Their name calling play book does not allow for free reading or individual interpretation or thinking.

Parrot politics only allowed.

Have you noticed that the "truth"spoken by Donald Trump, Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh et al is like kriptonite to liberals.

Again Trump's presence in this line up of presidential candidates is the wild card we need. Now we have someone who will not hold back. I like that he isn't a professional politicians and I am glad he is outing all of the hypocrisy being generated by candidates on both sides. So far Donald Trump and Carly Fiorina have my attention.

The Republican establishment best let the best man/woman win and not interfere as they did with Mitt Romney who in my view was the most suitable candidate in 2012.

Personal Best Regards:

Dear Guest: I agree. In fact I am adamant that every candidate running should be required to lay open all the finances, emails accounting books of organization they control and influence people who would gain monetarily from your election as president. We should have full disclosure. total transparency So Hillary what's up with the Clinton Charitable Foundation? where are all your e-mails in connection with Benghazi and your years at the State Department? Do you still believe a reset with Russia is a good idea or has that kind of sour once you sold Putin that American uranium mine? As Secretary of State you traveled the equivalent of 4 times around the globe. Name one accomplishment. How has Bill manage to make so much money speaking around the world? you deny a quid pro quo. Please speak to it. In fact please speak the excessive nodding is beginning to make you look like a bubble head doll

Personal Best Regards:

Dear Guest:

Do you believe Mrs. Clinton is actually reading your post with questions addressed to her? Just a clue, dude, she isn't! The NSA might be reading your posts but Mrs. Clinton is not.

Semper Fi

The "truth" spoken by Trump, Coulter, and Limbaugh is all venom filled racist crap. Yes, venom filled racist crap is like kryptonite to liberals. We are totally against venom filled racism. What about you folks on the reactionary fringe?

I am glad to see you said that "in your view" Romney was the most suitable candidate. You may have noticed by now that the majority of American voters did not agree with you.

Semper Fi

Bye-Bye Trump
 

From someone who has probably never listened to any of them with a truly open mind.

Actually, friend, I used to listen to Coulter on my way to work on a regular basis. I also do read her columns. Coulter tries to be funny in a sarcastic way but is really a mean spirited writer. I hope that is just her persona and that she is a more decent person.

Trump only from the television show. And from the racist statement he made concerning Mexicans.

Limbaugh from a book of his and the horrible things he spoke of with the young lady and birth control.

Semper Fi

1. Your spite filled comments always tend to bring this forum to its knees, and I must assume it is your intent, so congratulations.

2. NOBODY agrees with any, on either side, of the words spoken by their folks who are speaking out. I certainly am not even aware of most of what any of them even say, HOWEVER, I must tell you that i do in fact read both sides and no matter their politics, I do consider what they say.

3. You just cannot use the terms you use over and over and over again. It appears that anyone who does not come around to your way of thinking is a racist, which even you know is not true, but it is the single one thing you can say. NEVER do I see factual replies to any posts; simply call them a racist or whatever other hateful term is rolling off your tongue at the time.

4. The post that included the post using Ann Coulters comments also had TWO links to US Government websites which was NEVER commented on. AND, I posted it and never alluded to anything except her quote on which she is 100 PERCENT correct. NOBODY HAS SET OUT TO DISPROVE HIM. THEY JUST SIMPLY CALL HIM NAMES.

5. I do think that Trump over does it but he raises valid questions that need to be discussed and cannot be dismissed with sophmoric name calling, but if you are against discussing facts as presented by your government and need to stick with nothing but name calling, then that is you.....how you define yourself.

I address this to you as you seem to have taken the mantle of all great decider of what it in everyones heart, so let me ask this....if someone said this..would you call them a racist....

" “You cannot go to a 7-11 or a Dunkin Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I’m not joking!”

That was our Vice President

or....

"“White folks was in the caves while we [blacks] was building empires … We built pyramids before Donald Trump ever knew what architecture was … we taught philosophy and astrology and mathematics before Socrates and them Greek homos ever got around to it.”

That was Al Sharpton

or...

"Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) apologized today for referring to President Barack Obama as "light skinned" and "with no Negro dialect" in private conversations during the 2008 presidential campaign".



Of course that was the democratic leader of the Senate.

