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Guest 02-26-2009 10:29 AM

What matters to me and many others (both parties)
 
is to be able to voice an opinion regarding words said....promises made...VS actions taken or not taken by the POTUS or any other lawmaker (REGARDLESS OF PARTY/RACE/RELIGION/or what ever).

We all know politicians say one thing to get elected. They do what ever they have to do to remain in office....and sometimes in those processes they deliver on something from the vote for me speeches.....NOT VERY OFTEN.

When one says they are going to CHANGE how we do business in Washington....hires all Washington insiders who know all the reasons why things done the way the are will continue...who ignores the most basic opportunity anybody ever had to show there is sincerity in intent...he could have very easily pontificated....there shalt be no pork (which was promised)....but he did not. This is not bashing it is merely making a true statement. New management does not condone what is being done wrong just because it is expedient...."the bail out bill isn't perfect but get it passed"
.....chock full of pork. He has sent a signal to Congress and boy have the picked up on it. Now a new $400 million spending bill is speeding through, once again loaded with pork and earmarks....PLUS allowing increased spending 2009 over 2008....for many projects that should be struck from the bill because they don't work, or they are losers or they have nothing to do with what the government NEEDS to do to keep operating.

It is business as usual....and when business as usual is not nipped in the early days of office....it ain't going to be....it is business as usual.

Me, I am very particular to what a person says they will do...I have this very bad habit from my operating days....if you say it...I EXPECT IT TO BE DONE.

As a business turn around expert or shut the doors if it is truly not recoverable, I expect results from day one. And I do not abide by the ...but it takes time to _ _ _ _ excuses. Nail the simple ones from day one that telegraph things are going to CHANGE.....Obama passing up that opportunity on pork, earmarks and condoning year on year increases in budgeted spending for undeserving projects.....is deserving of comment. He blew a golden opportunity to make a SIGNIFICANT/SERIOUS CHANGE. In fact has instead condone the same old process. Whether by him or the opposition....when they don't deliver on the words....or the needs....they need to be taken to task....NOW....not later.

Washington is still doing business as usual. We the people are not a page one priority. Politics was and still is.

BTK

It is just too simple to say...no pork and mean it.

Guest 02-26-2009 12:37 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 190830)
It's amazing to read the posts here compared to what the vast majority of people think. I know where to come to look for everything wrong with the new administration. Even before we even know if their plans will work.

Check out the post-speech poll reported by CNN...

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/...bama_addr.html

I'd be the first to admit he is a gifter orator.

Guest 02-26-2009 12:46 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 190847)
I have a wife and two kids. That "stimulus" bill of almost $800 billion and with interest will cost over a TRILLION dollars. It will cost over $3000 per person in America. My share is $12000. That TARP bill was another almost $12000 from my pocket. And that is just the beginning of his spending. He wants to have ME (the government) pay for the banks, and then for the interest payments of those who dont pay their mortgage, and then for their principal if they can't pay. I am a working person. I am not "rich" but I will have to pay that $24000 and MORE. When I get to 62 in 7 years there will be no money left in social security because it has been paying to people who never paid and more to people then they did pay (plus Interest). And if they tax "the rich" to pay for it all, I know the "rich" have the power to just pass it on to peeons like me in the form of higher prices for things my family needs. I have scraped and saved my whole life. I will not be able to retire in the villages as I hope to. Now do you know why we express our opinion what is WRONG with the new administration. And don't tell me he is better than the last one. Bush was a MASSIVE spender in Conservative clothing. We have a right to be mad as h--- and we are not going to take it anymore.

A lot of us grew up in the 60's.... remember.... long hair, mistrusted the gov't.... sit ins, protest marches.... tell us when we're 62 there's no $$$$ for soc security and I promise you we'll be back in the streets just like 1968 in Chicago.

Guest 02-27-2009 08:33 AM

Thanks Bucco....your "perfect storm" analogy is right on the mark.

Guest 02-27-2009 09:20 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 190855)
I know it's only supposed to fund the government for the balance of the fiscal year, but an overall 8% increase in spending? 8,500 earmarks?

This is not Democrats or Republicans, although I recognize that the Dems are in control. Both parties all were complicit in passing this thing. If President Obama lets this stand without a veto, and if he then cuts his budget proposal by 8% (which I don't think will happen), all that would do is keep government spending even with this year. And this year was the grossly bloated budget approved last year.

I've written the President imploring him to veto this bill. I hope he does, but I'm surely not holding my breath. These people in Congress live in their own world inside the beltway. We need to bring them back "out here" to get a real job!

The budget can fly through Senate approval without a single Republican vote.... only requires 51 "yeas".

Guest 03-08-2009 09:25 PM

Where's the Fiscal Responsibility?
 
You know.....I worked as an Analyst in the Dept. of Treasury in a certain state for 25 yrs. Amazingly, I saw wasteful spending almost daily. I told my husband years ago, the problem with our budgets was just overspending.
If bloated salaries were frozen, non-essential jobs dissolved, reckless spending stopped, reduction of staff thru attrition, etc, etc., so much money could be saved. AND....that's only at the office and dept. levels.
Starting at the local levels and all the way to the Federal level, the corruption, buddy spending and incompetence is just incredible.
What our government is doing now is just ludicrous and becoming more so everyday.
Wasn't it Michele Obama who said..."for the first time I'm proud to be an American"? Well, let's all think about that statement. Life is changing quickly and we all must demand some explanation. The government has somehow forgotten who they work for.
Wouldn't we like all our Pensions protected as they have bailed out AIG to protect their's.

So.........I'm ready for a locan American Tea Party!

Guest 03-09-2009 07:16 AM

I have been holding off letting my political views known, but now that I am over my 11 posts and no-longer a newbie......
I don't feel that posts about the new Administration are negative, etc. I feel this shows that the residents of TV are VERY well informed and not just agreeing with the padlum the main stream media peddles. They have researched the facts, and that is the funny thing about facts, they tell the TRUTH. If much of this had been put out by the media before the election instead of hidden so they can further their agenda, this administration would not be in power, and yes power is the correct word.
This is anothe of the key reasons that the wife and I decided on TV for our retirement, INFORMED RESIDENTS!!!!

Army Guy


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