Just wondering if this BRAVE ANONYMOUS poster would call this police officer a coward to his face ?

How about the brave anonymous poster who called out Caitlyn Jenner or the anonymous posters who have stated things such as the immigrant and black populations just want free stuff from the government and breed like gerbils so they can get more? Would those posters say it directly to the faces of those people?

You are right. Always post only what you would say face to face.

and, let's try something new and different as well....stay with the topic or question being presented.

The liberal media just can't be everyone BUT Fox! That phrase is just tired and worn out......

I don't believe the police officer was cowardly.... I do believe he, unlike the other officers, was OUT OF CONTROL! There have been reports that he was under stress do to his day which included suicide calls. No matter what happens in an officer's day the public expects them to address each new situation with calm.

This officer did not, in this case! Should he have resigned? That is my question...

I think the question has been answered. The cop was not a coward. He was stressed from a very stressful day and made a choice in his actions that he regretted. No racial issue. Case closed?

Would appreciate I if you could cut and paste any of the posts you mentioned specifically. I sure have read a number of posts that generalize, or imply, but

NOT many, if at all SPECIFICALLY AND PERSONALLY aimed at one private citizen calling him a coward. There are facts to se, and are used on the generalizations, but calling a man, specifically, a coward is the height of cowardice itself.

You find fault with people who post details of an issue in general, such as immigration or career welfare folks who do not need to be, yet defend calling a man who has saved lives a coward ?

That sort of defies any logic,don't you think. You find it correct and moral to refer to public officials with cute derisive names because they don't fit into your scheme, but defend calling a public safety officer,who according to reports had already save a life that day, a coward ?

And, the topic and thread title reflects "cowardly Cop"

As a post script, because I think, don't know but believe, that this fits. In reading about trolls, I find this on Wiki right after a discussion of the psychological defects that lead to trolling....

"This is why novice Internet users are routinely admonished, "Do not feed the trolls!" The 2013 study found that trolls often have a high expectation of what it means to be successful, which is higher than they are able to attain, and this results in them resenting others who think they are successful but who fall below their standards."

Sorry, forgot to add the definition of a troll from the same article.

It fits with the "faux news", regressive, and the cutesy names used exclusively for one political party.

"In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[3]"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

I plead guilty to "feeding the trolls" by trying to call them out. That is my bad; I just expect more from TOTV, I suppose than those other sites where they discuss TOTV posters. We are neighbors after all. I have many face to face discussions on politics, always in a respectful manner and always learn something.

Sorry, but you have me confused with the OP. It was not me! I have posted a couple of times that I do not think the officer was not a coward but stressed due to a terrible day and he made a poor choice in his action and in resigning.

I believe in saying things face to face. I certainly do not like to see posts calling
others names or denigrating classes of people. I did not ever agree with the poster who called the officer a coward. If you read it that way, my usage was incorrect.

No, I am not a troll.

If I misidentified you, I apologize to you.

The troll definition and part analysis still applies to a few posters on here however.

This being the case, then will you be supplying the cut and paste of those posts referring in a specific manner to "breeding like gerbils" , etc. ?

Oft times posters generalize, sometimes correctly with valid back up, and others just emotionally make general statements, thus my request for your backup.

Jenner is different. He has chosen to make his life very public. He earns a very good living by not only allowing criticism, but welcoming it to fill the coffers.

I am working on an iPad and do not know how to cut and paste. However, go to the thread of Clinton's Advisors Not Doing Her Good and look at post 5. It says "procreating like gerbils", not breeding. Same thing basically and it truly does sound like a slur against a class of Americans. Tell me if it could be interpreted differently.

While I do not like the way presented by that poster, I saw no reference to blacks or immigrants in that post. A bit imaginative to add that ?

Agree. The girl was running her loud disrespectful mouth like a common street junky. Either you are delusional or you watched a different video.

This is the video you want to watch, it tells the whole story. The original video has been pulled, but this link still works.

The Facts Behind The McKinney Pool Fiasco – Part II | The Last Refuge

I find it disturbing that the focus is on what the cop did or did not do vis a vis what the crowd was doing.

I find it disturbing that there is little mention of how this situation could have turned violent but for the containment by this cop and other officers.

I find it disturbing that some people just do not recognize anarchy when they see it and if people like Obama, Holder Sharption and di Blasio don't restrain their remarks, and if Obama di Blasio Holder etc won't support the local sheriff its going to invite more criminal disobedience.

I find it disturbing that anyone would judge this cop so harshly for his reaction to two teens launching at him especially in this highly emotional disturbance.

In my view the cop given his difficult day reacted properly and contained the situation and his superiors should have backed him up.

What we are seeing, reading, hearing are people who never had respect for authority in the first place and now they have a venue offered on a silver platter by Obama and Company.

