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MDLNB 01-04-2017 12:53 PM

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You certainly validated my opinion of you, so not surprised you didn't even make an attempt to response

I will answer your questions however. I did not support those Obama actions and I have already mentioned my previous names were Bucco and Rocky123. I recommend you use the search engine on here and you will see quite a few posts by me, and threads begin to say that.

I make no excuses for anyone..and if you do that search I suggested you will find my feelings on Hillary Clinton.

I am not much of a party guy.....I prefer to support good people doing good things for my country.

So, man up...answer my questions or whatever..

Why? What difference does it make to you whether or not I agree with something the president does or doesn't do? It didn't matter to Obama.

Maybe I have become desensified by 8 years of the most incompetent president I have ever known. I'll leave the worrying about what Trump says on Twitter up to you. I don't do Twitter and since Trump is not on the payroll yet, I just don't care.

Sorry if my answer is not up to your specs, but I don't have much time for whiners.

Henryk 01-04-2017 01:12 PM

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What he said was that he has information that others don't have that may cast doubt on whether the Russians were behind the attack.

I don't see where he ever said that he has any proof.

One thing that President-elect Trump has stated is that he's not going to let his enemies know what he's doing.

Wikileaks founder, Julian Assange says that the information that he leaked did not come from the Russians.

I think that a president-elect should tell the truth. If our intelligent agencies are wrong, he can certainly say that. I don't think that he's trying to protect Putin, he simply wants to know exactly what happened beyond any doubt.

In fact if he is going soft on Putin, it may be that he is hoping to ally with Russia in the War on Terror. I would imagine the USA and Russia together could defeat ISIS pretty quickly.

After all, we held our noses and allied with Russia in WW2. If not for that we might all be speaking Japanese right now.

He hasn't shown proof of ANYTHING, never mind Russia.

Henryk 01-04-2017 01:14 PM

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Yes. That was primarily the Republicans who said that there were Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq. We do have a WMD now. It is called Donald J. Trump. He can do great damage to the image of the US, the work against climate change, curbs on Wall Street corruption in DC, women's right to have control over the decisions she makes on her body, and many many other items. You are right us progressives are scared because Donald John Trump has no respect for the vision of the Founding Fathers and their insistence on checks-and-balances. They were keen students of history and knew how much havoc a demagogue can have on government. All I see in Trump is someone who will continue to lie, cheat and steal. But has far more control now to get away with a great deal more of this than he ever has. God help us.

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Henryk 01-04-2017 01:23 PM

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According to him, he knows more about everything than anybody else! He's a moron!


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MDLNB 01-04-2017 01:47 PM

So, you libtards do not believe the same intel agencies when they said there was WMDs in Iraq, but now you believe them when they are reputed to having said that the Russians have hacked our election. And this has less proof than what they gave congress about the WMDs. Liberals are great at this stuff. I think everyone knows who the morons are..............the losers.

Jim007 01-06-2017 11:43 AM

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So, you libtards do not believe the same intel agencies when they said there was WMDs in Iraq, but now you believe them when they are reputed to having said that the Russians have hacked our election. And this has less proof than what they gave congress about the WMDs. Liberals are great at this stuff. I think everyone knows who the morons are..............the losers.



You talk about libtards! You reptards beleive anything trumptard says even if a couple of hours later he denies saying it. Now, it sounds like all you reptards know more about what the Russians are doing than our intelligence community. Trumptard could go on stage nude and say don't you just love my knew clothes, and you reptards would say trumptard, they're absolutely stunning. Once again you made yourself wonderful again. You're a bunch of reptards!


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jebartle 01-06-2017 11:57 AM

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So, you libtards do not believe the same intel agencies when they said there was WMDs in Iraq, but now you believe them when they are reputed to having said that the Russians have hacked our election. And this has less proof than what they gave congress about the WMDs. Liberals are great at this stuff. I think everyone knows who the morons are..............the losers.

sooo, do you discount anything that comes out of the CIA or FBI BUT you believe Julian A. and the Russians????? How do we get back to being Americans first and foremost! The hate that comes out of TOTV is disheartening to say the least. I know there is a light at the end of this tunnel, I just hope it doesn't take 4 years, God help us!

