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Cedwards38 03-11-2017 08:01 AM

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Yes...the HUMAN branch.

The minorities don't pay their fair share, they're subsidized. They use $12,000 a year in healthcare costs yet contribute only $1000. That's a problem...a BIG problem. An unsustainable problem.



Because that is YOUR argument...that everyone should pay the same irregardless of actual cost.

Are you changing your position now and you DON'T want to subsidize others any more?

We can't afford to give everyone a high level of healthcare. There are TOO MANY in need and not enough "providers". At least 50 million in need of free healthcare. We're giving away $600,000,000,000 worth of healthcare coverage each year. And borrowing to do it.

No. I'm pointing out the selfish hypocrisy of your statement. I think most people got that.

dirtbanker 03-11-2017 08:07 AM

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No. I'm pointing out the selfish hypocrisy of your statement. I think most people got that.

I missed it...are you saying you disagree with Don's math?

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Don Baldwin 03-11-2017 08:25 AM

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No. I'm pointing out the selfish hypocrisy of your statement. I think most people got that.

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I missed it...are you saying you disagree with Don's math?

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She's saying I'm a selfish a$shole because I don't think I should be supporting almost half the population in one form or another.

She ignores the math. Women do that...they want and want...with no concept of cost and what it takes to make it happen. Because MEN take care of all that...MEN run things, make them work...women mostly shuffle papers.

wjboyer1 03-11-2017 12:43 PM

He wrote on Twitter early this Saturday, “We are making great progress with healthcare. ObamaCare is imploding and will only get worse. Republicans coming together to get job done!”


No, no, and no.

Republicans are not coming together to “get the job done” of “making great progress with healthcare.” Actually, what’s happening is that a powerful small group of Republican leaders are working feverishly to remove as many safeguards as possible from the healthcare system as quickly as possible.

Subsidies to ensure that poor people don’t die a preventable death due to lack of healthcare? Out the window! After all, these “coming together Republicans” have to protect the interests of their rich buddies before those of the poor, right?

With the Republican healthcare plan including massive tax cuts for the wealthy at the expense of the subsidized health care programs that serve the poor of the United States, it can hardly be said, Mr. President, that you’re making “great progress with healthcare.”

Don Baldwin 03-11-2017 10:26 PM

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He wrote on Twitter early this Saturday, “We are making great progress with healthcare. ObamaCare is imploding and will only get worse. Republicans coming together to get job done!”


No, no, and no.

Republicans are not coming together to “get the job done” of “making great progress with healthcare.” Actually, what’s happening is that a powerful small group of Republican leaders are working feverishly to remove as many safeguards as possible from the healthcare system as quickly as possible.

Subsidies to ensure that poor people don’t die a preventable death due to lack of healthcare? Out the window! After all, these “coming together Republicans” have to protect the interests of their rich buddies before those of the poor, right?

With the Republican healthcare plan including massive tax cuts for the wealthy at the expense of the subsidized health care programs that serve the poor of the United States, it can hardly be said, Mr. President, that you’re making “great progress with healthcare.”

You CANNOT provide $1000 a month equivalent healthcare to everyone when almost half the population don't contribute.

Labor Force Participation : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

Almost half the population relies on the other half. You DON'T see that in other 1st world countries that have universal healthcare...in those countries you have up to 90% of the population being productive and contributing.

It works with whites and white countries...it doesn't work with brown people and brown countries. It just doesn't...never has.

wjboyer1 03-12-2017 12:24 AM

racism is the ignorant person's excuse
 
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You CANNOT provide $1000 a month equivalent healthcare to everyone when almost half the population don't contribute.

Labor Force Participation : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics

Almost half the population relies on the other half. You DON'T see that in other 1st world countries that have universal healthcare...in those countries you have up to 90% of the population being productive and contributing.

It works with whites and white countries...it doesn't work with brown people and brown countries. It just doesn't...never has.

