In order to make any sense out of the bizarre spending policies of the Obama administration, you have to take time to study the Cloward/Piven strategy. Cloward and Piven were radical political scientists at Columbia in the mid-60's.

Rather than placating the poor with government hand-outs, wrote Cloward and Piven, activists should work to sabotage and destroy the welfare system; the collapse of the welfare state would ignite a political and financial crisis that would rock the nation... http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/g...asp?grpid=6967

The Cloward/Piven Strategy advocates forcing change through crisis. What do you think TOTV posters, beginning to sound familiar?

The radical duo called for bankrupting the welfare system by forcing more and more entitlements. Cities were targeted to "flood-the-rolls", break the public coffers and create chaos. The idea was to collapse our entire system of government and pave the way for pure socialism.

Activist groups pushing the Cloward/Piven scheme popped up in cities across the country. One such group, the National Welfare Rights Organization (NWRO), founded by African-American militant George Alvin Wiley, was successful in the bankrupting of New York City in 1975. Other groups were formed led by guess who?????? Would you believe a cult called A.C.O.R.N

These movements rely heavily on financial support from...guess who?????
Would you have guessed George Soros?

In its earliest form, the Cloward-Piven strategy applied Alinsky's principle to the specific area of welfare entitlements. It counseled activists to create what might be called Trojan Horse movements - mass movements whose outward purpose seemed to be providing material help to the downtrodden, but whose real purpose was to draft poor people into service as revolutionary foot soldiers.http://cloward-piven.com/

Oh... it doesn't stop there. The mobilization of the masses to over burden government resources provided a perfect storm that was parlayed into "voter rights" movements in urban areas. These movements are identified with voter registration campaigns, aided by unions and are tainted with corruption, fraud, bullying and intimidation by union thugs and other despicable un-American tactics. Hmmm....do you remember recent elections and tea parties tainted by Black Panther Party intimidation and union bulls beating a black man? Of course the Republican Party was the beneficiary of all this mobilization. Just testing to see if you are paying attention.

TOTV posters, do not assume that the economic blunders of the Obama administration are the product of inexperience. That is what they want you to think. Try viewing them through the prism of the Cloward/Piven Strategy tempered with Sal Alinsky and Karl Marx.

The bank busting, economy destroying Obama Healthcare Plan, Cap and Trade (TAX) suddenly makes more sense when connected with the Cloward/Piven Strategy. In one swoop, the goal of bankrupting and collapsing the system will be achieved. Call me crazy but from my abstract, minority perspective, there seems to be some insidious logic in the process.

Hmmmm.....(thinking out loud) How does the Great Global Warming Fraud fit into this equation?

Any defenders of Cloward/Pivens who care to make their case....by all means...go for it. Opposing views always welcome and on occasion, intentionally provoked.

There are copious references to Cloward/Piven on line. I've paraphrased a few and supplemented them with my own views and words. I like one that appears, although I am not certain, to come from A.C.O.R.N. http://cloward-piven.com/

Other references, some previously cited, include:

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/g...asp?grpid=6967

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/...tegy_of_e.html

Google is a wonderful thing. Have fun with Cloward/Piven

Excellent post Cabo,and I believe this is the goal.

Originally Posted by cabo35

In order to make any sense out of the bizarre spending policies of the Obama administration, you have to take time to study the Cloward/Piven strategy. Cloward and Piven were radical political scientists at Columbia in the mid-60's.

Rather than placating the poor with government hand-outs, wrote Cloward and Piven, activists should work to sabotage and destroy the welfare system; the collapse of the welfare state would ignite a political and financial crisis that would rock the nation... http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/g...asp?grpid=6967

The Cloward/Piven Strategy advocates forcing change through crisis. What do you think TOTV posters, beginning to sound familiar?

The radical duo called for bankrupting the welfare system by forcing more and more entitlements. Cities were targeted to "flood-the-rolls", break the public coffers and create chaos. The idea was to collapse our entire system of government and pave the way for pure socialism.

Activist groups pushing the Cloward/Piven scheme popped up in cities across the country. One such group, the National Welfare Rights Organization (NWRO), founded by African-American militant George Alvin Wiley, was successful in the bankrupting of New York City in 1975. Other groups were formed led by guess who?????? Would you believe a cult called A.C.O.R.N

These movements rely heavily on financial support from...guess who?????
Would you have guessed George Soros?

