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Guest 10-25-2015 06:22 PM

Carson may do good in the Iowa caucuses but that does not mean a thing. The looney right wing evanagilicans in Iowa do not represent sane people by any stretch of the imagination.

Guest 10-25-2015 06:37 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1135477)
Carson may do good in the Iowa caucuses but that does not mean a thing. The looney right wing evanagilicans in Iowa do not represent sane people by any stretch of the imagination.

It is quite comforting to know we have such people on this forum that have the vast knowledge and experience to judge others, and to be qualified to sufficiently judge sanity.

Question since you have these powers.

Why would anyone trust proven and admitted liars as the Clinton couple truly are ? Is that considered a mental defect of some sort ?

Guest 10-25-2015 07:05 PM

Ben Carson does NOT believe in evolution and he believes the Earth and everything on it was created in SIX days about 6,000 years ago.

People who believe in the Bible as literal history - like Carson does - are not rational in any sense of the word.

We do not need right wing loons like him leading the country - and we won't. The general population of America is a lot smarter than to vote him into office.

Americans showed the Republicans in 2008 and 2012. It will happen again in 2016 - thanks in part to the electoral college.

Remember, the smaller Republican counties in Florida lose out to the much larger Democrat bastions. All Florida electoral votes will go to Hillary Clinton!

Guest 10-25-2015 07:06 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1135488)
It is quite comforting to know we have such people on this forum that have the vast knowledge and experience to judge others, and to be qualified to sufficiently judge sanity.

Question since you have these powers.

Why would anyone trust proven and admitted liars as the Clinton couple truly are ? Is that considered a mental defect of some sort ?

I am glad to know that your knowledge on any subject is "half-vast".

Guest 10-25-2015 07:30 PM

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I am glad to know that your knowledge on any subject is "half-vast".

I know for sure I do not have the knowledge or ability to judge so many people with a few keystrokes as you seem to have.

Guest 10-25-2015 08:08 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1135503)
Ben Carson does NOT believe in evolution and he believes the Earth and everything on it was created in SIX days about 6,000 years ago.

People who believe in the Bible as literal history - like Carson does - are not rational in any sense of the word.

We do not need right wing loons like him leading the country - and we won't. The general population of America is a lot smarter than to vote him into office.

Americans showed the Republicans in 2008 and 2012. It will happen again in 2016 - thanks in part to the electoral college.

Remember, the smaller Republican counties in Florida lose out to the much larger Democrat bastions. All Florida electoral votes will go to Hillary Clinton!

I have no idea, as you do, how voting will go.

I DO know that i pray that voters do not judge all Christians as you did as "not rational" I saw many of those "loons" as you call them today praying in church, totally unaware of your slurs.

For extremely non religious posters, we sure have a few who do have the ability and profound knowledge to judge other people based on their beliefs.

I recall a country once where you did not get classified as a "loon" or "not rational" for having faith.

Guest 10-25-2015 09:40 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1135477)
Carson may do good in the Iowa caucuses but that does not mean a thing. The looney right wing evanagilicans in Iowa do not represent sane people by any stretch of the imagination.

How did Obama do with these folks you are tarring and feathering!

A not unexpected lack of respect for anything. Pretty sad actually.

Guest 10-25-2015 10:11 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1135533)
I have no idea, as you do, how voting will go.

I DO know that i pray that voters do not judge all Christians as you did as "not rational" I saw many of those "loons" as you call them today praying in church, totally unaware of your slurs.

For extremely non religious posters, we sure have a few who do have the ability and profound knowledge to judge other people based on their beliefs.

I recall a country once where you did not get classified as a "loon" or "not rational" for having faith.

Loons and not rational are the terms given to the ones who take the stories in the Bible as historical fact and that the world is dated back to 6,000 years.

That is the Old Testament.

Guest 10-26-2015 03:45 AM

Keep in mind that Carson wants the bible to dictate the law of the land and NOT the constitution. I guess he would put Kim Davis on the Supreme Court.

Guest 10-26-2015 04:17 AM

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Keep in mind that Carson wants the bible to dictate the law of the land and NOT the constitution. I guess he would put Kim Davis on the Supreme Court.

Dear Guest:

What you say is just plain silly because the Constitution clearly separates state and religion. Many posters claim he would not make a good president. I have not made up my mind about Carson but since he is a man who believes in God one can infer that he has a conscious. Carson also projects an honesty, a morality and ethical essence about him and because of his profession an understanding of how things affect people. He has a methodical mind, a creative mind and has spent his life in pursuit of only good and positive things.

Essentially what I am saying is he has good character and right now we need a person with good character.

A president takes a solemn oath . In my mind I envision which of the candidates I would believe who would swear to uphold the laws of this nation and conduct the people's business.

I have selected the candidates whom I believe would honor that oath and I have eliminated the candidates whose background has demonstrated that they can't be trusted and that they would only promote their own self interests.

Posters may ridicule me for getting on a stump here but voters still are not getting it, this nation is at the precipice of a continuing decline because we are becoming a godless, greedy, small minded and self centered society. When Kardashian's running back to Lamar Odom crowds the news while Rome burns you can bet such a nation can't stand long.