More good cops will resign and many will be infected with the blue flue. Crime will increase in many neighbors and cops will not get the respect and appreciation they deserve

Liberals did it to the guys who fought bravely in Vietnam and now they are doing it to our police

Obama will continue to listen to Sharpton and Sharpton will promote the idea of Federales. So ask yourself does this nation really want federal police taking over? Hint: think of Germany, Russia ,Romaine Mexico

Personal Best Regards:

I don't blame this poor cop for anything. I put more blame on Obama, Sharpton and Jackson. If I was a cop, I would be demanding that the police union stop funding the Democratic Party.

Good post.

Allow me to add another...I find it disturbing that enforcement of our laws has become political. It all begins with some misbavior, and not by law enforcement on the hunt. That misbehavior is addressed, and from there we color the picture with race, instead of the facts. In Ferguson, ON THIS BOARD, many wanted the policeman said head and now with total and utter disregard for any facts, and that applies to just about any of the many incidents recently. No police out looking to get anybody, just reacting to bad actors.

Then, and while I really hate to say this, because the President has tied his star to someone like Sharpton, off we go. The paid protestors, the demonstration of lies, like the "hands up don't shoot" lie.

It should not surprise. Both the President and the First Lady cut their teeth at Harvard on CRT (critical race theory) which for those already sneering, is not some Obama conspiracy theory. Both the President and his wife were active at Harvard manifesting this theory, and it is all public record.

Look racism exists, but it is not the motive for every act by every white person. We are moving into dangerous territory when even in Hollywood, they are being criticized for not making enough black movies. The push so far left in this country is nearing that ledge.

Who here at our age would holler at and in the face of a police officer. If he was wrong, take it to the courts, but on the site, listen and shut your mouth. I am surprised that cops don't shoot more of these loud mouth kids.

Today's version of modern liberalism has morphed into what is a genuine mental disorder. God help us ... although since liberals don't believe in a higher power, who knows what's next?

You are right - the public expectation is and should be as you stated above. However, we are all human. In the line of work that I do, if I make an error I could literally kill someone. I have to live with that thought every working moment and I do everything I possibly can to avoid a situation where that would occur. But being human there are no guarantees because we are not perfect. We go to work sometimes tired, sometimes sick, sometimes stressed - you name it - life is not perfect. To vilify someone over one incident is reprehensible to me. To expect that he may have to pay some consequences - definitely. No, he should not have resigned. A few days suspension and some counseling as a prior poster recommended sounds reasonable to me. This officer may have been too aggressive with this girl, but he did not beat her as others would like us to believe. We all have bad days, but one bad day should not determine the character of a person.

How can you actually post that liberals do not believe in God? Jesus was very liberal. Read St. Mark, chapter 25, verse 35. It speaks of liberalism.

The Unitarian Church and the Quaker Church are both extremely liberal.

You sound like a troll just trying to stir the pot.

1. St Mark, chapter 25, verse 35 does NOT mention liberalism at all. It speaks to giving. Which, implies that you feel that for some reason, Republicans are less generous and giving to those in need.

2. A study by Rice Univ and PennState came to a conclusion about those identified as liberals or conservatives.

"“We found that while both Republicans and Democrats tend to equally value justice and caring for the vulnerable, Republicans place a much higher value on issues of purity and respect for authority,” said Karen Page Winterich, study co-author and assistant professor of marketing at Pennsylvania State University. “Given these differences, Republicans are more inclined to donate to a charity when these values of purity and respect are met, whereas Democrats are more inclined to donate when the emphasis is purely on equality or protection rather than respect"

Giving Differently: Liberals and Conservatives Have Radically Different Views of Charity

This study is from 2013

3. In October 2014, a study was done using IRS records, which found....

"It turns out that old Bushism about “compassionate conservatism” may not be a myth after all. In a new analysis of Internal Revenue Service tax records, the Chronicle of Philanthropy on Monday ranked U.S. cities and states by how much money their residents give to charity. The bottom line? People in red states are more generous with their green.

The study, which compared IRS data from 2012 with data from 2006, showed that the 17 most “generous” states -- as measured by the percentage of their income they donated to charity -- voted for Mitt Romney in the last presidential election. The seven states at the bottom of the list, meanwhile, voted for Barack Obama."

Charitable Giving By State: Are Republicans More Generous Than Democrats, Or Just More Religious?

I am not a Bible scholar, but would ask if someone who knows the Bible...did I miss something.

I might add that most liberals I know admit, to me anyway privately, that liberals have done a good job of purposely painting the entire Republican Party and conservatives as the opposite.

St. Mark Chapter 25 Verse 35


"35
h For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, a stranger and you welcomed me,"

Quite bold, inaccurate, arrogant, brazen and many other adjectives to imply that only liberals rise to a level as promoted by Jesus.

