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Guest 06-13-2016 05:37 PM

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big·ot
ˈbiɡət/
noun
noun: bigot; plural noun: bigots

a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.

As is typical, far too many discuss a subject without knowledge of meaning.

Seems by the above definition there are a whole lot of bigots!
And they abound both on the left and right of the political spectrum!

Guest 06-13-2016 05:45 PM

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Typical bigot, you post that which is to your thinking, disregarding other.

From the Merriam-Webster dictionary

"Simple Definition of bigot

: a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas, etc. : a bigoted person; especially : a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or religious group)"

Aren!'t you a bigot because of your intolerance towards Villagers?
You have prejudged so many people that you don't even know!

Guest 06-13-2016 05:53 PM

Bigotry is a Belief System without a specific hierarchy as is the case with many of the World`s major Belief Systems especially those Belief Systems prevalent in Asian Countries .

Guest 06-13-2016 05:53 PM

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Archer Bunker is running for President. At least, a very stupid version of him in Donald Trump.

It is a waste of time to get involved with a bigoted poster like this!

Guest 06-13-2016 05:55 PM

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Bigotry is a Belief System without a specific hierarchy as is the case with many of the World`s major Belief Systems especially those Belief Systems prevalent in Asian Countries .

Good Point ! :agree:

Guest 06-13-2016 05:57 PM

"There is a principle that will banish a man to eternal ignorance, and that is contempt prior to investigation"

Guest 06-13-2016 06:02 PM

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"There is a principle that will banish a man to eternal ignorance, and that is contempt prior to investigation"

Good Grief Charlie Brown .

Guest 06-13-2016 06:09 PM

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Bigotry is a Belief System without a specific hierarchy as is the case with many of the World`s major Belief Systems especially those Belief Systems prevalent in Asian Countries .

The racial hierarchy, with White groups of European origin at the top and people of color at the bottom, serves important functions for society and for certain categories of people. It ensures, for example, that some people are available to do society's dirty work at low wages. The racial hierarchy has positive consequences for the status quo: It enables the powerful to retain their control and their advantages. Racial stratification also offers better occupational opportunities, income, and education to White people. These advantages constitute racial privilege (Eitzen et al., 2011:209).Chapter 8: Racial & Ethnic Inequality

Don't bigots believe in racial hierarchy with them at the top?

Guest 06-13-2016 06:21 PM

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Oh no. You called me gay. That's funny.
Did you see my post on how many people believe that 23% of the population is gay?

Why do you think that's so?

I honestly cant tell one poster from the other, they all say "Guest". Possibly you can share your wisdom, so I can judge a person by more than one post.

I have no idea why anyone would compare a gun club membership to the gay population %, unless they were gay and just wanted to whine about it more...

Guest 06-13-2016 06:31 PM

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I honestly cant tell one poster from the other, they all say "Guest". Possibly you can share your wisdom, so I can judge a person by more than one post.

I have no idea why anyone would compare a gun club membership to the gay population %, unless they were gay and just wanted to whine about it more...

I'll rephrase the question. Why would people polled by Pew believe that 23% of the population are gay when it's less then 4%?

Less than 2% of the population are in the NRA. But I would have guessed it was more like 15% considering how powerful they are.

I think it's perception. Neither one is a very large group but both groups get a good deal of the media's attention.

Guest 06-13-2016 06:32 PM

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"Whereas 38% of Americans said gay and lesbian relations were morally acceptable in 2002, that number has risen to 63% today. And while 35% of Americans favored legalized same-sex marriage in 1999, 60% favor it today." I guess you are in the minority in your thinking according to this Gallop pole.

I am happy to be in the minority on that stuff! Maybe they just favored it so they would stop whining on TV every night (kind of like "whatever go FU(K yourself", but more like "whatever go SU(K your partner till you choke". Surely they don't hope their children grow up to be gays.

If 3.8% of the population can whine that much to sway public opinion in that short of time. Just think what 40% of Americans (that do not "favor it") can accomplish!

Guest 06-13-2016 06:36 PM

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I'll rephrase the question. Why would people polled by Pew believe that 23% of the population are gay when it's less then 4%?

Less than 2% of the population are in the NRA. But I would have guessed it was more like 15% considering how powerful they are.