Rockyrd 01-06-2017 12:11 PM

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sooo, do you discount anything that comes out of the CIA or FBI BUT you believe Julian A. and the Russians????? How do we get back to being Americans first and foremost! The hate that comes out of TOTV is disheartening to say the least. I know there is a light at the end of this tunnel, I just hope it doesn't take 4 years, God help us!

Good post.

Listen, Trump's entire life.....all documented clearly.....showed and shows that a choice between HIM and anybody or anything will be made about HIM.

I think your post is great....it is NOT about the United States...it is about how he perceives this reflects on HIM...all his stements reflect that.

This how he is, and has been his entire life.

I, at one time thought...give him a chance...he will grow and maybe, he gets some jobs back..

But, as you say it is disheartening reading support for a President that disses the country without reason. Most adults would discuss this privately face to face rather than reveal the world how he feels about the USA (BAD) Putin (GOOD) Assange (GOOD).

A President, especially being brand new, normally gets the country excited about his plans, but then again this is a man who has never done anything for his country EXCEPT criticize it.


When asked if he was aware that Putin had people killed...Trump response..so what people die in the his country also.

Have you heard him, while carping publicly ever offer a word of encouragement for intelligence services or even to this country.

MDLNB 01-06-2017 12:41 PM

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You talk about libtards! You reptards beleive anything trumptard says even if a couple of hours later he denies saying it. Now, it sounds like all you reptards know more about what the Russians are doing than our intelligence community. Trumptard could go on stage nude and say don't you just love my knew clothes, and you reptards would say trumptard, they're absolutely stunning. Once again you made yourself wonderful again. You're a bunch of reptards!


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Nice try at turning it around when it was your side on here trying to convince everyone that the Intel agencies are 100% correct. But, like I said before you don't believe the same Intel agencies when they said there were WMDs. Make up your mind. I never said that I believed anyone. You are the ones making all the statements of absolutes. The point is that no one disputes what Wikileaks produced regarding the DNC's emails or anything coming from Hillary. SO, stop blaming Trump. The Russians have been hacking for decades, so get over it. I am not championing Putin or Russia. Neither is Trump. He said Putin is a better leader than Obama. So am I. Obama can't be blamed in that regard. He has never received any training and has never had a job that required leadership. Obama is weak, and everyone knows it. It is admirable that you wish to defend him. He needs it. He is weak.

So, you libtards need to quit crying. It's very unbecoming.

MDLNB 01-06-2017 12:43 PM

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Good post.

Listen, Trump's entire life.....all documented clearly.....showed and shows that a choice between HIM and anybody or anything will be made about HIM.

I think your post is great....it is NOT about the United States...it is about how he perceives this reflects on HIM...all his stements reflect that.

This how he is, and has been his entire life.

I, at one time thought...give him a chance...he will grow and maybe, he gets some jobs back..

But, as you say it is disheartening reading support for a President that disses the country without reason. Most adults would discuss this privately face to face rather than reveal the world how he feels about the USA (BAD) Putin (GOOD) Assange (GOOD).

A President, especially being brand new, normally gets the country excited about his plans, but then again this is a man who has never done anything for his country EXCEPT criticize it.


When asked if he was aware that Putin had people killed...Trump response..so what people die in the his country also.

Have you heard him, while carping publicly ever offer a word of encouragement for intelligence services or even to this country.

Is this the best you can do. Trump won, so get over it.

