While a long shot for sure ...I KNOW that you know VK that this President does not even talk to his own party in congress...it has been discussed on Morning Joe more than once. His party is going to be under pressure...he has allowed, and this is my opinion, this congress to waffle...no leadership whatsoever. As I said, I KNOW that you have heard the same thing...he is in his world playing and using the country as a pawn in his little political game.

But you are correct...it is not something that is likely but I spoke to a number of political types in Tampa yesterday and today and the Democrats are not swooning any longer for sure.

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....I'm guessing there are a whole lot of people like Mrs. Kahuna and me--people who voted for Obama and even contributed to his campaign in 2008--who won't be voting for him in November.

I'd like to get enthused about the prospects that things will change in the country as the result of the fall elections. There will be some pushes and pulls in the Congress. The GOP might even get a majority in both he House and the Senate. But they won't get a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate. The likely result is that the Democrats will continue to frustrate the legislative process with purely politically-driven maneuvers. Instead of the anti-Obama moves we've seen from the GOP, it'll become anti-Romney, anti-Republican.

I wish I could project, in my own mind anyway, Mitt Romney being such a strong and compelling leader that he will be able to lead the country, maneuver the Congress to accomplish something, regain our status as a voice in the world that must be listened to.

While I'll vote for him, I can't project him into that kind of leadership role. I only hope that I'm as wrong with Romney as I was with Obama four years ago.

Well, for one time only I will say I told you so on Obama in 2008.....a bigger phoney we have never had in this high political arena !!!

However, your point on Romney is fair. I couldnt project Reagan either to be quite frank..

What I DO KNOW is that no matter who wins the other party will resist him in congress. If it is Romney, he will need to immediately forge some kind of partnerships with the Democrats, hopefully people not of the Pelosi, Reid, Frank ilk in order to get anything done.

I do not think that Obama has a snowballs chance in anything to forge those kind of things with the Republicans. Not all his fault, but this guy has burned all his bridges to get political gains. He has tried..yep tried..from day one to put the Republicans in a bad light (and if you want I will be glad to give you a list of things he did the first two years to do that) and the folks still voted in the Republicans to congress. If he gets reelected he better have control of both houses.

This is so obviously in response to Florida purging illegals off of the voter registration. The next step will be an executive order followup for them to vote.

It will be the congressman and senators who will feel the backlash back home.

The tyrant in the white house, "didn't ask for an argument".

buggyone: Just so you know I watch Fox News but I also watch other news casts from NBC, CBS, ABC etc. I read the Wall Street Journal and anyone familar with it understands that their point of view is primarily how political activity affects the market and hence people's investments. I subscribe to various newletters etc etc etc. To suggest that the only basis for someone to use chavez-esque, amateur, dictator backdoor assualt and fiat singly because they watch Fox News is as liberals are fond of saying "disingenious" and short sighted to suggest that people limit their views based on Fox News.
What you didn't say and what I believe to be true is that these terms accurately describe this artful dodger.

You are far too intelligent to actually believe your above-mentioned post but I congratulate you on a good college try. Finally given the poor character of Obama I am surprised that you would throw your support behind him

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[QUOTE=Guest;507041]buggyone: Just so you know I watch Fox News but I also watch other news casts from NBC, CBS, ABC etc. I read the Wall Street Journal and anyone familar with it understands that their point of view is primarily how political activity affects the market and hence people's investments. I subscribe to various newletters etc etc etc. To suggest that the only basis for someone to use chavez-esque, amateur, dictator backdoor assualt and fiat singly because they watch Fox News is as liberals are fond of saying "disingenious" and short sighted to suggest that people limit their views based on Fox News.
What you didn't say and what I believe to be true is that these terms accurately describe this artful dodger.


