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Guest 10-19-2015 01:13 PM

I doubt that the public will ever see very much of either Bush or Cheney ever again. Only the extreme right wing tea partyers consider them popular figures!

Guest 10-19-2015 01:17 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1131993)
I doubt that the public will ever see very much of either Bush or Cheney ever again. Only the extreme right wing tea partyers consider them popular figures!

More BS!!

Guest 10-19-2015 01:27 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1131993)
I doubt that the public will ever see very much of either Bush or Cheney ever again. Only the extreme right wing tea partyers consider them popular figures!

Yes, the Bush family is pretty popular. GW Bush has probably been more instrumental in ridding AIDS in Africa than any other person/agency. But, of course he hasn't had time to play act on SNL as much as the current celebrity-in-chief. Bush was president of ALL Americans, not just the liberal/socialist party. Can't remember every hearing Bush slur the Democrats while sitting as president. I have to admit, both Cheney and Biden have something in common. Cheney has bad aim with his shotgun and Biden wants to shoot up in the air if he has an intruder with his shotgun.

Guest 10-19-2015 03:06 PM

Obama will open a race representation consortium in partnership with Sharpton and Jackson.

That means we will be seeing him as much or more than we do now.

His wife will go back to being disresctful of the USA as she stated she was before getting on the gravy train.

She could also be a 4th in the above consortium.

Guest 10-19-2015 03:23 PM

Strange that the curse of W thread has morphed into Obama being black. Or is it?

Guest 10-19-2015 03:40 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1132082)
Strange that the curse of W thread has morphed into Obama being black. Or is it?

Sorry Chi, would it make you feel all fuzzy inside if I was bit more PC and say, Obama is half-white? White didn't get him the job, and white didn't allow him to keep his job. Sometimes the truth is just too obvious for some folks. Lets face it, if another president tried to get away with half the things this president has done, there would have been threats of impeachment or worst.

Guest 10-19-2015 05:00 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1132082)
Strange that the curse of W thread has morphed into Obama being black. Or is it?

You know, CHI, I very seldom agree with you but on this one I do agree. It is strange...

HOWEVER and very important even more strange is how and why this thread even exists.

Let us review the OP on this thread and help me understand why it was begun. It surely had nothing to do with the current election cycle, as it was presented.

You folks just refuse to accept anything as being a bit over the top. These things get twisted totally and all of a sudden we are to feel sorry for the President being attacked, much as Bush was for 8 years.

Sorry....read the OP. This thread was begun to attack someone who has not been in office for 8 years and as a diversion.

However becoming anything racial is a problem so I agree with at least your premise but I also know that sensitivity to race is not what you are concerned about because if Obama said something race related you would be praising him no matter what or how he said it.

Guest 10-19-2015 06:42 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1132147)
You know, CHI, I very seldom agree with you but on this one I do agree. It is strange...

HOWEVER and very important even more strange is how and why this thread even exists.

Let us review the OP on this thread and help me understand why it was begun. It surely had nothing to do with the current election cycle, as it was presented.

You folks just refuse to accept anything as being a bit over the top. These things get twisted totally and all of a sudden we are to feel sorry for the President being attacked, much as Bush was for 8 years.

Sorry....read the OP. This thread was begun to attack someone who has not been in office for 8 years and as a diversion.

However becoming anything racial is a problem so I agree with at least your premise but I also know that sensitivity to race is not what you are concerned about because if Obama said something race related you would be praising him no matter what or how he said it.

:boom:

Guest 10-20-2015 06:02 AM

Obama IS black, so what's the complaint about talking racial when his whole two terms has been one big racial demonstration? Since when does an American sissy away from a subject IF the subject suggests the obvious? If you don't think that Obama has been given special consideration (AKA Affirmative Action) then you are in denial. No one knew of him, and he gets elected. Why? Because he would be the first black president, AND he was offering minorities HAND OUTS. Example: https://youtu.be/_Ojd13kZlCA
Or, you can check out what they tell us about free Obama cell phones. And yes, it was an earlier program that has morphed way out of proportion with the cell phones.

If a person achieves a position based primarily on his ethnicity then it really IS racist. If a person is given special passes on behavior that the average person would be punished for, based solely on his ethnicity then it IS racist. But, the racism is not coming from those that suggest it. It is coming from that person's belief that he is "owed" special consideration because of his ethnicity.

So, be PC if you wish, but some of us will be honest and speak the obvious. If anyone is offended by the truth, then they must live in a glass house and need to be real careful.
Being truthful does not make one hateful, unless the intent is to hurt. Stating the obvious should not be considered hateful.

Guest 10-20-2015 08:46 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1132316)
Obama IS black, so what's the complaint about talking racial when his whole two terms has been one big racial demonstration? Since when does an American sissy away from a subject IF the subject suggests the obvious? If you don't think that Obama has been given special consideration (AKA Affirmative Action) then you are in denial. No one knew of him, and he gets elected. Why? Because he would be the first black president, AND he was offering minorities HAND OUTS. Example: https://youtu.be/_Ojd13kZlCA
Or, you can check out what they tell us about free Obama cell phones. And yes, it was an earlier program that has morphed way out of proportion with the cell phones.

If a person achieves a position based primarily on his ethnicity then it really IS racist. If a person is given special passes on behavior that the average person would be punished for, based solely on his ethnicity then it IS racist. But, the racism is not coming from those that suggest it. It is coming from that person's belief that he is "owed" special consideration because of his ethnicity.

So, be PC if you wish, but some of us will be honest and speak the obvious. If anyone is offended by the truth, then they must live in a glass house and need to be real careful.
Being truthful does not make one hateful, unless the intent is to hurt. Stating the obvious should not be considered hateful.

The attached clip was a perfect closing argument.

Guest 10-20-2015 09:07 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1132402)
The attached clip was a perfect closing argument.

You know, while that clip is authentic I do not like it. It is out of context and plays to the race.

Having said that.....why in the world should this President be given a pass ?

Have you seen some of the mean vicious George Bush videos ? Are they ok ?

Why is it that this President gets a defense ?

Sort of like Black Lives Matter instead of ALL Lives Matter !!!

What makes this President immune to what others have had to endure ????

I sure hope that CHI will respond since he/she is the most offended on any criticism of this President. He is not alone, I assure you.

Guest 10-20-2015 10:07 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1132422)
You know, while that clip is authentic I do not like it. It is out of context and plays to the race.

Having said that.....why in the world should this President be given a pass ?

Have you seen some of the mean vicious George Bush videos ? Are they ok ?

Why is it that this President gets a defense ?

Sort of like Black Lives Matter instead of ALL Lives Matter !!!

What makes this President immune to what others have had to endure ????

I sure hope that CHI will respond since he/she is the most offended on any criticism of this President. He is not alone, I assure you.

There is criticism and then there is blatant mean spirited hostility. I am OK with the former but offended by the latter. I was not a fan of 43, but when someone threw a shoe at him I was incensed. The Predident of the United States represents the greatest democracy in history. Vile caustic insults degrade us all. If one disagrees with a President state your views with respect to the Office and vote.

Guest 10-20-2015 12:24 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1132474)
There is criticism and then there is blatant mean spirited hostility. I am OK with the former but offended by the latter. I was not a fan of 43, but when someone threw a shoe at him I was incensed. The Predident of the United States represents the greatest democracy in history. Vile caustic insults degrade us all. If one disagrees with a President state your views with respect to the Office and vote.

Most of us do respect the office of the president. It is the current turkey in it's possession that some of us do not care to support.

And I do think there are some who really do think that we should respect and support whoever is in office. And we all know that does not work, right. Want proof? Recall some of the multitudes of swipes and snipes at 'W' Bush.

Nothing more need be stated. And this is not directed at the quoted poster above.

Guest 10-20-2015 12:59 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1132474)
There is criticism and then there is blatant mean spirited hostility. I am OK with the former but offended by the latter. I was not a fan of 43, but when someone threw a shoe at him I was incensed. The Predident of the United States represents the greatest democracy in history. Vile caustic insults degrade us all. If one disagrees with a President state your views with respect to the Office and vote.

OK Chi.....your premise I totally agree with you on. I try very hard to walk the line and try to always give respect, even to the man and not just the office.

The problem I have and we have, and will not beat this to death because it is not something done without its own thread.

This President IS black, and HAS invested himself into the racial conversation on many occasions and done so in an hypocritical manner ("I wont talk about an ongoing investigation while talking about an ongoing racial investigation).

That makes it tough, but that is no excuse for some of the blatant racial slurs made on him making color, rather than his performance or issue the main topic.

Guest 10-20-2015 02:41 PM

Like I said before, I do respect the office/position of president. However, I do not respect the man, in this case Obama. He is no better than me, less experienced and less qualified than me. However, he was elected and I give him his due until he works against the wishes of America and Americans. He does not respect me, so I am not required to respect him. He is NOT deity and NOT the liberal/socialist messiah, even though he is a socialist and ultra radical. He is given special passes and treated as if he is not expected to excel in his job, why? Give me one good reason why he is not held as accountable as his predecessors? Why is he treated like a handicapped child? Why does everyone have to be especially forgiving in regards to his major blunders? If you can give me one good reason, other than his ethnicity, they you are pulling a rabbit out of your behind.

If your only come back is that I am a racist and/or bigot, then you have failed and I am correct.
Am I a bigot? Am I a racist?
I will vote for Ben Carson if he receives the nomination.
I will vote for Fiorina if she receives the nomination.

I will not vote for Hilary. Does that make me a sexist?
But, I will also not vote for Sanders, the socialist.

I am not the racist. Obama is the racist. Obama is receiving benefits due to his ethnicity. Obama is excused from being right or wrong, due to his ethnicity. He is allowed to abuse the power of his position, because of.....

If you think you will put me on the defensive by calling me a racist or bigot, think again. That only works on someone that cares.


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