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California can enact of travel ban but President Trump's travel ban to protect American citizens is un-American, racist, dictatorial and un-Constitutional . Progressives, you got to love them


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California travel ban on Kansas affecting KU basketball; LGBT rights group seeks repeal of ‘religious freedom’ law

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By Peter Hancock

February 3, 2017

Topeka — There will be no Jayhawk basketball games with the University of California anytime soon, largely due to a law Kansas enacted last year that the state of California has said discriminates against the LGBT community.

University of Kansas officials confirmed Friday that athletic teams from public colleges and universities in California are no longer allowed to travel to schools in Kansas because of a "religious freedom" law in Kansas that says campus student groups here can discriminate in their membership against people who do not share the group's religious beliefs or practices.

That includes religious groups that ban gay students from joining due to the group's religious beliefs.

KU Athletics spokesman Jim Marchiony said KU had been in preliminary talks with the University of California-Berkeley to schedule a series of "home-and-home" games. But a new law in California that took effect Jan. 1 now prohibits that.

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California travel ban on Kansas affecting KU basketball; LGBT rights group seeks repeal of ‘religious freedom’ law

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By Peter Hancock

February 3, 2017

Topeka — There will be no Jayhawk basketball games with the University of California anytime soon, largely due to a law Kansas enacted last year that the state of California has said discriminates against the LGBT community.

University of Kansas officials confirmed Friday that athletic teams from public colleges and universities in California are no longer allowed to travel to schools in Kansas because of a "religious freedom" law in Kansas that says campus student groups here can discriminate in their membership against people who do not share the group's religious beliefs or practices.

That includes religious groups that ban gay students from joining due to the group's religious beliefs.

KU Athletics spokesman Jim Marchiony said KU had been in preliminary talks with the University of California-Berkeley to schedule a series of "home-and-home" games. But a new law in California that took effect Jan. 1 now prohibits that.

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This means that U of CA Berkeley teams will not go to Kansas to play. More of a boycott by that school and maybe others because of some gay rights thing. Not really a ban like Trump's.
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California's law does not ban anyone from Kansas, including Kansas teams, from entering California. It prevents California state universities and colleges from traveling to and playing against a Kansas school that is discriminatory. Kansas is trying to force gays back into the closet. California has said it wants no part of this and will not condone this type of treatment. Personally, I'm proud that my state has taken this action.

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California's law does not ban anyone from Kansas, including Kansas teams, from entering California. It prevents California state universities and colleges from traveling to and playing against a Kansas school that is discriminatory. Kansas is trying to force gays back into the closet. California has said it wants no part of this and will not condone this type of treatment. Personally, I'm proud that my state has taken this action.

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So it is broader than I thought. I am all for gay rights. Should be determined school- by- Kansas school.
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California travel ban on Kansas affecting KU basketball; LGBT rights group seeks repeal of ‘religious freedom’ law

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By Peter Hancock

February 3, 2017

Topeka — There will be no Jayhawk basketball games with the University of California anytime soon, largely due to a law Kansas enacted last year that the state of California has said discriminates against the LGBT community.

University of Kansas officials confirmed Friday that athletic teams from public colleges and universities in California are no longer allowed to travel to schools in Kansas because of a "religious freedom" law in Kansas that says campus student groups here can discriminate in their membership against people who do not share the group's religious beliefs or practices.

That includes religious groups that ban gay students from joining due to the group's religious beliefs.

KU Athletics spokesman Jim Marchiony said KU had been in preliminary talks with the University of California-Berkeley to schedule a series of "home-and-home" games. But a new law in California that took effect Jan. 1 now prohibits that.

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Mayor Murray bans official travel to North Carolina because of anti-gay law.

The (Washington DC's) city’s mayor, Democrat Muriel Bowser, has already banned city travel to North Carolina because of a new law that excludes LGBT people from protections against discrimination.

Several states are actively demonstrating their opposition to the law Mississippi passed on Tuesday which discriminates against the LGBT community.

Vermont, Washington state and New York‘s governors all banned official state-funded or sponsored travel to Mississippi on Tuesday.

