Not why....
Just asking you to back up your stupid words.

I will take one example of the MSM lying about the news. Or shut up

To all those who countered to my post let me say that my post was generic and politically neutral. never once did I even speak about Trump let alone defend him

My comments criticized the Fourth Estate's of absolving their responsibility to report news event factually, objectively and without bias. In that again I did not exclude any such organization.

The fundamental issue is of great importance because none of us are getting the truth. the advent of technology ( ie google, face book i phone internet) makes it possible to report fake news and to suppress one's point of view.

Yet here we are with posters missing the big picture. this thread is not about Trump or Rubicon. it is about the deterioration of our news media which we all rely on to know truly what is happening in our nation. Instead they have become propaganda mills of self interest and tabloid nonsense.

Personal Best Regards:

What do you expect in a Femo-Fascist regime?

AGAIN....you make accusations and I asked you to provide an instance of the MSM lying in reporting about Trump, and once again, you dodge the question.

NO, the thread is about RUBICON and Trump....you and Trump make accusations toward a group of people BUT NEVER EVER SUPPLY ANY BACK UP........NEVER EVER

As we see with Trump, it is so easy just to accuse people but never be able to back it up.

You are like two peas in a pod.......both lie....both condemn others with labels.....and both never are able to back up what they say

YOu are correct with your hints at how fake news is spread and maybe if you read anything but your whacko websites, you will see that everybody knows that and the vast amount of fake news spread on those sites was from those who support Trump

Here you go "drama fag":
Fake News Rap Sheet: Last Week the MSM Was Caught Telling FORTY Lies | Daily Wire

By the way; you lie too...

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First, I suggest you read about the fellow who IS The Daily Wire.

Mr Shapiro is a known white supremicist. He has also authored many satire stories.

But even with that, I gave it a look. Read it....it makes no sense. He simply doesn't like what people say, but offers no lies at all.

Plus, you folks say the media lies in the news,....that you cannot ever prove...they do not. Commentary is not news.

Your source..one conspiracy after another
Ben Shapiro - Wikipedia

OK...he's smart...he "knows the score"...he knows white people ARE superior to negros. WHY do you make that a crime?

Are you superior to a 3 y/o? Meaning can you do more than a 3 y/o? Do you know more than a 3 y/o? Should a 3 y/o get preference because you are superior?

There is a thread on the forum concerning Nietzsche, and it calls to mind and has relativity to this thread.

"Nietzsche fancied himself a prophet of things to come – and not long after Donald Trump won the presidency, the Oxford Dictionaries declared the international word of the year 2016 to be “post-truth”.

Indeed, one of the characteristics of Trump’s campaign was its scorn for facts and the truth. Trump himself unabashedly made any claim that seemed fit for his purpose of being elected: that crime levels are sky-high, that climate change is a Chinese hoax, that he’d never called it a Chinese hoax, and so on. But the exposure of his constant contradictions and untruths didn’t stop him. He won.

Nietzsche offers us a way of understanding how this happened. As he saw it, once we realise that the idea of an absolute, objective truth is a philosophical hoax, the only alternative is a position called “perspectivism” – the idea there is no one objective way the world is, only perspectives on what the world is like.

This might seem outlandish. After all, surely we all agree certain things are objectively true: Trump’s predecessor as president is Barack Obama, the capital of France is Paris, and so on. But according to perspectivism, we agree on those things not because these propositions are “objectively true”, but by virtue of sharing the same perspective."

This is from the link supplied in that thread....

The post-truth era of Trump is just what Nietzsche predicted

Interesting it speaks to perspectives.

Also this morning a poster used a link to a known white supremicist and extreme right wing blogger.

When we read ONLY that kind of tripe, and it is tripe, our perspectives become so mixed up and confused, we lose touch with reality.

If you read only PRO Trump or hard right extreme websites, you WILL lose all touch with reality. Same thing applies to those on the left who only will listen to the extreme.

