaining candidates could lead a pack of hungry wolves to fresh meat. IMO

Guest 02-21-2016 01:52 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1188770)
No offense intended but Rubio is only one year younger than Cruz and has 15 years political experience compared to Cruz's two years experience. Don't mistake Rubio's young appearance with him being unqualified for the job. Out of all the candidates, Rubio has the best traits to bring congress back together again. He is likable as well as smart.

Rubio is a great financial advisor, he has a lot of experience with credit cards, how to manipulate them. Also, his brother-in-law took him under his wing.

Guest 02-21-2016 02:03 PM

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Rubio is a great financial advisor, he has a lot of experience with credit cards, how to manipulate them. Also, his brother-in-law took him under his wing.

That is a stupid and superficial comment.

Guest 02-21-2016 02:22 PM

I think that Trump would be the best. He is far from stupid. Just because he calls it like it is, makes him unlikeable to many. We have had an eloquent speaker in there the last 7 years and you see where we are with that. Trump is 100% right-on in saying that PC (politically correct) is burying us, along with all the sell-outs from this administration. Sometime truth hurts.

He has already stated early on that he does not have all the answers but will absolutely depend on those who do. He has said all along that he intends to get the best people on board to guide his decisions. I believe that is true and that his choice for a running mate will be no different.

We do need to bring jobs back to THIS country; not send them to Cuba like the tractor manufacturer Obama just went along with. We do need to take care of our own from everything to security to medical and all in between. It's about time we get someone who is not beholden to all the special interest groups and their money. If he does what he says, and I think he will, he plans to take $1 for his salary and donate the rest to charity along with NOT taking a lifetime retirement.

This is a job and whoever gets the job is supposed to work for US...AMERICA. Congressional jobs were never designed to be the careers that they have become. These people are supposed to work for US, not all their special interest buddies/lobbyists.

As an owner/CEO, he understands the importance of relying on the best to get a job done. He has not built the empire he has by trying to do everything himself. (Of course, according to our current "leader", he didn't BUILD anything.) He has said that he intends to get people that know what they are doing and LISTEN to them and then HEED their advice.

People keep yelling that politics should be about what the people want and then when what the majority indicates they want by their votes, they are called all kinds of names, especially by the media pundits. Go figure.

He has no problem with immigrants, nor do I. What we both have is a problem with ILLEGAL immigration (by the way, so do the legal ones here) and the non-vetting of middle-east refugees. They need to be proven to be legitimate refugees and not terrorism operatives.

Question for everyone: When did we become a nation of minority rule instead of majority rule, anyway? Why does an entire nation have to cow-tow to a minority of 1 instead of the majority of the rest? Respect of individuals does not mean that everyone has to change.

Guest 02-21-2016 02:36 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1188870)
I think that Trump would be the best. He is far from stupid. Just because he calls it like it is, makes him unlikeable to many. We have had an eloquent speaker in there the last 7 years and you see where we are with that. Trump is 100% right-on in saying that PC (politically correct) is burying us, along with all the sell-outs from this administration. Sometime truth hurts.

He has already stated early on that he does not have all the answers but will absolutely depend on those who do. He has said all along that he intends to get the best people on board to guide his decisions. I believe that is true and that his choice for a running mate will be no different.

We do need to bring jobs back to THIS country; not send them to Cuba like the tractor manufacturer Obama just went along with. We do need to take care of our own from everything to security to medical and all in between. It's about time we get someone who is not beholden to all the special interest groups and their money. If he does what he says, and I think he will, he plans to take $1 for his salary and donate the rest to charity along with NOT taking a lifetime retirement.

This is a job and whoever gets the job is supposed to work for US...AMERICA. Congressional jobs were never designed to be the careers that they have become. These people are supposed to work for US, not all their special interest buddies/lobbyists.

As an owner/CEO, he understands the importance of relying on the best to get a job done. He has not built the empire he has by trying to do everything himself. (Of course, according to our current "leader", he didn't BUILD anything.) He has said that he intends to get people that know what they are doing and LISTEN to them and then HEED their advice.

People keep yelling that politics should be about what the people want and then when what the majority indicates they want by their votes, they are called all kinds of names, especially by the media pundits. Go figure.

He has no problem with immigrants, nor do I. What we both have is a problem with ILLEGAL immigration (by the way, so do the legal ones here) and the non-vetting of middle-east refugees. They need to be proven to be legitimate refugees and not terrorism operatives.

Question for everyone: When did we become a nation of minority rule instead of majority rule, anyway? Why does an entire nation have to cow-tow to a minority of 1 instead of the majority of the rest? Respect of individuals does not mean that everyone has to change.

1. Do you want a President, the man who represents our country, who says F@@@ and P&(($ in a public discussion ? Is this the kind of man you want your children and grand children to look up to?

2. Do you want a President to think so little of you, the voter, that he simply says thinks for their entertainment value an brags how it gets him air time ?

3. Do you want a man who has changed his stance on health care so many times, it makes your head spin, and whose last stance made his proposal twice as expensive as ObamaCare.

4. Do you want a President who proudly said he was against a trade deal during the debate, and had no idea of even what countries were involved?

There are more, but if you want your representative to the world to be of such low character he simply, as he said this morning when asked why he questioned Rubio's eleibility to be President, that he just retweeted it for fun.

He is playing the electorate, and if continues, we will pay dearly.