Are these comments fine and dandy for some reason that escapes me ?

And this from the former President and husband of the Democratic front runner...


referring to our current President Obama....in speaking to Ted Kennedy

"“A few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee,”

No problem with that ?

And of course our Vice President continues in speaking of our President...

"“I mean you’ve got the first sort of mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and nice-looking guy.”

This stuff seems to pass you by and thus my assumption is you don't give a rats behind about racial justice...you simply call everyone a racist because for some reason it is the "in" thing to do with liberals today, which is amazing....the history of the liberal movement and the Democratic party is full of racist acts and statements.

Again, just to help the anointed one who feels calling any Republican a white sheet racist or some such thing, just a few things he may not know but should if he is that involved and sensitive to race. Ever notice that you do not hear Republicans call other people racists or bigots much....well...

1. The Republican Party was founded primarily to oppose slavery, and Republicans eventually abolished slavery. The Democratic Party fought them and tried to maintain and expand slavery. The 13th Amendment, abolishing slavery, passed in 1865 with 100% Republican support but only 23% Democrat support in congress.

2. During the Civil War era, the "Radical Republicans" were given that name because they wanted to not only end slavery but also to endow the freed slaves with full citizenship, equality, and rights.

3. The Ku Klux Klan was originally and primarily an arm of the Southern Democratic Party. Its mission was to terrorize freed slaves and "ni**er-loving" (their words) Republicans who sympathized with them.

4. n the 1950s, President Eisenhower, a Republican, integrated the US military and promoted civil rights for minorities. Eisenhower pushed through the Civil Rights Act of 1957. One of Eisenhower's primary political opponents on civil rights prior to 1957 was none other than Lyndon Johnson, then the Democratic Senate Majority Leader. LBJ had voted the straight segregationist line until he changed his position and supported the 1957 Act.

5. The historic Civil Rights Act of 1964 was supported by a higher percentage of Republicans than Democrats in both houses of Congress. In the House, 80 percent of the Republicans and 63 percent of the Democrats voted in favor. In the Senate, 82 percent of the Republicans and 69 percent of the Democrats voted for it.

6. Contrary to popular misconception, the parties never "switched" on racism. The Democrats just switched from overt racism to a subversive strategy of getting blacks as dependent as possible on government to secure their votes. At the same time, they began a cynical smear campaign to label anyone who opposes their devious strategy as greedy racists.


A Short History of Democrats, Republicans, and Racism


I have told this story before and it is true as true can be. I had a high position with the Democratic party in the early 70's on a state level. I left the party when I realized what they were doing to the blacks, and how they were being used.

I am very sensitive to this because I lived it and am just sick of hearing all this stuff from people who do not know what they are talking about, and sadly do not even care that they do not know.

Point is, get off your high horse. Alinsky taught you well. Attack personally and do not stop.

Your points 1-5 are absolutely right.
You do seem to be doing a fair share of attacking personally.
I am not a Democrat. I am a Progressive. I only had one seminar under Saul Alinski. No matter what you think of his political views and methods, he was a brilliant political scientist.
Take care. :beer3:

You can call it "attacking personally", however I have been on the other end so many times on here....I have been called a racist so many times, and not on issues even remotely connected with racial issues.

I am just sick of the tired old racist call. Not sure how I made it personal...never mentioned names although most on here know who he/they are who use that slander kind of language. They do not feel it is personal.

I am just tired of it and will not tolerate that racist bigot call any longer. People on here deserve better than to be called names simply because they do not agree with certain people

I apologize to anyone who reads and feels I was being personal. Just understand how tired I, maybe nobody else, but I am tired of that term being used to conceal ignorance and laziness in not wanting to actually learn anything or discuss on a mature level.

You call using other people's money and abusing bankruptcy law, leaving them holding the bag as "doing it by himself without handouts"? Role model for younger people......seriously? Puleeeeez get all your right wing loonies to nominate that pompous sleaze bag blow hard, assuring a Democrat landslide in the general.

Personal Best Regards:

What the heck are you talking about? Take your meds.

And by the way, NUMBER 6 IS THE MOST CORRECT OF THEM ALL.

Do a bit of reading and learn....I lived it....it is true and denying that truth which if you do any reading at all, can be verified, is your loss.

