Yep 2 people outside a polling place.....have ya seen them anywhere else?

Before you post get your facts together and get them correct! The Civil Rights Act was signed in 1964. The confederate battle flag was first flown at the South Carolina capital building in 1961. It was placed there to commemorate the centennial anniversary of the start of the Civil War.

When is everyone going to grow a pair. It's not about the flag...it's about Jackson and Sharpton using a crisis to shake down these companies for money and donations. It's always been about the money.

Great post! I guess the nail got hit on the head!

So you are saying that Gov Nikki Haley (R-SC), Gov Terry McCullough (D-VA), Senators Lindsey Graham and Tim Scott (R-SC), along with the senators from Mississippi, and governors from NC, GA, and AL are all working with Jackson and Sharpton to ban the flag from public areas to raise money for Jackson and Sharpton? Interesting!!!

I picked the wrong week to launch my new magazine "The Confederate Homophobe".

Good One!!!! :bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

Like I said it is all about the money. I notice everyone you mentioned is a politician. These people are just looking for votes. Take off your blinders. Give me a name of one of the politicians mentioned above who has led a concerted effort to take down the flag? Not until 9 innocent souls were gunned down by some racist maniac did they become concerned. Concerned about votes! Nothing more and nothing less.

According to today's news, the votes are there in the SC legislature to remove the confederate flag from the statehouse grounds in Columbia. It will take a two-thirds majority vote in both houses. It sounds like the earliest this will happen is July 6th.

Then they can begin the campaign against the American flag, Monticello and the Jefferson memorial.

I have my popcorn out waiting for that....you all keep saying this haven't seen anything yet!!!

Still waiting.....

I don't know if this has been mentioned, but the flag that is being referred to as the Confederate flag is actually identified as the Confederate Battle Flag. First used by the Army of Virginia during the ever popular Civil War. The battle flag was used because the Confederate States of America flag was often mistaken for the US flag during battle.
People have negative associations with the Confederate Battle Flag and the flag used by Nazi Germany during WW2. Here in the good old USA we have the freedom to display either flag to show our allegiances to the philosophy behind the display of each flag. Some agree and some disagree with what each flag represents.
The South still roils over the atrocities it suffered under the carpetbaggers and Union Army from the North. The Jews and Allies still have negative feelings over the atrocities committed during WW2.
"God Bless the USA"

And just what do you believe each flag represents? No connotations of racism or hatred? Would you say nothing if your next door neighbor in The Villages flew the confederate battle flag and the Nazi flag on their flagpole or garage every day?

By the way, it is a crime in Germany to fly a Nazi flag.

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It is interesting that in this discussion of "offensive flags", there is no mention of the "rainbow flag" being used in a simulation of the raising of the flag on Iwo Jima. This is surely not offensive.

There certainly are such similarities in the heroic efforts being memoralized


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Of course, Walmart did the right thing on this issue...

"In a now-removed YouTube video that gained almost half-a-million views in three days, a man named Chuck Netzhammer condemns Walmart for making a custom Islamic State battle flag cake for him the day after his request for a Confederate flag cake was denied."


Walmart sorry for making ISIS cake

Gotta keep these things in the right context, right ?

ISIS flag is acceptable. They do not discriminate at all. Oh, wait, they kill only non Muslims.

History Cannot Be Rewritten
 

Even though some are offended by this battle flag, not everyone is. History cannot be rewritten just because some don't agree with it. The Civil War was not about slavery, but taxation without representation which is why the US was born to escape that very thing. Slavery only became a part of the equation later and since then, many think that that is the only thing it was about. Someone else pointed out that the original Confederate Flag was often mistaken for the US Flag from a distance on the battlefields and many were killed/wounded by friendly fire before it was changed. All this is contained in history books related to the Civil War.

I have no feeling either way about it. To ban TV shows like Duke of Hazzard because of it is going way over the line. It was a comedy about a couple of 'good ole boys' and their shenanigans, not racism.

Those who say that taxpayer dollars should not support any display of the banner should also be raising holy-you-know-what about using tax dollars to change out the light bulbs shining on the White House celebrating Gay Pride. The Gay Pride movement should be condemning those who would vilify the raising of the Flag at Iwo Jima, as well. I would be willing to bet that those stunts were an embarrassment to many of their community.