Rockyrd 01-06-2017 12:50 PM

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Nice try at turning it around when it was your side on here trying to convince everyone that the Intel agencies are 100% correct. But, like I said before you don't believe the same Intel agencies when they said there were WMDs. Make up your mind. I never said that I believed anyone. You are the ones making all the statements of absolutes. The point is that no one disputes what Wikileaks produced regarding the DNC's emails or anything coming from Hillary. SO, stop blaming Trump. The Russians have been hacking for decades, so get over it. I am not championing Putin or Russia. Neither is Trump. He said Putin is a better leader than Obama. So am I. Obama can't be blamed in that regard. He has never received any training and has never had a job that required leadership. Obama is weak, and everyone knows it. It is admirable that you wish to defend him. He needs it. He is weak.

So, you libtards need to quit crying. It's very unbecoming.

I certainly do not recall one single post saying what you are citing....none.

Nobody could know, for gosh sakes and anyone who questions something they are not even aware of is a fool.

Nope...the story is, and has been..one thing...

President Elect of the United States publicly for international coverage, mocking the United States intelligence community, prior to even being briefed. Then following it up by

A. telling the country to "move on" instead of investigating the hacks

B. Suggesting, not only do we move on, but we should discuss prior sanctions placed on Russia for actions and to support our friends.

C. Speaking positively of Putin and Assange in subsequent tweets.


There would be no story had he acted like an adult and after being briefed asked or questioned in person, face to face, man to man instead of he perceiving it as something "mean" about HIM. Country be damned.

MDLNB 01-06-2017 01:00 PM

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I certainly do not recall one single post saying what you are citing....none.

Nobody could know, for gosh sakes and anyone who questions something they are not even aware of is a fool.

Nope...the story is, and has been..one thing...

President Elect of the United States publicly for international coverage, mocking the United States intelligence community, prior to even being briefed. Then following it up by

A. telling the country to "move on" instead of investigating the hacks

B. Suggesting, not only do we move on, but we should discuss prior sanctions placed on Russia for actions and to support our friends.

C. Speaking positively of Putin and Assange in subsequent tweets.


There would be no story had he acted like an adult and after being briefed asked or questioned in person, face to face, man to man instead of he perceiving it as something "mean" about HIM. Country be damned.

Wow, I could almost see the tears in that post. If I press you a bit more, might you even modify your comment to reflect that Trump did not say anything positive about Putin or "Assange" but just said what the result was that we had stuff revealed that should have been discovered by the press? Or, instead of saying that Trump was friends with Putin, that he said Putin was a better leader than Obama? Which is true, of course. It won't be long before you finally admit that you are lying about what Trump said. Naw.......you will change the subject, just like liberals always do.

rubicon 01-06-2017 01:21 PM

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YOU don't KNOW for a FACT that ANY of that is true.

The government, through the media...lies...a LOT.

I said the event was written twice . Apparently no one knows for sure that is alive and willing to talk about it.

However we have learned that Assad had hidden his cache of poisons well until he used them on his was able to successfully hide people. We know Saddam was able to successfully hide aircraft in the desert and we know that Saddam openly used chemical weapon against the Kurds We know WMD can fit in a military truck and be transported easily.

All I am suggesting is that Saddam had plenty of time to moved every trace of his WMD given Bush's delay in moving forward with his plan to go into Iraq .

Washington people are forced to say no WMD because it is difficult to disprove a negative

Personal Best Regards

MDLNB 01-06-2017 01:50 PM

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I said the event was written twice . Apparently no one knows for sure that is alive and willing to talk about it.

However we have learned that Assad had hidden his cache of poisons well until he used them on his was able to successfully hide people. We know Saddam was able to successfully hide aircraft in the desert and we know that Saddam openly used chemical weapon against the Kurds We know WMD can fit in a military truck and be transported easily.

All I am suggesting is that Saddam had plenty of time to moved every trace of his WMD given Bush's delay in moving forward with his plan to go into Iraq .

Washington people are forced to say no WMD because it is difficult to disprove a negative

Personal Best Regards

Exactly. The one question that no liberal has been able to answer, other than denial is; if there were no WMDs in Iraq, how do they explain away those thousands of bodies in mass graves of people killed by gas?