Trump is setting up new reality NOT based on truth. Part of that is to condemn the MSM because they report facts in news, and are not trying to change your perspective but to inform.

If you lose the need to get informed, and only want to feed the perspective you want, this is what you get.

The media does not lie..they present facts in the news, and if you find it not acceptable, then react to the facts, not some jerk off making money by selling extreme ideas on a website.

Read the news and see how that was used AGAINST US during the election in what was NOT a hoax, but an invasion by a foreign country.

You don't like daily wire because no white supremacist can tell the truth... you don't like Breitbart because they don't say what you like to hear... You don't like Fox News because they don't say what you like to hear...

I guess it's just MSM and NBC News for you, they are the only ones that say it the way you want to hear it... and that makes it the truth.

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The 1960s began the era of "post-truth". Equality is ALL lies.

Crime levels ARE sky high...in "diverse" places...places that have high percentages of minorities. Places like S and W Chicago, Baltimore, E St Louis.

Well duh...WE each see the world through our own eyes. And we perceive based on our past experiences. EVERYTHING is relative. But there ARE "truths". Blacks DO destroy everything they touch.

There you go...being all biased. Maybe it's NOT tripe...maybe it IS the truth. Mainstream media is a propaganda machine...just like in Germany in the 1930s.

The media DOES lie...often.

ALL part of divide and conquer.

You have completely lost touch with reality.

Take a time out....for a long long time.

Why would I read a website or source that lies and tells mistruths or half truths ?

Does that not defy any reason ?

I am not a white supremicist or hate monger so why would I listen or read some sickos sharing who they hate.

This country needs to stop with the hate, accusations, etc and start to listen and talk.

I realize that is outside your reality

Your assumption about my reading or watching is coming from your false sense of reality.

I watch Fox....I watch all the network and cable news as well. I also read and I insure I read BOTH sides if there are two sides.

Fox simply OMITS things that are part of the story or as in the last week, headline the Hollywood crap. I prefer not to hear all of that stuff.

I make sure I read both sides of the political spectrum. I find that the FACTS on MSM are the same, even thought people on here are screaming about lying...the only lies are those on video or direct quotes from our President.

My objection to Fox is they simply do not report anything everything, and do not even do much NEWS. Fox has become a lot of commentary with a lot of gals with short skirts talking as if they know something.

i think Shep Smith does a good job, but you folks call him a fag, etc because he DOES report the news

Actually...I'm quite grounded.

Because you don't KNOW what IS true and what isn't. Do you believe the races are equal? Then you DON'T know the truth. You won't find that on the mainstream propaganda outlets.

It's quite reasonable to want to know EVERY side of a situation.

Because maybe you SHOULD hate too? We're being overrun...bred out...it's time WE stand up for OUR rights and OUR race.

Sure...lets talk...but we MUST speak the truth. NAME one thing besides the NBA and NFL where blacks are actually equal.

There are MORE than 2 sides...2 sides is what the propaganda machine WANTS you to believe. Divide and conquer.

Again...2 sides, 2 parties...divide and conquer.

Because that's the party line...what they WANT you to "know"...which is many times a lie. Take race...you'll NEVER get the truth on MSM.

How about here? Fat ladies in mumu's talking as if they know something. How many..show of hands...have been to MLK Blvd yet as I've asked so you can see for yourself that I'm being truthful...they are NOT like us...how many?

Because he IS gay.

Still trying to digest all the info in this thread, but this stands out to me. Could you provide proof of this statement? I have seen where he was accused of being a white supremacist, but never saw any evidence of that.

Actually leaving right now but will address this when I return.

I do know that he does not like your hero, Trump for many of the same reasons I do not....."But his overriding focus this campaign season has been on Trump, whom he views as not only a fake Republican, but a legitimately dangerous figure."

Explaining Ben Shapiro’s Messy, Ethnic-Slur-Laden Breakup With Breitbart

He spends too much time discussing race, ethnicity, etc for me. He and others from Briebart make this a career, discussing others religions and color