I have no problem with gays, any race, or anyone else wanting to be treated equally and fairly. What I do have a problem with is any group wanting special treatment, and this is exactly what is happening.

The sooner we get rid of PC, the sooner we can find the tolerance this country was founded to become. You don't have to like me, you don't have to agree with me, nor I you; you do need to respect me and I you.

Here's a screenshot thst should drive you nutsAttachment 52895...

Fortunately for me, I do not have to vote in the city of Philadelphia, but I can tell you from people that I do know that live there that voter intimidation is a constant threat, especially around the Presidential elections. It may seem funny or insignificant to those of you who don't have to deal with these types of threats when you go to vote, but it is not to those who do. Of course, denying that anything like this exists is always another option....

I think that most people know the primary cause of the Civil War was over economic disparity between the North and South. As a poster pointed out, only around half the Southerners had a slave. They were an expensive commodity and the average family could not afford the cost.

Great movie to see is Shenandoah. Kind of brings this to life and how the war affected families.

I personally don't think the C.F. is relevant anymore. However, that being said, it was not a flag of a "slave nation". It was a battle flag of the Confederate Army. Not all southerners believed in slavery or felt the war was about slavery. To many it was about states' rights. Back at the time of the signing of the Declaration of Independence, there were many states that did not want to sign it. The fear was a centralized federal government would try and supersede the states' rights to set their own laws (which of course has now happened). Many felt Pres. Lincoln was over stepping the Constitution.
The C.F. represents a lot of different things to different people. It is probably not wise to hang it over any government building. It belongs more in a museum along with its true history.
The real issue here is 1st amendment liberty. I may not like you hanging your C.F. over your own home, but the constitution does not protect me from being offended by your 1st amendment rights.
Also, to blame the current racial discord on that flag is naive at best. The whole debate has been manufactured to stir up emotions and to divide our nation.

Anyhow, driving south on I-75 past Tampa yesterday I noticed a huge Confederate flag blowing in the wind. It is on the west side and right before the Martin Luther King Jr. exit. The humor did not escape me.

Sorry, but you need to get your history straight. The single issue that split this nation and caused the Southern states to mutiny and begin a war that killed and injured more Americans than all other wars was slavery.
Alexander Stephens, VP of the CSA said

The new constitution has put at rest, forever, all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institution -- African slavery as it exists amongst us -- the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution. Jefferson in his forecast, had anticipated this, as the "rock upon which the old Union would split." He was right. What was conjecture with him, is now a realized fact. ..Our new Government is founded upon exactly the opposite ideas; its foundations are laid, its cornerstone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery, subordination to the superior race, is his natural and normal condition. This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth.”


How many more quotes would you like from the people who created the CSA and the war, from their state constitutions and documents stating very clearly that the issue of slavery is what caused the south to revolt?

How about reading the Mississippi declaration of secession.
Avalon Project - Confederate States of America - Mississippi Secession

Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin.


The Civil War was about slavery, about the coming to power of men who supported abolition of slavery. There was not a whiff of concern about taxation without representation, and the issue of state's rights was about the right of the state to determine the ownership of the Negro.

Here is Jefferson Davis's farewell speech to the US Senate as he leaves to join the CSA
Farewell Speech | Teaching American History
Slavery again, slavery is the issue.

It was that issue, the God-given superiority of the White man and the proper place of the Negro as his slave, complete with the curse of Canaan on his head that sparked the Civil War, and that issue is represented by the flag so happily taken up as a symbol by the KKK today.

Stupidity is hard to overcome when you have right Wing mouthpieces everywhere you turn feeding lies and half truths to the sheep.

Well articulated.
The writing will most certainly irk those who are for lack of a better term called the opposition.
They are very easy to spot and stop reading anything they post. They usually open or close and espouse nothing but name calling and disrespect for another opinion.
They pretend to represent "some" (using the term very loosely) who love our country and what it stands for as long as all others agree with their position.
They have little or no value to add to ANY conversation (again using a term loosely).

The only things reasonable folks have in our favor is they are in the minority and the delete key.