I think it's perception. Neither one is a very large group but both groups get a good deal of the media's attention.

Ok got your point. Yes, I suppose perception has a lot to do with many things. As someone on here always complains "the media tells us what they want us to hear".

You going to share how to keep straight who the posts are by?

Guest 06-13-2016 06:39 PM

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Just think what 40% of Americans (that do not "favor it") can accomplish!

Or Radical Islamic groups...

Guest 06-13-2016 06:48 PM

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Bigotry is a Belief System without a specific hierarchy as is the case with many of the World`s major Belief Systems especially those Belief Systems prevalent in Asian Countries .

This statement means in simple terms that Bigotry as a Belief System has no infrastructural hierarchy such as a Pope , Cardinals or Bishops .

This is similar to most of the Eastern Belief Systems / Religions which have no hierarchy such as " Hinduism ", Shintoism , Confucianism, and Buddhism .

Guest 06-13-2016 07:25 PM

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Ok got your point. Yes, I suppose perception has a lot to do with many things. As someone on here always complains "the media tells us what they want us to hear".

You going to share how to keep straight who the posts are by?

No I don't that's it, mostly. The agenda of the LBGT is completely different from the NRA. The media can't be mostly from the left if they spend so much time on the NRA and visa versa.

I don't know what to think. My hunch is that they are sideshows, a cover story meant to keep your mind off what's going on in the center ring, something that really matters.

I haven't figured it out yet.

Guest 06-13-2016 07:40 PM

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This statement means in simple terms that Bigotry as a Belief System has no infrastructural hierarchy such as a Pope , Cardinals or Bishops .

This is similar to most of the Eastern Belief Systems / Religions which have no hierarchy such as " Hinduism ", Shintoism , Confucianism, and Buddhism .

Bigotry certainly places someone who looks like you at the top. And someone who looks like all the racist photographs you see on TOTV at the bottom. You don't need to be called the Pope of the Villages to be superior. Do you?

Guest 06-13-2016 07:45 PM

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Good Grief Charlie Brown .

Too hard for you to understand?

Guest 06-13-2016 07:47 PM

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Bigotry certainly places someone who looks like you at the top. And someone who looks like all the racist photographs you see on TOTV at the bottom. You don't need to be called the Pope of the Villages to be superior. Do you?

Bigotry does not have any structured or consistent rules . It is an individual belief system .

Guest 06-13-2016 07:50 PM

Some people like to hear themselves talk, and it spills over to their written comments on forums!

Guest 06-13-2016 07:52 PM

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Bigotry does not have any structured or consistent rules . It is an individual belief system .

Is someone at the top? Is someone at the bottom? Is it consistent what the person at the top looks like or can it sometimes by a black person or a muslim or someone who is gay?

They have a caste system in India. In descending order, the classes are as follows:

Brahmana (now more commonly spelled Brahmin): Consist of those engaged in scriptural education and teaching, essential for the continuation of knowledge.
Kshatriya: Take on all forms of public service, including administration, maintenance of law and order, and defense.
Vaishya: Engage in commercial activity as businessmen.
Shudra: Work as semi-skilled and unskilled laborers.

Why do Americans have the phrase "at the bottom of the barrel"?

Guest 06-13-2016 07:53 PM

This is a conversation. It is interesting.

Guest 06-13-2016 08:03 PM

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Some people like to hear themselves talk, and it spills over to their written comments on forums!

The people that always insult and never provide a link or back what they say expect the reader to believe them. Because they said so. They like to hear themselves talk and hopefully a couple of like minded friends will listen and add emoticons or come to their defense.

Guest 06-13-2016 08:05 PM

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Some people like to hear themselves talk, and it spills over to their written comments on forums!

Sorry but not an original or relevant comment .

Guest 06-13-2016 08:13 PM

Some religions are based upon the worship and veneration of departed ancestors .
My daughter was a competitive figure skater . Many of the other young girls were of Asian heritage . There Mothers were highly educated either MDs or PHDs . They would scold their 10 year old daughters for not working hard enough telling them in anger " you insult your ancestors by not working " . " Get back out there or no food for you " !
My favorite was " you hurt ancestor -- you sleep on floor ! " .
So Bigotry is an individual belief system . It works for many people and gets them through life day to day .