North Carolina's Anti-LGBT Law Has Cost the State More Than $560 Million So Far: Sporting events move elsewhere: $245.6 million. The first and largest loss was the NBA All-Star Game, which would have had a roughly $100 million economic impact in the Charlotte area. Next was the NCAA, which pulled seven national championship events from North Carolina, including the first and second rounds of the men's basketball tournament. NCAA losses include $16.1 million to the city of Greensboro and $2 million to Cary. The Atlantic Coast Conference removed its championship games from the state, including Charlotte's football final, which would have brought the city $32.4 million, and Durham's baseball tournament, representing $5.2 million in lost revenue. WRAL estimated that total losses resulting from ACC and NCAA cancellations were $90 million. But that's not all: The Central Intercollegiate Athletic Association announced in August that it would relocate 10 championships; its men's and women's basketball tournaments alone earned Charlotte $55.6 million in 2015.

Conventions cancel: $18.4 million. WRAL reports that Raleigh has lost nearly $9 million from numerous cancelled conventions, and Greensboro has lost $6 million from eight conferences that moved out of state. As of late April, Asheville had lost around $2 million in tourism revenue. Orange County will lose a projected $1.2 million of previously expected tourism. By early April, at least 13 conventions had pulled out of Charlotte, and a May 20 estimate by the Charlotte Regional Visitors Authority based on seven of these put the lost revenue at $227,000.

Creating and defending HB2 costs taxpayers: $267,500. The North Carolina government is racking up hundreds of thousands of dollars in bills to defend HB2, with more costs to come as legal battles over the law continue. As of July, the state had already spent $176,000 on court costs, and former Gov Pat McCrory (R) spent $7,500 of government funds on travel to defend the law on television. The bill was created in a "special session" that cost taxpayers $42,000, and the recent special session that failed to repeal HB2 cost another $42,000.

Major performances defect: $208,000. Ani DiFranco, Blue Man Group, Boston, Bruce Springsteen, Cirque du Soleil, Itzhak Perlman, Maroon 5, Nick Jonas, Pearl Jam and Ringo Starr all canceled North Carolina performances because of the law. It's hard to find definitive numbers for how much these cancellations cost the state, but Greensboro Coliseum and its vendors alone say they have lost at least $208,000 because of HB2-related cancellations.

Other losses are more difficult to quantify. Because of HB2, film companies A&E Studios, Turner Broadcasting and Lionsgate pulled planned future productions out of North Carolina. The Lionsgate production alone would have provided 100 jobs. Director Rob Reiner said he won't consider North Carolina for any future productions unless HB2 is repealed, and other film companies including 21st Century Fox say they'll reconsider future projects in the state.

Travel bans to North Carolina in effect in the United Kingdom, five US states and numerous cities are also costing the state money. Still more losses loom, including potentially $4.8 billion in annual federal funding, as the US Department of Justice has said that HB2 violates seven federal laws including Title IX of the Education Amendment, Title VII of the Civil Rights Act and the Violence Against Women Act. However, federal action is less likely under the Trump administration.
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A travel ban by any other name and for any person is designed to restrict peoples movements. Kansas, North Carolina, Tennessee, etc have an absolute right to define their state laws. and as such California has a right to apply its laws.

So the president of the United States has discretion authority and has had for almost from it inception the right to ban travel.

Unless of course you are a progressive who choose to build a world based on their words that are meant to distort reality. college professors are pros at it that's why freedom of speech goes only one way (left)

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A travel ban by any other name and for any person is designed to restrict peoples movements. Kansas, North Carolina, Tennessee, etc have an absolute right to define their state laws. and as such California has a right to apply its laws.

So the president of the United States has discretion authority and has had for almost from it inception the right to ban travel.

Unless of course you are a progressive who choose to build a world based on their words that are meant to distort reality. college professors are pros at it that's why freedom of speech goes only one way (left)

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California's law does not ban anyone from Kansas, including Kansas teams, from entering California. It prevents California state universities and colleges from traveling to and playing against a Kansas school that is discriminatory. Kansas is trying to force gays back into the closet. California has said it wants no part of this and will not condone this type of treatment. Personally, I'm proud that my state has taken this action.