The Democratic party did not suddenly become so equal rights concerned just over night in the mid 60's. I give them credit...they were and continue to be smart about it. They recognized an opportunity and jumped on it.

I am for sure not a fan of Trump but notice that much of what you attack him for applies equally to the leading democratic candidate, except I am not aware of any bankruptcy involved. But she certainly has used a lot of people and earlier someone mentioned his character which is fuzzy I agree, but hey....it applies even more to the democratic candidate so at best it is a draw on the points you feel are important.

I only like Trump because he will force discussion and I hope the media will do their job and allow or insist that conversation cross the aisle.

Gotta love it. Some have a limited vocabulary. You are either a tea partier, a racist, a bigot or carrying a white sheet...all you gotta do is disagree. Then they add the "take your meds". Thanks for the suggestion.

I posted THREE links for discussion concerning problems with immigrants coming in our southern border.

A poster IGNORED TOTALLY the first two which were links to government sites, and focused instead on a Coulter article only linked as I explained because she made a very valid point about the media coverage.

No need to waste any time on Trump. He will not be the Republican candidate. No chance at all.

Concentrating on Scott Walker and what he can do for the Republican party and how he can effectively get the economy back on track and keep the country safe is the priority now.

He will be the candidate and everyone should get behind him with volunteerism and money to get him over the 270 electoral votes.

Minor Quibbles
 

I have a couple of minor quibbles with your post, which I agree with in the main.

1. Your statement that the Republican party was created to end slavery is a bit overblown. In fact, in a letter to newspaperman Horace Greeley, President Lincoln stated that his sole purpose was to maintain the Union and that if that could be done without freeing any slaves, he was willing to do that. He also felt that after the slaves were freed they should be deported to some other country. He did not envision a racially integrated nation.

2. You neglected to mention that the 14th Amendment, granting citizenship to former slaves, passed with 94% Republican support and 0% (Zero) Democrat support.

3. When the Klan was organized, Democrat and former Confederate General Nathan Bedford Forrest became Grand Wizard, claiming to be the Klan's national leader. The Klan murdered not only freed slaves but also Republicans in the South.

4. The order to racially integrate the military was made by President Truman, not President Eisenhower. It was done on July 26, 1948, by Executive Order 9981. What Eisenhower did do was use the 101st Airborne to enforce court orders to integrate Arkansas public schools.

5. The historic Civil Rights Act of 1964 would not have passed had it not been for manipulation of the rules in the Senate by Republican Leader Mike Mansfield who rushed the bill to the floor for a vote. When President Johnson signed the bill into law he gave the first Ceremonial Pen to Mansfield. He later explained to his daughter Lynda that he did this because the bill would not have passed without the Republicans. She mentioned it in a speech at the LBJ ranch a few years ago.

6. The ludicrous claim that the parties have "switched" on racism is claimed by Democrats who are ashamed of their party's record. They claim that the early Republicans were "liberal" and now the Democrats are "liberal" so there must have been a switch. Perhaps they should research the term "Dixiecrats."

I share the frustration of "Guest" regarding the general ignorance of our history throughout the country.

Can you tell us the demographic makeup of the Republican party? What percentage of the African American vote did Romney receive and what percentage of the woman vote did Romney receive? What percentage of the Republican party are minorities?

Until the voters perceive the Republicans as a party of inclusion :beer3:, they are not going to have another President.

That is one opinion!

Before you talk about abusing bankruptcy laws, you should go back and examine what happened under the current administration with the GM bankruptcy. Calling people names again, very sad.

would Putin be happy with Trump?
 

Putin is very happy with President Obama. I have a strong feeling that Putin would not be happy at all having Trump for our president.

We all know that blacks vote for democrats, often to their own detriment. I don't see this changing.

You do not read well.

It has been said on a number of posts that the black votes are democratic.

They went after them with an opportunity. The Republicans felt comfortable with that vote because the Democrats were the anti black party.

The democrats deserve a POLITICAL "good job" because they seized an opportunity but have used the US government to maintain that vote.

The manipulation of that single voting block has really hurt this country in a big way.

Any discipline that, such as "policital science", that has to put the word "science" in it's name always creates doubt in my mind as to whether it is really a science. Regardless, Alinski's ideas only work with a dumb electorate, which is what we essentially have. In that regard, I guess you could say he is brilliant for recognizing that most people are dumb.

