Chi just wants to divert from the uncomfortable subject. That and agitate the conservatives. He enjoys asking unrelated questions, just to bait and switch. Sorry Chi, but you are on your own. Not interested.

Hilary, the criminal has some credibility with the college age voters, but that's because they like to worship criminals like they do Hollywood pretenders. Any adult with common sense knows that she would be worst than the lowest rated GOP candidate. Hopefully, Hilary will be in jail before the general election, and thus less of a threat to America. We already have the worst president and enemy of America currently in the White house.

Obama wasted billions on bankrupt energy companies, so a few million to ensure justice is not unreasonable. Especially to ensure we don't elect another enemy of Freedom.

It appears that Chi has joined the band of trolls.

He's a good guy though. I need to cut him some slack.

It's obvious from the debate last night that increasing the minimum wage is not a happening event with a Republican victory. So now the battle lines are drawn, and the fight will be on. Running against it may alienate a large segment of voters. Choose battles carefully.

Absolutely right! The Republican poll leaders all said they are against a raise in minimum wage. This means the majority of American youths will vote en masse for Hillary, blacks will vote for Hillary, working poor will vote for Hillary, Hispanics will vote for Hillary, most women will vote for Hillary, and the college educated men and women under 55 vote for Hillary.

Remember the electoral college rules! Florida goes Blue! Thanks to Tampa-Clearwater, Miami-Dade, and Orlando!!!

Hillary wins - America wins!

Same old tune. You sing it at ever opportunity and it is getting tiresome. You make one assumption, and that is that these groups will and do vote in mass. Perhaps, perhaps not, we shall see.

Those blocs did vote that way in 2008 and 2012. With so much to gain from a Hillary vote and so much to lose from whatever Republican, it will happen once again in 2016.

Please also remember that at this time of year in 2007 Clinton was the lead candidate and all but coronated. Then an UNKNOWN blows right past her to get the nomination.

AND.....at that time her resume' was less tarnished than it is now. Her physical stature and appearance was certainly a whole lot better than it is now. What the time since her last blow out proves, is she is what she is and time only makes it ALL that much worse.

The problem for the democrats is they painted themselves in a corner by not surfacing any plausible candidates.

Biden? Gore? Waiting for the other shoe(s) to drop?

Would you care to make a wager of an ice-cold Yeungling that Hillary gets the nomination?

Can she still be nominated once she is indicted? Just wondering.

Thank you for the offer. No!
In that unlikely circumstance I would not want to further the dilusion by helping celebrate the party actually nominating a person of questionable ethics and honesty as the best their party has to offer.

Please remind me why we need the FEDERAL government involved in this. Individual states should be the place.

You people want FEDERAL involvement in everything.

Apparently someone is assuming that there will be a large liberal turnout to vote. Without Obama, there won't be a large black turnout. There never is, and it won't be any different. Do you really think that anyone that is already making $15 an hour cares if the minimum wage goes up to $15 an hour? You must think that every voter is pretty shallow if they are worried more about minimum wages than about employment, the economy, terrorism and the illegal invasion of aliens crossing unhindered across the border, taking their jobs. And if you don't think that young Americans are worried about illegals taking their jobs, then you can't think that they will vote based upon minimum wages.

I believe women are smarter than to be grouped by the likes of you, as being shallow enough to vote for a known criminal just because she is a female. Hilary won't get any of the republican female voters, so she may get half the total of women voters.

Independents are not fooled by Shrilary so they will likely make the difference in who wins the election. Right now they are leaning to the right of center. Minimum wages won't be an issue for them.

So, I would not start celebrating for Shrilary just yet. Even if she is on the ballot, she may not fare that well when it comes down to actual votes.

And to the troll that insists that shrilary will get the Florida eletoral votes. One state doesn't make the country. And remember that if Rubio is running against her, she will likely lose Florida.

College kids aren't going to vote based on min wages because they all think they deserve management wages when they graduate with a degree. Half the college kids won't be voting anyway.

There is an FBI investigation of Shrillary's criminal activity regarding national security. Some states have mentioned that they may not allow her on the ballot because of the investigation. I don't know how true that part is, so I can't swear to it. It would be interesting if that happens.

Only liberals will make a war out of something so trivial. Pathetic. Instead of working on unemployment (record number of folks quit working), poverty (record number still on food stamps) the pathetic economic growth, the national debt, the high cost of health care, terrorism, inflation, etc. you want to make war on minimum wages, which hardly relates to anyone. You tried to make it about abortion, but the GOP is not taking the bait. You tried to make it about gay marriage, but the GOP is not taking the bait. You are trying to make it about "black lives matter" but NO ONE is taking the bait. So, you only have minimum wages as a defense for Hilary......something for her to run on. Hmmm, pretty pathetic.

She will be on the ballot and will escape any federal prosecution. The WH will not allow that to happen to his party.

Two things however....

1. I am "hearing" and have no site to cite, simply some political professionals I know, tell me there is great concern in the Democratic Party of "less than enthusiastic" voter turnout spurred by backlash on this candidate. I suppose the Sanders crowds and enthisiasm are also an indicator of deep seeded problems with the Clinton candidacy.

2.. I also hear, not JUST from operatives but in addition insiders in DC and the beginnings of news reports, that there is a deep distrust, etc of the Obama WH. If voter apathy had not done in Romney, he would not be in the WH, and I cannot wait for the inevitable "tell all" books to come. Jarrett and company will certainly be uncovered.