Guest 02-21-2016 02:48 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1188770)
No offense intended but Rubio is only one year younger than Cruz and has 15 years political experience compared to Cruz's two years experience. Don't mistake Rubio's young appearance with him being unqualified for the job. Out of all the candidates, Rubio has the best traits to bring congress back together again. He is likable as well as smart.

Dear Guest: No offense is taken. Rubio is first on my list. I also have considered that Rubio is smart enough to surround himself with good people.
He clearly is a patriot and I believe he has moral integrity. what I find lacking is he has no executive experience nor served in the military

The following candidates would be a total disaster for this country Trump, Cruz, Clinton, Sanders.

My wish list for priorities for the president in 2017 are reduction of government, elimination of the Federal Reserve, simplification of our tax system to eliminate or greatly reduce the IRS, elimination many federal agencies returning control to states. Term limits for congress 6 years and Supreme Court 12 years...I know I know "when you wish upon a star....

Personal Best Regards:

Guest 02-21-2016 02:55 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1188874)
1. Do you want a President, the man who represents our country, who says F@@@ and P&(($ in a public discussion ? Is this the kind of man you want your children and grand children to look up to?

2. Do you want a President to think so little of you, the voter, that he simply says thinks for their entertainment value an brags how it gets him air time ?

3. Do you want a man who has changed his stance on health care so many times, it makes your head spin, and whose last stance made his proposal twice as expensive as ObamaCare.

4. Do you want a President who proudly said he was against a trade deal during the debate, and had no idea of even what countries were involved?

There are more, but if you want your representative to the world to be of such low character he simply, as he said this morning when asked why he questioned Rubio's eleibility to be President, that he just retweeted it for fun.

He is playing the electorate, and if continues, we will pay dearly.

And this list of "insultees" of Trump......would it not make you proud to have someone in the White House who insults anyone who does not "cow tail".

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...ults.html?_r=0

This is not being political correct. It is a matter of someone who is a crass, bully and who is conning voters.

Guest 02-21-2016 03:04 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1188881)
Dear Guest: No offense is taken. Rubio is first on my list. I also have considered that Rubio is smart enough to surround himself with good people.
He clearly is a patriot and I believe he has moral integrity. what I find lacking is he has no executive experience nor served in the military.

My wish list for priorities for the president in 2017 are reduction of government, elimination of the Federal Reserve, simplification of our tax system to eliminate or greatly reduce the IRS, elimination many federal agencies returning control to states. Term limits for congress 6 years and Supreme Court 12 years...I know I know "when you wish upon a star....

Personal Best Regards:

Well, WHY didn't Rubio - being such a patriot - I ever join the military? Therefore, no moral integrity.

As for term limits for Congress and the Supreme Court - this would have to be done through amendments to the Constitution and ratifications by 3/4 of the states. Extremely lengthy process - and how many Congressmen are going to vote on a 6 year term for themselves when they have such a sweet deal?

Guest 02-21-2016 03:11 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1188889)
Well, WHY didn't Rubio - being such a patriot - I ever join the military? Therefore, no moral integrity.

As for term limits for Congress and the Supreme Court - this would have to be done through amendments to the Constitution and ratifications by 3/4 of the states. Extremely lengthy process - and how many Congressmen are going to vote on a 6 year term for themselves when they have such a sweet deal?

So, you are one of those that gives up on issues that you don't care about, right? I guess we had better just all go home and hide under our beds because life is just to hard to cope.

Guest 02-21-2016 03:15 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1188874)
1. Do you want a President, the man who represents our country, who says F@@@ and P&(($ in a public discussion ? Is this the kind of man you want your children and grand children to look up to?

2. Do you want a President to think so little of you, the voter, that he simply says thinks for their entertainment value an brags how it gets him air time ?

3. Do you want a man who has changed his stance on health care so many times, it makes your head spin, and whose last stance made his proposal twice as expensive as ObamaCare.

4. Do you want a President who proudly said he was against a trade deal during the debate, and had no idea of even what countries were involved?

There are more, but if you want your representative to the world to be of such low character he simply, as he said this morning when asked why he questioned Rubio's eleibility to be President, that he just retweeted it for fun.

He is playing the electorate, and if continues, we will pay dearly.

1. Guess we'll just have to overlook that, right? By your opinion, we should have fired Biden, right?

2. The answer to this question is that we have exactly that in the White House right now.

3. We have a president that was pro-life, now isn't, was against gay marriage, now he is, was against raising the debt limit, now he is for it. Etc, etc.

4. Guess he will have to learn real fast, won't he. Looks like the writing is no the wall, and unless Rubio can beat him, Trump will be president number 45.

Guest 02-21-2016 03:21 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1188889)
Well, WHY didn't Rubio - being such a patriot - I ever join the military? Therefore, no moral integrity.

As for term limits for Congress and the Supreme Court - this would have to be done through amendments to the Constitution and ratifications by 3/4 of the states. Extremely lengthy process - and how many Congressmen are going to vote on a 6 year term for themselves when they have such a sweet deal?

Too many people who know nothing about the Constitution think it is easy to just say term limits should be imposed. Constitutional amendments take years of hard work to accomplish.

Guest 02-21-2016 03:26 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1188903)
Too many people who know nothing about the Constitution think it is easy to just say term limits should be imposed. Constitutional amendments take years of hard work to accomplish.

And that is the comfort all the incompetent career politicians take.
In addition to having so many stupid Americans tha continue to re-elect those incometents.

They can do no wrong....and if they do they get to keep their job anyway.

Obama = proof positive of that fact.
Clinton "
Wrangle "
Pelosi "
Dirty hary "

Just to name a few well known examples.


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