Thanks for your post.

I had forgotten about Mike Mansfield's involvement in the civil rights passage.

I have calmed down a bit, but am just got weary of these uneducated, history disadvantaged people who post on here. I am weary of the posts claiming how Democrats are the saviors of the disadvantaged, which is ludicrious and so very untrue. I am weary of the calls of racism against all Republicans when the Democratic party was the poster children for racism until the Republican party was able to pass the civil rights bill.

I am also weary of the posters that are just intellectually unable to respond to others and have an discussion, and show their true character with the calls of "racists", "bigots" and references to white sheets (which their political party invented).

Thanks again for your post

Sounds like you need some sleep.

Thank you for your concern, but I am well rested.

Need to be...will seem like my wife and I are having a class reunion this weekend. A number of college classmates stopping by, so sleep may be at a premium this weekend.

Trump's Miss USA show will be done by a cable network called Reelz. What kind of viewership will that get?

Anyhow, I am glad to see all those wonderful young ladies will not have binged and purged all those years for nothing.

Good going, Reelz!

Mansfield was a Democrat so that story does not make sense. It is true that without the GOP votes the Civil rights bill would have failed. That is because a large number of Democrat senators were Dixiecrats and many later left the Dem party and joined the GOP. The Dirksens and Rockefellers of the 1960 GOP would no longer be welcome in the modern party, just as the Thurmonds and Wallaces would no longer be welcome in the Dem party of today.

Much of what you say is true, but this conversation on this forum on this day alluded to the "holier than thou" liberal Democratic posters alluding to, implying, and actually attacking anyone not a Democrat as a racist,bigot, white sheet carrying person,

The intent was to finally call to their attention that they, the liberal movement, and the Democratic Party were in fact the owners of racism, began much if it and yet act as if they are the chosen ones.

If you know history, then you are aware of the racist, bigoted roots of their movement. They condemn an entire party with their UN educated posts.

This entire conversation was rooted in that premise.

Applauding the Democratic Party for smart politics in the 60's and 70's in how they manipulated the minority vote is in line, but to ignore the fact that they did and still do manipulate that vote , now to the detriment of our country, is just plain not paying attention

I do not know where I read this and cannot enclose in quotes, but the thought is, to me, spot on, recently.

This involves all the name calling and labeling that takes place on here and other places...

While claiming to embrace individuality, the central idea of liberalism is actually groupthink. If you disagree, you are a fool and in need to be re educated or deserving of ridicule. Opposition should not be listened to and discussed in an open forum, but mocked. In other words, liberalism is what it claims to dislike: Forced conformity.

My apologies to the author, but as I read on here, this becomes so clear.

I suppose that now "Star Trek" will now totally disappear from our tv' and join "Dukes Of Hazard"


"George Takei has come under fire this week for calling Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas a “clown in George Takei has come under fire this week for calling Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas a “clown in blackface” over the judge's stance on marriage equality. However, the “Star Trek” actor insists that his comment was not racially motivated” over the judge's stance on marriage equality."

George Takei Calls Justice Clarence Thomas A 'Clown In Blackface' Over Marriage Equality Dissent

Well, there is no doubt about it. Clarence Thomas IS a clown. I would just go along with that and leave the second part out. That wasn't appropriate.

Trump no 2. (Out of 14).

"Not appropriate" ?

Not racist ? Not bigoted ? Not a white sheet Tea Partier ?

Hmmmmm...guess it depends on the target

This is what happens to your poll numbers in the GOP primary when you insult immigrants | Eclectablog


Only in the republican party do you zoom to the top of the heap by insulting immigrants, calling them rapists and other insults. The louder the argle-gargle, the higher he'll rise. Happy days are here again.

iNCREDIBLE.

4th of July weekend starting with terror threats
Negotiations with Iran on going
ISIS continues to kill at will
Greece is broke

And the only thing on cable news is DONALD TRUMP, and one comment on immigration, yet to be proven untrue by the way.

He must be getting inside someones head because he is not going to get the nomination yet that is all we hear about.

Incredible, can't wait to discuss Hillary Clinton and..

Her money
Her character
Her emails
Her record as Secy of State