Bog99 01-09-2017 06:32 AM

We can eliminate 90% of the foolishness we call "politics" by following these first principles of Liberty:


"Liberty" is a poetic term for property rights.

Therefore there are only TWO KINDS OF LAWS:

- those that protect property rights,

- and those that attack property rights.

"Have the government do unto others as you'd have the government do unto you."

Bog99 01-09-2017 07:09 AM

We can eliminate 90% of the foolishness we call "politics"
 
We can eliminate 90% of the foolishness we call "politics" by following these first principles of Liberty:


"Liberty" is a poetic term for property rights.

Therefore there are only TWO KINDS OF LAWS:

- those that protect property rights,

- and those that attack property rights.

"Have the government do unto others and their property as you'd have the government do unto you, and your property."

RichLou 01-11-2017 06:29 AM

Sick of the negative comments.
 
Give the guy a chance. Be positive. That is the answer to happiness.

hypocritehunter 01-11-2017 06:38 AM

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I said the event was written twice . Apparently no one knows for sure that is alive and willing to talk about it.

However we have learned that Assad had hidden his cache of poisons well until he used them on his was able to successfully hide people. We know Saddam was able to successfully hide aircraft in the desert and we know that Saddam openly used chemical weapon against the Kurds We know WMD can fit in a military truck and be transported easily.

All I am suggesting is that Saddam had plenty of time to moved every trace of his WMD given Bush's delay in moving forward with his plan to go into Iraq .

Washington people are forced to say no WMD because it is difficult to disprove a negative

Personal Best Regards


What a ridiculous post. Even George Bush and Dick Cheney admit there were no weapons of mass destruction. The only idiot saying otherwise is Sean Hannity and we all know what a nutjob he is.

jimbo2012 01-11-2017 07:13 AM

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What a ridiculous post. Even George Bush and Dick Cheney admit there were no weapons of mass destruction. The only idiot saying otherwise is Sean Hannity and we all know what a nutjob he is.


You sure about that, hypocritehunter is a wingnut troll

Don Baldwin 01-11-2017 07:26 AM

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I said the event was written twice . Apparently no one knows for sure that is alive and willing to talk about it.

However we have learned that Assad had hidden his cache of poisons well until he used them on his was able to successfully hide people. We know Saddam was able to successfully hide aircraft in the desert and we know that Saddam openly used chemical weapon against the Kurds We know WMD can fit in a military truck and be transported easily.

All I am suggesting is that Saddam had plenty of time to moved every trace of his WMD given Bush's delay in moving forward with his plan to go into Iraq .

Washington people are forced to say no WMD because it is difficult to disprove a negative

Personal Best Regards

You don't KNOW that ANY of that was true...you saw it on the "news" and the "news" is often faked.

Maybe...and maybe not. Again, you heard it on the "news".

Unless you're standing there watching...you don't KNOW what happened. You "know" what you were told by someone else. What agenda could they have?

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Exactly. The one question that no liberal has been able to answer, other than denial is; if there were no WMDs in Iraq, how do they explain away those thousands of bodies in mass graves of people killed by gas?

Again...you saw bodies on the "news"...it could be true or it could be false. The government/media lies a lot.

We really can't know what is true and what isn't.

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What a ridiculous post. Even George Bush and Dick Cheney admit there were no weapons of mass destruction. The only idiot saying otherwise is Sean Hannity and we all know what a nutjob he is.

In this we agree...he's an obvious shill.

MDLNB 01-11-2017 01:35 PM

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What a ridiculous post. Even George Bush and Dick Cheney admit there were no weapons of mass destruction. The only idiot saying otherwise is Sean Hannity and we all know what a nutjob he is.


I don't care what Bush or Cheney says now. I know what I saw when I was in Iraq. Thousands of bodies killed by gas. What would be your conclusion?

Don Baldwin 01-11-2017 03:17 PM

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I don't care what Bush or Cheney says now. I know what I saw when I was in Iraq. Thousands of bodies killed by gas. What would be your conclusion?