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A travel ban by any other name and for any person is designed to restrict peoples movements. Kansas, North Carolina, Tennessee, etc have an absolute right to define their state laws. and as such California has a right to apply its laws.

So the president of the United States has discretion authority and has had for almost from it inception the right to ban travel.

Unless of course you are a progressive who choose to build a world based on their words that are meant to distort reality. college professors are pros at it that's why freedom of speech goes only one way (left)

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Sorry, but his ban has to be Constitutional....you know the document he Swore to uphold and protect....

What a moron!
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1. California has not imposed a ban. As someone said earlier, it is more of a boycott. California is not stopping anyone from traveling to Kansas nor is it stopping anyone from coming to California from Kansas. It is denying its state colleges and universities from competing at Kansas colleges that allow on-campus clubs to deny participation by LGBTQ people. Private colleges are not stopped. Individual athletes are not stopped. Kansas has a right to its laws. California has the right to not condone those laws. California has the legal right to determine where students legally representing state schools can go. So, a student on UCLA's debate team, traveling as a member of the team would not be allowed to participate in a debate at Kansas State but a student attending a debate as an individual (not representing UCLA) would be free to go or not.

2. A President is allowed to put into place travel bans as needed. However, a President cannot break a Constitutional law to do so. To create a travel ban that focuses on a specific religion rather than a region is unconstitutional. Trump has said more than once that he would put into effect a travel ban against Muslims. When he signed the first Executive Order he specifically said that Christians from these countries would be given priority. Thus, he basically reiterated his campaign rhetoric against Muslims. It is Trump's mouth that has stopped him from getting a travel ban into effect.

I'd say comparing Trump's attempted ban and California's boycott is like comparing apples and oranges.

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You might want to do a little more research because the travel ban presented by President Trump is Constitutional that's the point .

And while you do not know this I do not consider you to be a moron. The Courts ( Judges) are clever in our they package their wares

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1. California has not imposed a ban. As someone said earlier, it is more of a boycott. California is not stopping anyone from traveling to Kansas nor is it stopping anyone from coming to California from Kansas. It is denying its state colleges and universities from competing at Kansas colleges that allow on-campus clubs to deny participation by LGBTQ people. Private colleges are not stopped. Individual athletes are not stopped. Kansas has a right to its laws. California has the right to not condone those laws. California has the legal right to determine where students legally representing state schools can go. So, a student on UCLA's debate team, traveling as a member of the team would not be allowed to participate in a debate at Kansas State but a student attending a debate as an individual (not representing UCLA) would be free to go or not.

2. A President is allowed to put into place travel bans as needed. However, a President cannot break a Constitutional law to do so. To create a travel ban that focuses on a specific religion rather than a region is unconstitutional. Trump has said more than once that he would put into effect a travel ban against Muslims. When he signed the first Executive Order he specifically said that Christians from these countries would be given priority. Thus, he basically reiterated his campaign rhetoric against Muslims. It is Trump's mouth that has stopped him from getting a travel ban into effect.

I'd say comparing Trump's attempted ban and California's boycott is like comparing apples and oranges.

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Dear Guest:

Aah the King's English..sail on the high seas or through a sales presentation..............................We are both right

Indeed California is boycotting states like Kansas. However given the distance between the states it has done so by imposing a travel ban of its players. If you recall Carter did so during the Russian winter Olympics boycotted them by refusing to let Olympians travel to the games.

Simply stated the "act"is "boycotting" the "method"by a "travel ban".

The bigger issue here is the continuing attacks on free expression. to allow this sort of nonsense to go unchallenged is to some day find this nation to evolve into a totalitarian state.

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You might want to do a little more research because the travel ban presented by President Trump is Constitutional that's the point .

And while you do not know this I do not consider you to be a moron. The Courts ( Judges) are clever in our they package their wares

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I guess that is why at least 2 separate FEDERAL COURTS have disagreed with you.....and apparently YOU know more about the Law and the Constitution than Federal judges....
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"One of these days, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals may declare the Constitution unconstitutional.”
~ Thomas Sowell
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