Guest 06-13-2016 08:24 PM

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Sorry but not an original or relevant comment .

It might be relevant.

When someone calls another a petulant child they see themselves as an authority figure. But where are they an authority figure? In their own home? When they were boss and others had to suck it up and laugh at their jokes? With their children?

Certainly not in the villages, we have all survived and know what they know, maybe even more.

They lack respect for their peers. They think they are better then the rest. Opposing honest opinions are very uncomfortable.

Guest 06-13-2016 08:33 PM

I get your point .

Guest 06-13-2016 08:37 PM

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Some religions are based upon the worship and veneration of departed ancestors .
My daughter was a competitive figure skater . Many of the other young girls were of Asian heritage . There Mothers were highly educated either MDs or PHDs . They would scold their 10 year old daughters for not working hard enough telling them in anger " you insult your ancestors by not working " . " Get back out there or no food for you " !
My favorite was " you hurt ancestor -- you sleep on floor ! " .
So Bigotry is an individual belief system . It works for many people and gets them through life day to day .

I have a similar story about a Korean family I knew. Where is the bigotry? Who hates who?

Guest 06-14-2016 04:51 AM

Sorry, but there isn't a law against being a bigot, YET. I realize that Obie's AG is attempting to convince him to write an E.O. that stipulates a law against "hate speech." But, that will be shot down by the Supreme Court, if it happens, even a liberal Supreme Court.

Being a bigot is legal as long as it does not interfere on how someone is treated in the work place.

Is being a bigot an evil thing? The Pope and other religious leaders are bigots because they HATE sin. Muslims are bigots because they hate gays and infidels. Obama is a bigot because he hates Republicans and white folks. But, are they really bigots? To be a bigot, one must be INTOLERANT. Putting Muslims aside, many folks are tolerant but do not condone. I love my gay relatives and friends but do NOT condone their gay practice. I tolerate them because of that brotherly love. But, for a libtard to insist that you either welcome and embrace their sin or you are a bigot, makes them WHAT? Gays want the church to endorse their behavior when it is against almost EVERY religion in the world. If you suggest that homosexuality is not normal, then you are immediately considered a bigot. That is the only defense of the gay community. They wish to be take seriously and then they make themselves appear ridiculous with their gay pride parades. What is the logic in that? If the left wishes to redefine the term "bigot" then that is their weak position and prerogative.

Bigots in The Villages? Sooo??? Still no law banning it. If you consider me a bigot, then don't associate with me, don't play golf with me, or pickleball with me, or bocciball with me. But, it is still a free country. And, accuse me of wearing a white sheet and hood to my face, be prepared to defend your position on the subject.....from the ground. Because I am not part of a radical group, such as the KKK, or the Wall St cretins, or Black lives matter, or even the Tea Party (which I agree with).

Guest 06-14-2016 05:15 AM

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Sorry, but there isn't a law against being a bigot, YET. I realize that Obie's AG is attempting to convince him to write an E.O. that stipulates a law against "hate speech." But, that will be shot down by the Supreme Court, if it happens, even a liberal Supreme Court.

Being a bigot is legal as long as it does not interfere on how someone is treated in the work place.

Is being a bigot an evil thing? The Pope and other religious leaders are bigots because they HATE sin. Muslims are bigots because they hate gays and infidels. Obama is a bigot because he hates Republicans and white folks. But, are they really bigots? To be a bigot, one must be INTOLERANT. Putting Muslims aside, many folks are tolerant but do not condone. I love my gay relatives and friends but do NOT condone their gay practice. I tolerate them because of that brotherly love. But, for a libtard to insist that you either welcome and embrace their sin or you are a bigot, makes them WHAT? Gays want the church to endorse their behavior when it is against almost EVERY religion in the world. If you suggest that homosexuality is not normal, then you are immediately considered a bigot. That is the only defense of the gay community. They wish to be take seriously and then they make themselves appear ridiculous with their gay pride parades. What is the logic in that? If the left wishes to redefine the term "bigot" then that is their weak position and prerogative.

Bigots in The Villages? Sooo??? Still no law banning it. If you consider me a bigot, then don't associate with me, don't play golf with me, or pickleball with me, or bocciball with me. But, it is still a free country. And, accuse me of wearing a white sheet and hood to my face, be prepared to defend your position on the subject.....from the ground. Because I am not part of a radical group, such as the KKK, or the Wall St cretins, or Black lives matter, or even the Tea Party (which I agree with).