Bullsh!t...you weren't there when the Kurds "supposedly" got gassed...

"In 1988 Iraq turned its chemical weapons on Iraqi Kurds in the north of the country. Some Kurdish guerrilla forces had joined the Iranian offensive. On 16 March 1988, Iraq dropped bombs containing mustard gas, Sarin and Tabun on the Kurdish city of Halabja."

The war didn't start until 1991.

My conclusion is you're making it up.

MDLNB 01-11-2017 05:05 PM

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Bullsh!t...you weren't there when the Kurds "supposedly" got gassed...

"In 1988 Iraq turned its chemical weapons on Iraqi Kurds in the north of the country. Some Kurdish guerrilla forces had joined the Iranian offensive. On 16 March 1988, Iraq dropped bombs containing mustard gas, Sarin and Tabun on the Kurdish city of Halabja."

The war didn't start until 1991.

My conclusion is you're making it up.

Did I say I was there when it happened? I can't see anywhere in my comment where I said I was there when it happened.

The mass graves were unearthed and thousands of bodies were revealed, having been gassed. I asked a simple question; what conclusion would you derive from this information.

Don Baldwin 01-11-2017 05:49 PM

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Did I say I was there when it happened? I can't see anywhere in my comment where I said I was there when it happened.

The mass graves were unearthed and thousands of bodies were revealed, having been gassed. I asked a simple question; what conclusion would you derive from this information.

How do...YOU...KNOW...they were gassed?

You don't. You heard that. They could have been physically choked, banged in the head, starved, anything. They were in the ground for 3 years...hard to tell exactly how they died.

Topspinmo 01-11-2017 07:11 PM

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Will Trump inform us Tuesday or Wednesday about his proof that Russian hack did not occur? Should a pres. elect choose to protect Putin while criticising US agencies that are here to protect all of us including him????

Amazing the DNC got hacked and all sudden it awful. Yea, awful that their dirty tricks got shown for everybody to see and now their not squeaky clean anymore (like they ever was!!). EVERY COUNTRY hacks (including us). how do you think China get all the airplanes that looks just like ours. EVEN North Korea hacks and 99% of the country don't even have electricity. This is not New Billy boy had big problem in NM with the Chinese stealing military secrets.

Where is the hearing into the DNC for burning old Bernie to the ground and pushing Hilary to top when she wasn't leading him?. where's the hearings on the DNC giving Hilary the debate questions before the debate? Now lets talk about throwing an election! Crickets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MDLNB 01-11-2017 07:14 PM

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How do...YOU...KNOW...they were gassed?

You don't. You heard that. They could have been physically choked, banged in the head, starved, anything. They were in the ground for 3 years...hard to tell exactly how they died.

Ok, so our fellow military members were all lying, right? Is everything a conspiracy to you? I also saw a fuel tanker truck half full of gold bullion. Not that this has anything to do with it, or the subject. But, it seems that you are indicating by your denial that you don't believe that I was in Baghdad in 2003. I've been in one of Sadaam's palaces also.

Forget it. You just enjoy arguing, no matter what subject.

Don Baldwin 01-12-2017 06:15 AM

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Ok, so our fellow military members were all lying, right? Is everything a conspiracy to you? I also saw a fuel tanker truck half full of gold bullion. Not that this has anything to do with it, or the subject. But, it seems that you are indicating by your denial that you don't believe that I was in Baghdad in 2003. I've been in one of Sadaam's palaces also.

Forget it. You just enjoy arguing, no matter what subject.

Maybe...they've lied before. You trust them to always be truthful and honest? You're a fool if you do. The "military" has gone as far as EXPERIMENTING on people without their knowledge. They do/say a LOT for "their" agenda.

I'm NOT questioning that you were there. But you saw bodies that had been buried since 1988...15 years...and you BELIEVED the propaganda stories that they were gassed. Even though there is NO WAY to tell after all that time HOW they died.