These petty disputes among candidates and the over emphasis on social issues will sink us. voters need to focus their energy on issues such as national defense, the economy and foreign policy .

Since they are not either they don't care or they don't know any better. It is why some of us must speak up and reach beyond the pettiness. In that Marco Rubio has been a consistent model

Personal Best Regards:

Guest 10-26-2015 04:32 AM

Was Huckabee respecting the constitution when he praised Kim Davis for thumbing her nose at mans law and bringing the bible into the public office. You can word it anyway you want, but separation of church and state cannot be twisted into being the final say above the law of man. Also, I know you do not have to be a god freak to have moral values.

Guest 10-26-2015 05:14 AM

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Was Huckabee respecting the constitution when he praised Kim Davis for thumbing her nose at mans law and bringing the bible into the public office. You can word it anyway you want, but separation of church and state cannot be twisted into being the final say above the law of man. Also, I know you do not have to be a god freak to have moral values.

Well said. I just happened to read the latest headlines: Carson admits he used to be violent. Went after people with baseball bats and hammers. Enough said. The guy is a kook.

Guest 10-26-2015 05:15 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1135477)
Carson may do good in the Iowa caucuses but that does not mean a thing. The looney right wing evanagilicans in Iowa do not represent sane people by any stretch of the imagination.

And they don't represent the majority of the American electorate. Neither Carson or Trump has a chance of winning the general election.

Guest 10-26-2015 06:28 AM

So, since no one wishes to respond to your gibberish, you converse with yourself? Pretty pathetic, champ.

Guest 10-26-2015 06:36 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1135503)
Ben Carson does NOT believe in evolution and he believes the Earth and everything on it was created in SIX days about 6,000 years ago.

People who believe in the Bible as literal history - like Carson does - are not rational in any sense of the word.

We do not need right wing loons like him leading the country - and we won't. The general population of America is a lot smarter than to vote him into office.

Americans showed the Republicans in 2008 and 2012. It will happen again in 2016 - thanks in part to the electoral college.

Remember, the smaller Republican counties in Florida lose out to the much larger Democrat bastions. All Florida electoral votes will go to Hillary Clinton!

YOu are in the pathetic minority of non-believers. The Christian faith believes in creation and the word of the Bible as fact. There have been better persons than you that have tried and failed attempting to discredit the Bible.

You just go ahead and vote for your liar, cheater, and violator of national security. Put your trust in her. She could care less about you. You may not like Carson, but just by being a doctor it shows he cares about others. If you feel that his faith in God is worst than being a distrustful liar and national security threat, then go ahead and vote for Hilary. YOu must be a very miserable person, if you want the worst for America. Makes one wonder how you could hate your country so much.

Guest 10-26-2015 07:34 AM

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YOu are in the pathetic minority of non-believers. The Christian faith believes in creation and the word of the Bible as fact. There have been better persons than you that have tried and failed attempting to discredit the Bible.

You just go ahead and vote for your liar, cheater, and violator of national security. Put your trust in her. She could care less about you. You may not like Carson, but just by being a doctor it shows he cares about others. If you feel that his faith in God is worst than being a distrustful liar and national security threat, then go ahead and vote for Hilary. YOu must be a very miserable person, if you want the worst for America. Makes one wonder how you could hate your country so much.

...and we have just had a poster from the Westboro Baptist Church!

Guest 10-26-2015 07:40 AM

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...and we have just had a poster from the Westboro Baptist Church!

Still showing your ignorance. But diverting to West..Bap..Church is real original. It would be more credible if you could tie in some sort of relationship with the topic though.

But, do go back to conversing with yourself. I believe your mom is coming downstairs soon with your milk and fruitloops.

Guest 10-26-2015 08:07 AM

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Still showing your ignorance. But diverting to West..Bap..Church is real original. It would be more credible if you could tie in some sort of relationship with the topic though.

But, do go back to conversing with yourself. I believe your mom is coming downstairs soon with your milk and fruitloops.

...and your caregiver is coming to change your Depends. Give up, geezer.

Guest 10-26-2015 09:08 AM

Let's see, Carson professes to be a Christian. He's reputed to be a great surgeon, and that doesn't seem to be diminished by his faith. Maybe it even enhances his gift?
Hilary is a gifted liar. She lies to Americans, she doesn't care about national security and like Obama, she blames someone else for her failures. Perhaps her lying enhances her lawyer gift?

Carson, a Christian with a stellar reputation
Hilary, a dishonest lying felon with a disgraceful reputation.

Tough decision, I have to admit.

Guest 10-26-2015 09:14 AM

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...and your caregiver is coming to change your Depends. Give up, geezer.

If and when the occasion occurs that warrants me having to utilize "Depends" I am sure that Obamacare will pay for you to assist changing them for me. After all, once your socialism takes over America, you will need/be required to have a job. And by the way, I will thank you now for paying for my social security and pension, because I am probably the last generation that will enjoy both. Better stock up on work boots and gloves. Don't want to damage those tender, soft hands of yours.