You never cease in blaming non-whites for everything and the cause of problems, and the failure of solutions....don't you ever quit? Money is green, health care is needed by all of us, and universal health care has been shown to be successful in MANY countries and the US has resisted it because the pharmaceutical companies have "bought" Congress.....race has NOTHING TO DO WITH IT....only in your weak and perverted mind (and I am being generous with that statement giving you some sort of mind)

Don Baldwin 03-12-2017 05:33 AM

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You never cease in blaming non-whites for everything and the cause of problems, and the failure of solutions....don't you ever quit? Money is green, health care is needed by all of us, and universal health care has been shown to be successful in MANY countries and the US has resisted it because the pharmaceutical companies have "bought" Congress.....race has NOTHING TO DO WITH IT....only in your weak and perverted mind (and I am being generous with that statement giving you some sort of mind)

When they ARE to blame...I blame them.

WHITE countries...universal healthcare has been successful in WHITE countries. Show me ANY black/hispanic country with free healthcare for everyone that is successful...just one. The countries you say are successful...are all "white" countries...European, North American, Australia...NONE in Africa, none in S America.

Race has EVERYTHING to do with it...make a list of your "successful universal healthcare countries"...what do they ALL have in common? They're 1st world...and they're a majority WHITE.

I'm correct...YOU refuse to accept the truth...we are NOT the same species. We're HALF minorities now and as their numbers have risen and white numbers fallen...America has gone from #1 to #25.

wjboyer1 03-12-2017 10:48 AM

Countries with universal health care and date instituted
 
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When they ARE to blame...I blame them.

WHITE countries...universal healthcare has been successful in WHITE countries. Show me ANY black/hispanic country with free healthcare for everyone that is successful...just one. The countries you say are successful...are all "white" countries...European, North American, Australia...NONE in Africa, none in S America.

Race has EVERYTHING to do with it...make a list of your "successful universal healthcare countries"...what do they ALL have in common? They're 1st world...and they're a majority WHITE.

I'm correct...YOU refuse to accept the truth...we are NOT the same species. We're HALF minorities now and as their numbers have risen and white numbers fallen...America has gone from #1 to #25.

Your racist rant is pathetic.

Country Start Date of Universal Health Care System Type
Click links for more source material on each country’s health care system.
Norway 1912
New Zealand 1938
Japan 1938
Germany 1941
Belgium 1945
United Kingdom 1948
Kuwait 1950
Sweden 1955
Bahrain 1957
Brunei 1958
Canada 1966
Netherlands 1966
Austria 1967
United Arab Emirates 1971
Finland 1972
Slovenia 1972
Denmark 1973
Luxembourg 1973
France 1974
Australia 1975
Ireland 1977
Italy 1978
Portugal 1979
Cyprus 1980
Greece 1983 I
Spain 1986
South Korea 1988
Iceland 1990
Hong Kong 1993
Singapore 1993
Switzerland 1994
Israel 1995

Don Baldwin 03-12-2017 11:09 AM

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Your racist rant is pathetic.

Country Start Date of Universal Health Care System Type
Click links for more source material on each country’s health care system.
Norway 1912
New Zealand 1938
Japan 1938
Germany 1941
Belgium 1945
United Kingdom 1948
Kuwait 1950
Sweden 1955
Bahrain 1957
Brunei 1958
Canada 1966
Netherlands 1966
Austria 1967
United Arab Emirates 1971
Finland 1972
Slovenia 1972
Denmark 1973
Luxembourg 1973
France 1974
Australia 1975
Ireland 1977
Italy 1978
Portugal 1979
Cyprus 1980
Greece 1983 I
Spain 1986
South Korea 1988
Iceland 1990
Hong Kong 1993
Singapore 1993
Switzerland 1994
Israel 1995

Well...where are the S American and African countries? The "brown" countries? Middle Easterners are dark skinned...but they're not BLACK...they're not Negroid.

That list is ALL White and Asian...didn't I say that?

I didn't specifically mention Asian's...You know what I meant, brown being Africa/Hispanic. The Asian countries are ALL "westernized"...very "white" acting.

24 countries on that list are "white".
4 Middle Eastern
4 Asian

I said:
"Race has EVERYTHING to do with it...make a list of your "successful universal healthcare countries"...what do they ALL have in common? They're 1st world...and they're a majority WHITE."