President Obama is not a bigot - by your definition, he is not intolerant of Republicans and white people. Get a grip.

Back to the original post, the bigot everyone is referring to is clearly looking for attention, so probably the best way to discourage him/her is to ignore and not engage with the drivel he/she spouts. As far as meeting people like that in The Villages, they are everywhere in our society. I have personally met at least 2 people like that in TV. They're nice enough when you start talking with them, but involve alcohol or some other trigger, they go off on the racist/bigot rants and you see what you're dealing with.

Guest 06-14-2016 06:13 AM

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"Whereas 38% of Americans said gay and lesbian relations were morally acceptable in 2002, that number has risen to 63% today. And while 35% of Americans favored legalized same-sex marriage in 1999, 60% favor it today." I guess you are in the minority in your thinking according to this Gallop pole.

This is from the media BOMBARDING us with gay couples, mixed couples, and all kinds of nasties.

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" Gallop Pole " What kind of a pole is that --- for climbing or fishing ?

I think you meant " Gallup Poll " .

No, it's the pole he likes to suck. Freudian slip.

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The racial hierarchy, with White groups of European origin at the top and people of color at the bottom, serves important functions for society and for certain categories of people. It ensures, for example, that some people are available to do society's dirty work at low wages. The racial hierarchy has positive consequences for the status quo: It enables the powerful to retain their control and their advantages. Racial stratification also offers better occupational opportunities, income, and education to White people. These advantages constitute racial privilege (Eitzen et al., 2011:209).Chapter 8:* Racial & Ethnic Inequality

Don't bigots believe in racial hierarchy with them at the top?

Hierarchies form naturally due to ability. White europeans created a modern civilization...blacks are STILL living in mud and grass huts digging for roots and grubs.

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Bigotry does not have any structured or consistent rules . It is an individual belief system .

It's a BS word twisted by minority groups to make US seem like the weird ones...when it's THEM who are strange. Just because you refuse to tolerate mental sickness, it doesn't make you wrong or a "bigot".

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President Obama is not a bigot - by your definition, he is not intolerant of Republicans and white people. Get a grip.

Back to the original post, the bigot everyone is referring to is clearly looking for attention, so probably the best way to discourage him/her is to ignore and not engage with the drivel he/she spouts. As far as meeting people like that in The Villages, they are everywhere in our society. I have personally met at least 2 people like that in TV. They're nice enough when you start talking with them, but involve alcohol or some other trigger, they go off on the racist/bigot rants and you see what you're dealing with.

They're just being honest and have lost the political correctness. What about what they say is incorrect? Liberals always complain about what "we" say...but they can NEVER come back with a reasonable explanation of how we're wrong...we just ARE.

Guest 06-14-2016 06:39 AM

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President Obama is not a bigot - by your definition, he is not intolerant of Republicans and white people. Get a grip.

Back to the original post, the bigot everyone is referring to is clearly looking for attention, so probably the best way to discourage him/her is to ignore and not engage with the drivel he/she spouts. As far as meeting people like that in The Villages, they are everywhere in our society. I have personally met at least 2 people like that in TV. They're nice enough when you start talking with them, but involve alcohol or some other trigger, they go off on the racist/bigot rants and you see what you're dealing with.

That's what I said, if you read it all. I am sorry if my means of communicating my thoughts are not quite so intelligible or coherent. My suggestion was that anyone that does not like, condone or appreciates a group, is considered a bigot by the left. But, I also said that in order to be a bigot, there is a requirement of being intolerant. I'm sorry if I did not make my thought on the matter clear enough for some to make sense of it.

And I believe that I DO have a "grip" on it.

I guarantee that if I was to disparage Trump or berate the Republicans, there would be no one on here calling me a bigot. If I was to demean the church or Christianity, there would be no protest from the left, but there would be if I was to suggest a negative thought regarding the Muslim/Islamic faith.

A "bigot" is all in the eyes of the beholder and most of the beholders are on the left, in this case. I have never ever heard a conservative call anyone a "bigot." I have heard them call Obama a racist, and I have also. And I still believe it.


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