Guest 10-26-2015 09:21 AM

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...and we have just had a poster from the Westboro Baptist Church!

These anti God, anti Religion, anti laws posters will go back a far as they can and do and say whatever it takes to convince everyone to abandon the caring about the character of our elected folks. They have no respect for anything except themselves.

Guest 10-26-2015 10:11 AM

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These anti God, anti Religion, anti laws posters will go back a far as they can and do and say whatever it takes to convince everyone to abandon the caring about the character of our elected folks. They have no respect for anything except themselves.

And the far right religious nuts think the only thing that matters for one to be a good politician is if someone spouts Bible verses and prays against all things liberal. They have no respect for anything except themselves.

Guest 10-26-2015 10:16 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1135663)
Still showing your ignorance. But diverting to West..Bap..Church is real original. It would be more credible if you could tie in some sort of relationship with the topic though.

But, do go back to conversing with yourself. I believe your mom is coming downstairs soon with your milk and fruitloops.

Back to the subject at hand, clearly the only fruit loop in the room is Carson. Going after people with baseball bats...really...And this is Presidential. Hmm..

Guest 10-26-2015 10:26 AM

[QUOTE=Guest;1135604]Keep in mind that Carson wants the bible to dictate the law of the land and NOT the constitution. I guess he would put Kim Davis on the Supreme


Dr Carson has publicly stated just the opposite - that one's religion or beliefs should NOT interfere with one's interpretation of the Constitution. He went further to say he would not vote for a Christian who pursued the creation of a theocracy.

I am very interested to see evidence to back your post.

Guest 10-26-2015 10:29 AM

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Back to the subject at hand, clearly the only fruit loop in the room is Carson. Going after people with baseball bats...really...And this is Presidential. Hmm..

He was a teenager when these things occurred. No one on here has ever done anything construed to be socially wrong, right?

Tell you what, you bring me his criminal record from the last 30-40 years. Then bring me his work ethic record, how many lives he has saved, a complaint from the conjoined twins that he operated on, and then we'll do a comparison study between his reputation, past record and Hilary's. Let's go back to her scandals in Arkansas, her work record, her lies, her blaming someone else for her failures, her family life, and........tell me how many lives she has personally saved.

Yes, I do believe he is a viable candidate for president. Will I vote for him? I haven't decided on a candidate yet, but it sure won't be the criminal Hilary, or the Socialist Bernie. You know, the guy that spent his honeymoon in the Soviet Union.

Guest 10-26-2015 10:36 AM

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And the far right religious nuts think the only thing that matters for one to be a good politician is if someone spouts Bible verses and prays against all things liberal. They have no respect for anything except themselves.

Let's examine this a bit. You claim that Christians (or religious folk in general) are nuts and have no respect for others. And yet, they constitute 80-90 percent of the population. You know what they say about those that think everyone else around them is crazy, don't you? It means that you are the real fruitcake, not everyone else.

You can give plenty of minute little details that you feel are disqualifiers for the candidates, but you have not been able to find one positive thing to support your criminal Hilary. That is pretty sad,,,,,,,and I will pray for you.

Guest 10-26-2015 10:39 AM

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Back to the subject at hand, clearly the only fruit loop in the room is Carson. Going after people with baseball bats...really...And this is Presidential. Hmm..

I can't help but wonder when I see statements like this if this is why liberals tend to want to keep those who are financially needy or struggling, be it morally or emotionally, under their thumb so to speak. Could it be that they don't believe that people can change? That they are incapable of pulling themselves up by their boot straps, therefore "big brother" has to intervene, often for life, to do everything for them? If so, how sad to look at your fellow man in this way. Seems like a pretty hopeless outlook on life. Not one I'm familiar with, nor I'm sure, are most Americans.

Care to comment?

Guest 10-26-2015 10:41 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1135780)
I can't help but wonder when I see statements like this if this is why liberals tend to want to keep those who are financially needy or struggling, be it morally or emotionally, under their thumb so to speak. Could it be that they don't believe that people can change? That they are incapable of pulling themselves up by their boot straps, therefore "big brother" has to intervene, often for life, to do everything for them? If so, how sad to look at your fellow man in this way. Seems like a pretty hopeless outlook on life. Not one I'm familiar with, nor I'm sure, are most Americans.

Care to comment?

:thumbup:

Guest 10-26-2015 11:03 AM

Perhaps the error in the thinking is there is any incentive or intent for the individual to improve.

I think it is just the oppoesite. The intent is to build a voter base that is dependent upon the government to provide benefits forever in return for re-elections.

There is no improvement required in their strategy what so ever.

The flaw (one of many) in their thinking? At some point the number with their hand out will so far excede those who pay into the government (taxes) that the benefits will wind up being reduced. A side effect of course will be the dependent will adjust as they have no other choice. Being that the dependent overwhelm the system eventually just by simple pro-creation.....the standard of living will continue to reduce.

One big advantage (it could be viewed as an advantage) is that no matter how bad the standard of living descends to it will be better than they had before the handouts or where ever they came from.

We are, like it or not on that path. Enjoy what we have today because it is the best it will ever be after today!


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