In its earliest form, the Cloward-Piven strategy applied Alinsky's principle to the specific area of welfare entitlements. It counseled activists to create what might be called Trojan Horse movements - mass movements whose outward purpose seemed to be providing material help to the downtrodden, but whose real purpose was to draft poor people into service as revolutionary foot soldiers.http://cloward-piven.com/

Oh... it doesn't stop there. The mobilization of the masses to over burden government resources provided a perfect storm that was parlayed into "voter rights" movements in urban areas. These movements are identified with voter registration campaigns, aided by unions and are tainted with corruption, fraud, bullying and intimidation by union thugs and other despicable un-American tactics. Hmmm....do you remember recent elections and tea parties tainted by Black Panther Party intimidation and union bulls beating a black man? Of course the Republican Party was the beneficiary of all this mobilization. Just testing to see if you are paying attention.

TOTV posters, do not assume that the economic blunders of the Obama administration are the product of inexperience. That is what they want you to think. Try viewing them through the prism of the Cloward/Piven Strategy tempered with Sal Alinsky and Karl Marx.

The bank busting, economy destroying Obama Healthcare Plan, Cap and Trade (TAX) suddenly makes more sense when connected with the Cloward/Piven Strategy. In one swoop, the goal of bankrupting and collapsing the system will be achieved. Call me crazy but from my abstract, minority perspective, there seems to be some insidious logic in the process.

Hmmmm.....(thinking out loud) How does the Great Global Warming Fraud fit into this equation?

Any defenders of Cloward/Pivens who care to make their case....by all means...go for it. Opposing views always welcome and on occasion, intentionally provoked.

There are copious references to Cloward/Piven on line. I've paraphrased a few and supplemented them with my own views and words. I like one that appears, although I am not certain, to come from A.C.O.R.N. http://cloward-piven.com/

Other references, some previously cited, include:

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/g...asp?grpid=6967

http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/...tegy_of_e.html

Google is a wonderful thing. Have fun with Cloward/Piven

Fantastic post CABO.....this is right out of President Obama's training and background !!

Good job

I am basically just making sure this gets "bumped" as it is ABSOLUTELY something everyone should read and NOT simply pooh pooh as a lot of right wing rhetoric.

I might add that this was out there being discussed BEFORE the election but basically ignored by the MSM.

We are only one year in with more to come and this has just begun.

For those of you who believe that ACORN, Soros and the like are simply accidental stories and mean really nothing, just read.....nothing made up or surmised...all factual !

Thanks Bucco.

Cabo35:
I am about 50% done reading your post. EXCELLENT

I mentioned George Alvin Wiley in the OP. A little further research and Google surfing reveals that not only was he a big time Cloward-Piven practitioner, but, he was also a mentor to a fellow by the name of Wade Rathke. If that name sounds familiar, Rathke was the founder and head of A.C.O.R.N. Dale Rathke, Wade's brother had that little A.C.O.R.N. million dollar embezzlement scandal a while back.

This is beginning to look like the cast of "The Usual Suspects". Where is the old investigative media when it counts?

Originally Posted by chelsea24

Perhaps the mainstream media doesn't run with some of these crackpot conspiracy theories because they spring from ill-informed or semi-informed bloggers that find it much more comfortable to hide behind a computer screen than to go out and actually "investigate" a story before they go running off at the mouth.

I'm not buying the "stealth" conspiracy theories (a new one every week.) and most of all, I am not buying that this President, President Obama, or any President of the United States for that matter, is consciously and deliberately trying to bring down this country.

Hi Chelsea. Always a pleasure to see you contributing even if it is from the left.

Do you believe this whole Cloward/Piven Strategy thing is a product of right wing, ill-informed crackpot conspiracy perpetrators? If you do, the history books need to be rewritten because their theories are quite evident throughout. I noticed you didn't post on this thread. Does that mean Cloward and Piven are conservative myths and you don't want to dignify the post by contributing or.....is it that you believe in their theories, or.....is it that they are an indefensible but relevent component of the liberal agenda? Perhaps its none of the above. I would be curious to know if you believe Cloward and Piven had it right? It appears by his actions, Obama does.

I could ask you about your view on the Fracking Gas thread, George Soros and the Democrats, but, I believe you will fly in the face of the self evident facts and dismiss the whole sordid circumstance as another crackpot theory. Of course, the overwhelming documented evidence is difficult to dismiss as "crackpot".

I give you credit for loyalty to the party line.