I wasn't wrong. I don't speak unless/until I can back it up. I don't THINK a certain way unless/until I can back it up.

cologal 03-12-2017 11:48 AM

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Bye Bye Obammacare, Good riddance!! My healthcare went from $750 a month to $1300 a month...I don't want to provide healthcare for the lazy!!

Who are the Lazy?

dirtbanker 03-12-2017 12:20 PM

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Who are the Lazy?

Oh come on you know who they are...

The ones that sleep till noon, walk back and forth to the cigarette smoke shelter wearing thier pajamas all day long (can't smoke in federal owned buildings), have developed a sense of entitlement due to never having to work to support thier families or themselves. Have no intentions of ever moving out.

And let's not forget the wackadoodles that live for a certain Wednesday of the month when the funds are transferred to thier account. Now they can live large on someone else's dime, eating out at expensive places like the Bonefish Grill. They have to curb the spending a little as the weeks go by, and then the funds show up again.



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cologal 03-12-2017 01:04 PM

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Oh come on you know who they are...

The ones that sleep till noon, walk back and forth to the cigarette smoke shelter wearing thier pajamas all day long (can't smoke in federal owned buildings), have developed a sense of entitlement due to never having to work to support thier families or themselves. Have no intentions of ever moving out.

And let's not forget the wackadoodles that live for a certain Wednesday of the month when the funds are transferred to thier account. Now they can live large on someone else's dime, eating out at expensive places like the Bonefish Grill. They have to curb the spending a little as the weeks go by, and then the funds show up again.



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There is a problem with your characterization...There will always be but people who game the system! Its human nature. I don't think you can use an EBT card at Bonefish Grill.

As we have discussed before welfare should NOT be provided for LIFE and the Disability Program needs a complete revamping. Whole families live their lifetime on disability.

However, I cannot see people who have lost their jobs for profit margins in the name of productivity gains kicked to the curb, So I agree to pay for them until they can get on their feet! Proudly COPUFF

Don Baldwin 03-12-2017 01:28 PM

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There is a problem with your characterization...There will always be but people who game the system! Its human nature. I don't think you can use an EBT card at Bonefish Grill.

As we have discussed before welfare should NOT be provided for LIFE and the Disability Program needs a complete revamping. Whole families live their lifetime on disability.

However, I cannot see people who have lost their jobs for profit margins in the name of productivity gains kicked to the curb, So I agree to pay for them until they can get on their feet! Proudly COPUFF

WHAT do you do with them? Throw them on the street? THAT will look real good on the news...!!! They have us by the balls...and they know it...we can do NOTHING to "correct" or "discipline" them unless they've broken a serious law.

dillywho 03-12-2017 02:04 PM

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There is a problem with your characterization...There will always be but people who game the system! Its human nature. I don't think you can use an EBT card at Bonefish Grill.

As we have discussed before welfare should NOT be provided for LIFE and the Disability Program needs a complete revamping. Whole families live their lifetime on disability.

However, I cannot see people who have lost their jobs for profit margins in the name of productivity gains kicked to the curb, So I agree to pay for them until they can get on their feet! Proudly COPUFF

:agree:

cologal 03-12-2017 02:26 PM

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WHAT do you do with them? Throw them on the street? THAT will look real good on the news...!!! They have us by the balls...and they know it...we can do NOTHING to "correct" or "discipline" them unless they've broken a serious law.

The idea is to retrain them for work or put them to work in local communities doing community services.

We also shouldn't be providing them with Section 8 housing, free cable TV and a free phone.

Don Baldwin 03-13-2017 06:11 AM

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The idea is to retrain them for work or put them to work in local communities doing community services.

We also shouldn't be providing them with Section 8 housing, free cable TV and a free phone.

"Retrain" them? They never knew how to do anything in the first place. Most are untrainable. What "jobs" there are no jobs in the inner city slums.

"Put them to work"...don't you know...that's SLAVERY...we can't FORCE a minority to do anything. That's why they sit at home, drinking all day, as we support their every need.