I think this officer has/had seen enough of the black/white confrontation results and the circus that accompanies it especially if the media and the politicians and the special interest radicals decide here is another golden opportunity.

He either figured with the girl screaming and a camera just a few feet away he may have realized what was going to come from the media/poitical circus to follow.

Maybe he talked offline to his boss and then decided life is too short to become another Ferguson.

Or he had previously made up his mind this new black/white BS media circus is not worth what a cop has to go through and threw in the towel........like many are in how the currently do (or should say not do their jobs).

Where are the white protestors to come to his aid?

Actually, this post is disturbing. It is hateful to suggest something so inappropriate in the name of Jesus, and improperly using Bible quotes to help.

This poster needs to seriously look in the mirror.

No, The poster had said that liberals do not believe in God. Jesus was liberal. I know many of conservatives personally who are believers in God and are charitable. Same goes for liberals. We all know some liberals do not believe in God just as we know some conservatives do not believe in God.

This is just silly... There are no Liberal's left, the left wing of the Democrats no longer use that word they now identify as PROGRESSIVE.

Me, I did once claim to be liberal but alas I am to conservative on immigration for that label!!

It is hateful and inappropriate to say Jesus was a liberal? Why?

I think you need to define your definition of liberal.

Can't speak for the poster who wrote what you are referring to, but I find it offensive when someone takes one bible quote or portion of one and uses it for their own agenda, generally using it inappropriately. Many lies have been told over the centuries using the bible in that fashion. It is not a book where you can pick and choose. For those of us who believe in it, it is the book of life, to be read and understood in it's entirety.

Do you believe Jesus was a liberal or conservative? Please explain your reasoning.

The post I responded to said...liberalism was mentioned in the Bible....NOT TRUE. He gave chapter and verse where he said it was mentioned..NOT TRUE.

It implied,and I admit it was an implication, was the only dogma that abided by the teaching of Jesus, and somehow those not affiliated with liberalism are the only caring people on earth.

I debunked everything he said with detail

If I misread it, I am sorry, but I am pretty sure I know who posted it as he added the little barb about trolls, etc., thus I was not speaking with no substance.

While nobody should ever be so presumptions as to profess what people believe, ( as to say liberals do not believe in God) there are and have been, and continue to be posters who, ON THIS FORUM, have professed NON belief in God, and taken aim at any Christian who has strong beliefs.

I have no idea of anyone's personal beliefs, but I have grown weary of Christians having to explain their belief in God and morals. This kind of rhetoric, and this is what this poster had in mind for sure ...anyway, this kind of anti Christian rhetoric does tend to make you wonder about the belief system some have or do not have. Most, if not all, of the anti God, anti organized religion begins on the left, thus it does give you pause.

On this board alone, we were treated to an entire thread about that family on reality TV and the sexual charges. That thread was begun by a far left poster who we all know and was starte to "needle", "harass" Rev Huckabee because he had befriended this family. Many posts on there simply attacking people in one party, using the pretense of the relationship between Rev Huckabee and this family. I might add that the OP admitted the thread was based on Huckabee relationship, AS A MAN OF GOD.

Some posts on here are innocent errors, but some are deliberate attempts to mock, and the one you are correcting which was one of my two responses to this poster, was a inaccurate, not well veiled attempt to join Jesus with liberal politics of today.

I took offense to that and showed with statistics the total absurdity of the post.

I am sorry if I misread your defense of that poster, but I assure you I did not misread his post.

Who would ever be able to answer such a question, and who would be so arrogant and self absorbed as to ask it ?

Why would anyone ask that unless you felt "Jesus like" because of your political agenda, and felt that somehow, God is looking down and blessing one political ideology.

If that is a serious question, then the problem is deeper than we all believe.

To have the gall to place a political ideology mantle on Jesus is, to me, the epitome of arrogance and lack of any true belief.

To even hint to that as you do is quite offensive to me.

That implies that any Christian who worships Jesus in a conservative church, by someone's definition, is in the wrong place...well, you think much more of yourself than I think of myself.

And I might add, this little trick of using Jesus in a tool for political means is not that new, but remains offensive

How has a ridiculous thread on a policeman that did not act in accordance with his department policies become one to call him a coward and then morph into liberalism and the Bible?

I think it has spun so far off topic that I suggest we quit it voluntarily.

Okay?

It is a feeble attempt to then say that non liberals are non caring racists.

Oft used, never successful, and shown to be a lie on here with great validation.

Also, speaks to those who even have the gumption to make such a claim.

YOU ARE CORRECT.

My fault totally.

I allowed myself, as I admitted earlier to engage with the trolls.

Not totally - me too. I took the bait to defend something that is very important to me.............now onward to our regularly scheduled discussion.....:popcorn: