corporation don't pay taxes. period

That's an interesting, if not ignorant and misguided view. I am sure you are quoting the great libtard Obama.

Welfare IS corporate welfare, they collect it twice. When money is given to the poor by the government, it's used to pay for things, things corporations have to offer. JP Morgan runs the SNAP (foodstamp) cards, Kraft, Tyson, the entire agribusiness profits when 50 million people get "free money" to buy their foods.

No, YOU pay their taxes when you buy their products.

You're right, the customers do. Every customer pays a part of those taxes.

Any and every corporation factors the cost of taxes into the ultimate selling price of their products . Increase corporate income taxes and the corporation will increase their prices . hence it is the ultimate consumer who actually ends up footing the corporate tax bill . This is taught in any beginning economics or finance course .

Eventually corporations will seek to offer their products at the most competitive price and with the largest margin . One way to do so is to manufacture their products in an environment that has lower labor costs .

Another way to enhance corporate income is to sell their products outside of the US and hold their profits from those sales outside of the US . These profits are a major component of the " off-shore corporate profits " that you keep hearing about .
If we the people allowed those off-shore profits to come back into our economy by not subjecting them to additional taxes [ US Taxes ] there would be a huge benefit to our economy . [ Note : these dollars were from manufacturing that took place outside the US and were sold outside the US . They have already been taxed by foreign Nations ] .

Dear Guest: I do not know how old you are but you may want to take a second look at the statistics provided because while the sky may not be falling its listing quite a bit. A billion here a billion there pretty soon your talking about a whole lot of money ...but its OK we can just print more

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Dear guest: Look again tha's what the reference to the FED was all about. I hate corporate welfare as much as you do

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Dear Guests:

Let's begin with the premise that the proper word for taxes, the "t"word connotes "theft" Why is any politician is permitted to steal your earnings?

And early on when America found a bona fide reason to tax it was associated with state government. How did it come to pass that the federal government claimed its right to any % of our income with the added insult of spending our money as they deemed fit? In other words why do taxes (revenue flow to the central government from the states

We have become so accustom to this Byzantine taxing scam that it actually appears normal to us evidently because it is often left unchallenged. I am certain that a portion of the population rich or poor feel an entitlement for this very reason

We cannot have a constructive discussion in this nation until we rediscover our history and the intent of our founders concerning the relationship
between citizen and government

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Jeffrey Williamson: In 1774, the top 1 percent of households got 9.3 percent of income.

America's wealth gap -- in 1776

Let us know what you think?

What? Didn't the gun owners say that about Obama? Yes you did and no guns were taken away. Gun owners bought more and more ammo during the Obama administration but the American people were NOT safer!

Colorado Springs, my home town in a state with open carry suffered 2 mass shootings in less than a month.

Tell me again how more guns will make things better?

Didn't know that is what you meant ..... no foul intended!!!

Wealth envy is a very unbecoming appearance. Corporations get tax breaks, and that is OK with me. Otherwise, since we have the world's highest corporate tax rate, they move overseas. Not the only reason, but one of them. It is very disingenuous to parrot the thoughts of those that try to control your vote by demonizing the wealthy. If not for the wealthy, we would not have the decent lifestyle we enjoy. I do not care how rich someone gets, as long as they do it honestly. Taking the tax breaks provided by the government is honestly. Even the supreme court has stated that no one should pay more taxes than required by law. No only do the rich pay most of the tax revenues taken in by the government, but they also pay a lot of sales taxes. They purchase expensive goods, including jewelry, cars, boats, vacations, and other types of rich lifestyle expenses. Not only do they pay taxes, sales taxes, but they also pay for labor. And the cost of the goods they purchase pays for jobs. Poor people do not hire employees. So, if you take away from the rich, they will either go elsewhere or not hire new employees. Then the economy tanks. I realize that I have put this simply, but sometimes it seems like you are having a conversation with the simple.

It always amazes me to observe those that are hypnotized by a wealthy person that assures you that the rich are evil. I bet they laugh so hard that they have trouble sleeping at night.

The problem with welfare is people get trapped. They can't get off because they lose all benefits and end up working for less. That's why a basic handout of poverty level wages would work. Everyone gets the basics, then it's about moving ahead and working for small luxuries. Suddenly, even a few hours flipping burgers at minimum wage would be worthwhile.

I don't understand the retiree comment. Most of those retirees are super fortunate, savings, pensions, social security. But you missed the point. The future is a jobless economy. It may be 10 years, 20 years, even 50 years, but surely you understand. We can continue to create meaningless jobs, or just provide basic subsistence. I see no other option. A basic income for all would keep the economy moving with all that spending.

How do you measure enough? First, they likely pay lower rates than most. Earned income, money you actually worked for, is the most heavily taxed. Capital gains, investments and such get a major break. In fact, screw up and lose money and you get to deduct it.

But, most importantly, you can't possibly believe that the wealthy fat cats "earned" their income. They basically skim off the labor of others.

In any case, they are not paying enough taxes, at least not compared to what I pay. They may pay more in actual dollars, but what they take from me is far more valuable. What they pay is like a rounding error.

I could argue that corporations shouldn't pay taxes. It only gets passed along in their goods and services.

On the other hand, I could argue we should eliminate the personal income tax. Most people don't actually pay income taxes. It's withheld before they get it and they never actually see the money. It's just paperwork. Why not replace the personal income tax with a "wage tax". A wage tax paid by an employer on wages paid. Realistically, they pay the personal income tax anyway. In fact, they overpay because most people get a refund.

The wage tax approach could be very efficient. Indeed, we could get to the long talked about flat tax. Suddenly, it wouldn't matter about the recipient, rich or poor. No need for personal exemptions, medical deductions, or anything.

Many pay zero tax. More importantly, when you factor in subsidies, it's essentially a negative income tax. US taxpayers subsidising world's biggest fossil fuel companies | Environment | The Guardian