I only argue when someone talks sh!t...

And you're "half full" tanker truck of gold bullion...well that's bullsh!t too. Water weighs 62 pounds a cubic foot...gold weighs 1,206 lbs per cubic foot. That's almost 20X heavier. A small tanker truck holds 3,000 gallons, that's 400 cubic feet. Half that, 200 cubic feet of gold weighs 241,200. There isn't a tanker truck made that can carry 241,200 lbs when it's designed to carry 25,000 lbs. So...your STORY about a tanker truck half full of gold bullion is ALSO bullsh!t.

Stop TRYING to lie to me...I'm too smart for you.

YOU may believe the government propaganda...I do not. Because I'm not so easily fooled. I was in the military too and I KNOW for a FACT that much of what we "hear" is NOT the truth. It's propaganda. You learn things when you work at the headquarters level. You see how "facts" are "massaged" to fit the narrative.

How about the stories of the Kuwaiti babies being tossed about and killed by the invading Iraqi's that wasn't true?

Governments lie to advance their agenda...remember that.

MDLNB 01-12-2017 06:46 AM

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Maybe...they've lied before. You trust them to always be truthful and honest? You're a fool if you do. The "military" has gone as far as EXPERIMENTING on people without their knowledge. They do/say a LOT for "their" agenda.

I'm NOT questioning that you were there. But you saw bodies that had been buried since 1988...15 years...and you BELIEVED the propaganda stories that they were gassed. Even though there is NO WAY to tell after all that time HOW they died.

I only argue when someone talks sh!t...

And you're "half full" tanker truck of gold bullion...well that's bullsh!t too. Water weighs 62 pounds a cubic foot...gold weighs 1,206 lbs per cubic foot. That's almost 20X heavier. A small tanker truck holds 3,000 gallons, that's 400 cubic feet. Half that, 200 cubic feet of gold weighs 241,200. There isn't a tanker truck made that can carry 241,200 lbs when it's designed to carry 25,000 lbs. So...your STORY about a tanker truck half full of gold bullion is ALSO bullsh!t.

Stop TRYING to lie to me...I'm too smart for you.

YOU may believe the government propaganda...I do not. Because I'm not so easily fooled. I was in the military too and I KNOW for a FACT that much of what we "hear" is NOT the truth. It's propaganda. You learn things when you work at the headquarters level. You see how "facts" are "massaged" to fit the narrative.

How about the stories of the Kuwaiti babies being tossed about and killed by the invading Iraqi's that wasn't true?

Governments lie to advance their agenda...remember that.

Friend, you do need help. Seek help, and I mean that with the best intention, not being derisive. You are very smart but very bitter and miserable. You will not live long with your current mindset.

Don Baldwin 01-12-2017 07:12 AM

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Friend, you do need help. Seek help, and I mean that with the best intention, not being derisive. You are very smart but very bitter and miserable. You will not live long with your current mindset.

My "problem", my "bitterness" is because I actually KNOW first hand about many of the deliberate LIES told by the government and spread by the media. I mean...I was THERE, at headquarters, participating in the planning. When the "news" came out...it was fabricated propaganda.

Do you REALLY think government propaganda ended with the fall of the Nazi's? Governments STOPPED lying to their people? Ah...ignorance...it truly is bliss.

My problem is...I know...and once you know something, you can't "unknow" it, and it affects your future thinking.

The government lies and women/minorities are destroying the country with lowered standards and quotas.

Those are pretty much my only "problems" I rant about. I live in paradise, surrounded by white people...what could be better? It's why I moved here. Hopefully, this is one of the last places to fall to diversity. Keep those prices high and shun them when you see them...it's our only hope to keeping our white oasis, our paradise. If we don't, it becomes just another Leesburg or Wildwood. Gritty, grimy, and dangerous.

Compare main street here...99% white...to ANY diversified city of almost 160,000 and tell me WHAT besides the demographics makes them so different.

Yes, a tangent...but you "asked".


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