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Guest 08-25-2008 07:52 PM

You are known by the company you keep...
 
A valid candidate preference test: "You are known by the company you keep."

I would not want to have anything to do with the infamous company Mr. Obama keeps. Many are anti-American, racist radicals with strong Socialist/Communist predispositions.

Please spare us a President who has kept that sort of company for the majority of his adult life - and yes, his parents and relatives ARE important. They influenced him during all of his PRE-adult life. Be careful not to be so dismissive of these facts.

Guest 08-25-2008 08:32 PM

Re: Do I have this straight?
 
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Posted by Guest
Obama is almost certainly the smarter of the two and has done what is broadly viewed as a great job of running a 21st century political campaign without utilizing negative tactics.
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I am not sure what campaign you have been watching. No, Sen Obama engages in no negativism but his campaign sure does. Blaming Sen McCain's comments for the escalation in Georgia (NOT Sen Obama but his aide...Susan something or other on CNN)....calling various folks racists during the primary (NOT Sen Obama but his campaign)....saying using his name was unfair (NOT Sen Obama but his campaign), etc.
He is using old tactics to run his campaign...use the word CHANGE and keep your hands clean allowing your staff to do the dirty work. He is running at a time when we are in a unpopular war, struggling economy thus ANY Democrat should be winning and using that word. Sen Obama is not the genius you make him out to me but I am sure your measure of intelligence ("Obama is almost certainly the smarter of the two") is right on.

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Ok try this one on for size...one of the most shameful adds I have ever seen.

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/..._party_att.php

Guest 08-25-2008 08:46 PM

Re: Do I have this straight?
 
Cologal: What is so shameful about that ad? No lies there.

Guest 08-25-2008 09:05 PM

It Bears Repeating...
 
We can haggle on until Election Day about which candidate knew whom decades ago, whether one is too old and sick, whether one takes care of his family, how many houses they own, and yadda-yadda. The bottom line decision that we will all have to make is...

If you are satisfied with America as it is and wouldn't be upset if we continued on the same course for another four years--vote for John McCain. If you are willing to take the risks that a younger, less experienced candidate might provide the leadership necessary to begin to create real change--vote for Barack Obama.

I really don't think it gets much more complicated than that.

P.S. The political advisors of both candidates have advised them that negative advertising works. But I sure wish they would begin to concentrate on the issues. I suppose I also wish that at least we could begin to discuss the issues here as well, rather than posting and then arguing about things that have nothing at all to do with the problems facing America and which candidate is more likely to be able to address them.

Guest 08-25-2008 09:07 PM

Re: Do I have this straight?
 
It is a lie that the man in Kenya is Obama's brother. He is at most his half-brother a son of the man who left Obama as a young child.




Guest 08-25-2008 09:08 PM

Re: It Bears Repeating...
 
Quote:

Posted by Guest
We can haggle on until Election Day about which candidate knew whom decades ago, whether one is too old and sick, whether one takes care of his family, how many houses they own, and yadda-yadda. The bottom line decision that we will all have to make is...

If you are satisfied with America as it is and wouldn't be upset if we continued on the same course for another four years--vote for John McCain. If you are willing to take the risks that a younger, less experienced candidate might provide the leadership necessary to begin to create real change--vote for Barack Obama.

I really don't think it gets much more complicated than that.

Great post

Guest 08-25-2008 09:13 PM

Re: It Bears Repeating...
 
Quote:

Posted by Guest
We can haggle on until Election Day about which candidate knew whom decades ago, whether one is too old and sick, whether one takes care of his family, how many houses they own, and yadda-yadda. The bottom line decision that we will all have to make is...

If you are satisfied with America as it is and wouldn't be upset if we continued on the same course for another four years--vote for John McCain. If you are willing to take the risks that a younger, less experienced candidate might provide the leadership necessary to begin to create real change--vote for Barack Obama.

I really don't think it gets much more complicated than that.

P.S. The political advisors of both candidates have advised them that negative advertising works. But I sure wish they would begin to concentrate on the issues. I suppose I also wish that at least we could begin to discuss the issues here as well, rather than posting and then arguing about things that have nothing at all to do with the problems facing America and which candidate is more likely to be able to address them.

Here is somthing I found

http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/20...n-8-years-ago/

Guest 08-26-2008 12:12 AM

Re: Do I have this straight?
 
gfmucci
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I took this on and found the pictures of Obama's family you wanted.

If only I could figure out how to paste them here.

All you have to do is to google Obama's grandmother and there they all are.

Both Grandmothers, One Grandfather, Father and Mother and his sister. If you can't find it let me know I will try to send the link.

Guest 08-26-2008 03:12 AM

Re: Do I have this straight?
 
I saw this horrible article on drudge tonight. How terribly sad. These men are disgusting.
http://cbs4denver.com/investigates/a....2.802827.html

Guest 08-28-2008 05:09 PM

Re: It Bears Repeating...
 
Quote:

Posted by Guest
We can haggle on until Election Day about which candidate knew whom decades ago, whether one is too old and sick, whether one takes care of his family, how many houses they own, and yadda-yadda. The bottom line decision that we will all have to make is...

If you are satisfied with America as it is and wouldn't be upset if we continued on the same course for another four years--vote for John McCain. If you are willing to take the risks that a younger, less experienced candidate might provide the leadership necessary to begin to create real change--vote for Barack Obama.

I really don't think it gets much more complicated than that.

P.S. The political advisors of both candidates have advised them that negative advertising works. But I sure wish they would begin to concentrate on the issues. I suppose I also wish that at least we could begin to discuss the issues here as well, rather than posting and then arguing about things that have nothing at all to do with the problems facing America and which candidate is more likely to be able to address them.

Thank you so much for such a beautiful and articulate post.

Guest 08-28-2008 06:18 PM

Re: Do I have this straight?
 
The favorite mantra of the Dems this season is that McCain is a clone of Bush and to elect him would be "four more years." Yes, there are some similarities in their beliefs (McCaiin is, after all, a conservative)and yes, as the Dems love to point out, "McCain voted with Bush 95% of the time." (All in all, a pretty meaningless stat --- Obama voted with Bush 40% of the time and I doubt if they agree on all that much). But there are a plethora of differences between Bush and McCain. What I consider to be among the greatest failings of Bush was his inability to control runaway spending, especially by not using the veto. McCain, I believe, would be very much a deficit hawk, and would make great use of the veto power, whether the spenders were Dems or GOP.

Guest 08-29-2008 12:46 AM

I'll Tell You One Thing...
 
If either candidate said that their absolute first priorities would be to reinstate PayGo as it applies to all spending bills and that they would would enact really stringent campaign finance reform, they'd get my vote.

I'm not counting on either one saying that. McCain says the Congress has acted like "pigs at the trough", but he says little about how he's going to fix that problem. From what I can understand, Obama is going to finance a plethora of spending programs with savings from not fighting the war in Iraq and taxing the richest 2-3% of Americans. I'd like to see that budget in detail.

Where's Ross Perot when we need him?


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