Don't you think in the 150 years since they've been "free" people haven't looked at the black part of town and said..."can't we get them to clean this place up"?

dave harris 03-13-2017 06:21 AM

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"Retrain" them? They never knew how to do anything in the first place. Most are untrainable. What "jobs" there are no jobs in the inner city slums.

"Put them to work"...don't you know...that's SLAVERY...we can't FORCE a minority to do anything. That's why they sit at home, drinking all day, as we support their every need.

Don't you think in the 150 years since they've been "free" people haven't looked at the black part of town and said..."can't we get them to clean this place up"?

First and third paragraph, did you ever think as to why this has happened? Second paragraph, they are put to work in some states.

dirtbanker 03-13-2017 07:10 AM

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There is a problem with your characterization...There will always be but people who game the system! Its human nature. I don't think you can use an EBT card at Bonefish Grill.

As we have discussed before welfare should NOT be provided for LIFE and the Disability Program needs a complete revamping. Whole families live their lifetime on disability.

However, I cannot see people who have lost their jobs for profit margins in the name of productivity gains kicked to the curb, So I agree to pay for them until they can get on their feet! Proudly COPUFF

My characterization is based on real life experience, not something someone else told me or some whimsical desire of mine...

I will agree with you there will always be people "gaming the system" it is in THEIR nature (not mine or everyone's nature). Unfortunately it seems those that have it in their nature are out numbering those that do not (52% of this country is receiving benefits). There are over 9 million people living in HUD properties...hardly a success story.
Assisted Housing: National and Local | HUD USER

The Wackadoodles do not have an EBT card, they get the SSD funds transferred direct to their bank accounts. If their birthday was in the first 7 days of the month they were born, the funds arrive on the first Wednesday (if their birthday was the 17th of the month the funds arrive on the 3rd Wednesday of the month). Mental health problems are the most common reason they file for SSD. Leading Causes of Disability

"Work or Starve" is the only answer to this epidemic. They have developed a strong sense of entitlement over the years, there will be violence and lives lost when they end the assistance...and it will have to end, as 48% should not have to support the 52% (and growing) forever...

Don Baldwin 03-13-2017 01:47 PM

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My characterization is based on real life experience, not something someone else told me or some whimsical desire of mine...

I will agree with you there will always be people "gaming the system" it is in THEIR nature (not mine or everyone's nature). Unfortunately it seems those that have it in their nature are out numbering those that do not (52% of this country is receiving benefits). There are over 9 million people living in HUD properties...hardly a success story.
Assisted Housing: National and Local | HUD USER

The Wackadoodles do not have an EBT card, they get the SSD funds transferred direct to their bank accounts. If their birthday was in the first 7 days of the month they were born, the funds arrive on the first Wednesday (if their birthday was the 17th of the month the funds arrive on the 3rd Wednesday of the month). Mental health problems are the most common reason they file for SSD. Leading Causes of Disability

"Work or Starve" is the only answer to this epidemic. They have developed a strong sense of entitlement over the years, there will be violence and lives lost when they end the assistance...and it will have to end, as 48% should not have to support the 52% (and growing) forever...

But they're black...it's SLAVERY to make them work!

They borrow the welfare money now...but yes, when it stops...there WILL be a major chimpout.

wjboyer1 03-13-2017 11:28 PM

Wall Street Journal Agrees
 
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Not for a minute do I believe it will, but if the Republican's plan results in just as many American citizens being covered and slows the rise of healthcare costs that have been rising for three decades now...then I'm all for it.

What I predict will happen though, is that premiums will actually increase at a greater rate than they have, given that preexisting conditions still have to be covered...but there is now no mandate that everyone has to participate to offset the higher risk pools.

How can they not? :oops:

I also predict that the bigger mess this creates compared to the ACA, will come back to haunt the Repub's...since they now own it. :D

It should be interesting to watch. :popcorn:

Better financial minds than ours agree....Attachment 66737

wjboyer1 03-14-2017 05:04 PM

A True Trump supporter because....
 
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There is no "ignorance" on my part at all...the ignorance is all yours young lady.