Once Obama leaves the White House, those closest to him will only be more than happy to spill their guts for a book deal. Liberals are known for eating their young.

$15 minimum wage is extremely high in some areas of the country and extremely low in other parts of the country. That's why the Fed Gov needs to allow states to handle this kind of legislation. The Fed Gov has it's own problems, and doesn't need additional responsibilities such as this. We don't need a gov nanny.

When you went from Hillary to Shrillary did you just cross the troll line?

I am not the OP, but I would say no if the name Shillary fits...and it does.

CHI.....I am one who criticizes you,and your little pals, often for your little zings.

HOWEVER I agree that was not necessary at all

That sarcasm is not necessary, HOWEVER, having said that....the poster was responding to a member of your little gang and she is infamous on here for repeating the same things over and over totally unrelated to any real issues, ridiculing and she can get under your skin a bit. THAT is the motive of your gang I assume, but it does go both ways, and is unnecessary.

It would be nice to read one of you actually discussing issues or telling everyone why your candidate is best for the country.

They should have both an adult and children section on here.

It is obvious the postings and the media who are in favor of ALWAYS increasing the minimum wage....they have no knowledge what the impact will be on small businesses and the different way the bigger ones will run their business.

There is only so much money left in the pot after all the bills are paid to pay the help.

It will come out to be more money.....FOR FEWER PEOPLE!!


If $15 per hour is what the minimum wage for no experience, no education, no knowledge, no qualifications (until trained) what will raisng the floor closer to those with some skills do? Of course it will incite them to require more for contributing and knowing more.

The other very important aspect of this entire charade is that minimum wage was never ever intended to provide a living wage or support a family and all the other perks of life that all of a sudden have become part of the equation to warrant higher minimum wages.

Politicians and supporters of increasing minimum wages who have no idea or understand anything having to do with running a business or profit and loss.

Only buying votes and providing more handouts......with absolutely no idea what they are doing!

here is an interesting historical chart (for those who understand charts).

So the proposal is to more than double what is the current minimum wage of $7.25 (as shown).

The chart wouls loudly shout......REALLY!!

Also check out the timing of the last largest increases.....sometime in the last 7 years!!

Totally and completely out to lunch.

Fix the economy and create more jobs so people (who want to) can advance their skills and their incomes. The rest can stay behind at truly MINIMUM WAGES.......as chosen.

oooopss here is the chart:

Minimum wage since 1938 - CNNMoney

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Your post makes a lot of sense. The Guest disguise makes it hard on all who want to have a real discourse where thoughts and ideas can be exchanged. The malcontents and trolls would be tagged.

Chi-town, are you kidding? How can you call anyone else a troll? And as far as the difference between "guest" and a moniker like "chi-town" is what???? All forums are anonymous, no matter what name you attach to it.

That was the kinder of two identifiers I have for her. The other one ryhmes with witch, as in the wicked witch of OZ (DC).

Sorry chi, if I am not well versed in PC. How about PR (political rhetoric)?

I am a bit confused.

YOU are part of the little band of guys and gals who mock people on here. For whatever reason, we see your name, but most know who the others are. I suppose it is good for them to "hide" behind GUEST, but most are not ashamed of their views, but trolling under you real name does get you a rep I suppose.

I wish the guest thing would go away. I am not embarrassed by my views and have posted them here for years.

If we got rid of GUEST, it might give me pause when I reply to your troll gang however., because I get goaded by their immaturity a lot

AJ, BTK, MD, et al. You see me...I see you. Who cares? This forum wouldn't be nearly as interesting without your interactions (or this thread). Unfortunately, we need some new blood in this game or it will just be the gang of 6 vs. the gang of trolls.

First of all, if you see this as a "game" then my expectations of exchanging ideas will never be met !!! That "game" remark really stands out to me.

Next, I have asked and investigated and can tell you with no much fear of contradiction that the "gang of 6" never existed and does not exist now at all. That was a term used by ONE poster and he passed it on and it was begun because there were a number of posters who wanted an exchange of ideas and thus posted them. There was this other small group, and while I do not like the use of the name troll, that fits them. They had zero interest in exchanging ideas, simply wanted to create havoc and have fun among themselves. So, that mistaken group never existed and does not exist in any number less than or more than 6 in anyway.

Actually, the fact that you mention that term tells my your group.

I suppose you sum it up now that I know where you are coming from. To you and your pals, this is a game to be played. To others it is a forum to exchange ideas.

I might add....the "gang of trolls" is a new term and I know the person who coined it.

There are a few posters who have been thrown off this board at various times over the years. They, I suppose, feel a bit more entitled than most on here,and feel a cut above. They demostrated that over the years and have been thrown out of here a few times.

That group coined the GANG OF SIX thing in order to mock, because that is what these folks do. They have lied on here, connived on here and played silly little school games and when they got caught, they got pitched.

The GUEST thing here in political takes the pressure off the admin which I am sure was their intent; ie, let the dirty kids play in their own area and we will not even have to respond to complaints (which was the primary reason for the downfall of the original political forum).

The constant repeating of that phrase prompted a few posters to respond by calling those mocking posts and referring to them as a gang of trolls, which in fact they are in every respect of the definition.

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