90% of Canadians are white...they have jobs and they contribute EQUALLY to the tax system that pays for healthcare for all...agreed? Or do you deny the census numbers? The welfare numbers? Go look for yourself...I'll wait.

In America...49% are white and the REST are minorities...in America half the population TAKES from the government, 50 million are on food stamps, millions are in public housing, section 8 housing. Our "poor" population is larger than Canada's total population of 35 million. We have states with almost that kind of population.

As the WHITE population declines...EVERYTHING declines with it. Health, safety, happiness...compare the villages, 99% white...to ANYWHERE that is "diverse".

WHITES do NOT receive more welfare benefits than anyone else. That is a LIE. Hispanics are counted as WHITE. Go down to the welfare office...today...if you're afraid to go in because of the neighborhood...park and watch WHO goes in...minority women...they're ALL minority women...with a sprinkling of white girls with black kids.

You are being fooled...we are NOT the same. We're NOT the same species. We're as different as wolves and your cockapoo. We don't belong together any more than we should be living with any of the other apes. They are apes that can speak...the "missing link". Uncomfortable...but true nonetheless.

The proof is EVERYWHERE. Where ARE they EVER successful? Where? Name ONE place YOU would move to that is a majority black. A place you'd want your granddaughter to live. There are NONE...not one.

We are NOT the same.

You are probably one of this group:Attachment 66762

Don Baldwin 03-14-2017 07:23 PM

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You are probably one of this group:Attachment 66762

And once again...an insult...but not ONE word to support your side. You disagree...just because I guess.

I didn't vote for Trump, he'll be just like Obama...borrow and spend. The new boss will be quite similar to the old boss. You watch. He'll do a few meaningless social issue things to keep the public entertained and reasonably happy...but the big things will chug along. And in 30 years, we'll be a majority Hispanic and none of it will matter any more because the country will be a sh!thole. Mexico II.

From #1 to #25 because whites have gone from 90% to 49%.

that picture is a complete fake...the picture I posted earlier of the black gang members...that was real...they exist...your picture is a fantasy.

wjboyer1 03-15-2017 08:21 AM

Racism is a smoke screen
 
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And once again...an insult...but not ONE word to support your side. You disagree...just because I guess.

I didn't vote for Trump, he'll be just like Obama...borrow and spend. The new boss will be quite similar to the old boss. You watch. He'll do a few meaningless social issue things to keep the public entertained and reasonably happy...but the big things will chug along. And in 30 years, we'll be a majority Hispanic and none of it will matter any more because the country will be a sh!thole. Mexico II.

From #1 to #25 because whites have gone from 90% to 49%.

that picture is a complete fake...the picture I posted earlier of the black gang members...that was real...they exist...your picture is a fantasy.

The last leader who advocated for a "white" society albeit "Aryan Race" was Hitler. Looks like you have joined ranks

Don Baldwin 03-15-2017 09:16 AM

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The last leader who advocated for a "white" society albeit "Aryan Race" was Hitler. Looks like you have joined ranks

OK...you added a title..."Racism is a smoke screen"

Back it up...prove it...list WHY they are equal...the same as us...and race doesn't matter.

I figured out they're inferior all by myself.

Since Hitler happened to be right and rallied for something I am too...we're joining ranks? Really Boyer? Really? I don't want them dead...I just want want them gone. Borrow $1 trillion to send them back if that's what it takes...they cost us more than that much every year in welfare.

Funny...I did a Google search and it came up opposite of what I expected...

leaders advocating white people - Google Search



Portland ‘Black Lives Matter’ leader OPENLY advocates for MURDER of police [VIDEO] – The Right Scoop

Black Lives Matter Leader: White People Are ‘Sub-Human', Blacks Can Kill All Whites If They Had The Power To

Black Lives Matter protest leader calls for racial segregation during demonstration | Daily Mail Online

Black Activists Call for Lynching and Hanging of White People and Cops

black-lives-matter-leader-white-people-are-sub-human

Did you know they think so highly of you? Did you know they were as delusional as women? Well...because most of them ARE women.

This search is just as bad...

leaders+advocating+white+race

Nah...they're not racist...


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