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Well, Rubicon, I have heard all these words on the rare occasions I have FOX News turned on. I do like the local FOX because I think their weather reporting is the best we have in the area. Yes, I do believe the posters who use those words are merely parrots without any original thought of their own.
I am not going to get goaded into an arguement about that, though. It was hilarious yesterday when the local FOX commentator had a Latino attorney on to deride the Executive Order to say it was illegal. The attorney praised it and said it was completely legal and a great move for the President to make. The commentator was actually stammering in trying to get the attorney to say words that Fox wanted to hear - they never came!

I am glad to see you are such a news hound. Perhaps you saw in this morinings Daily Sun that Mitt Romney had to back off his tough immigration stance due to President Obama's Executive Order. This is causing a big problem for the Republicans and they are flummoxed at this time. I wonder what they will try to do in response to the Executive Order.

Excellent point, the answer is there no benefit to legal Americans, he thinks he is the President of the world, remember he has at least two relatives here illegally. I guess he thinks it is a matter of fairness for NON Americans!

[quote=buggyone;507082]Buggy, the only reason you "accuse" people of getting info from FOX News is to demean the poster in an allusion to being some sort of mindless dolt who would have no clue otherwise.

The idea that anyone would have to defend watching the most watched cable new network on television to you is ludicrous anyway.

You get your ideas and false conclusions from some of the most odious left wing rags and broadcasts that man can devise............ (how did that feel)

I just said that to make a point, that your intentions in doing what you do in this regard is to hurt. I'm just saying.

How many more ways can Mitt Romney say nothing about reversing President Obama's cabinet-level directive on immigration? First he said he would veto the bill if passed by congress if he were president, then he said he would repeal the law when president. Today on "Face the Nation" Bob Scheiffer asked him three times if he would repeal it. Here is how he avoided the question again.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1603549.html


http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.co...reverse-obamas

Vice Presidential hopeful Tim Pawlenty flays President Obama for failing to pass the Dream Act through congress, on ABC's This Week today. Does Pawlenty believe the GOP was wrong to block it in the senate?

Frankly, Romney was right on !!!!!

This "stunt" will be reversed or changed dramatically no matter who is elected, and there are yet to be any "rules" of his stunt announcement. It was a great political stunt, that I will admit, but that is what it is. It is simply ANOTHER political move using our country as a toy to advance a political plan.

He totally ignored the issue for years.....and no matter how inept congress may be, and they are, he is the President and needs to supply leadership. Both sides in congress are blocking each other at every turn and this man does not even talk to his own party.

It is a stunt, and except for those he aimed it at, it will and is being seen as such.

Why folks take pride, and you actually are not seeing much of that except for those who are party trolls , in such an action is something that is beyond me and most others of any import. Most are not even discussing it as they know full well why it was done and it just lessens any respect left for this man.

To do this in an election year for no apparent reason, other than "its the right thing to do" is being treated as it should be....a stunt that is again using people. I suppose it just became the "right thing to do" !!!

still waiting for the Obama supporters reply to why they think this amnesty vote buying charade is a good deal for America?

Same question raised in several threads by some of us and the same eerie silence. Must be on the do not discuss or answer list. Or the responses have not been distributed yet!

Or it is the continuation of as long as Obama did it, said it....it is OK.

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btk

The only "positive" was by a poster who suggested it would be great for the Villages in that they would know that the landscapers and folk working with the concrete would show up for work.

An extremely racial remark, and a great example of profiling but thus far the only comment that allowed something positive can come out of it.

The waiting is the hardest part....:doh:

[quote=buggyone;507082]buggyone: Obama's stunt has created a big problem for both Republicans and Democrats because Obama has flummoxed them all but the biggest loser is going to be Obama himself. Do you believe as a Democrat Senator or Congressman that you would have any respect or confidence in a guy that governs by fiat in a Chavez-esque manner? Yes I used those Fox Noise two words again, except Chavez-esque is mine and fiat is used by most news outlets Obama's own party is turning on him .

[quote=rubicon;507148]Yes, definitely Democrat Senators or Congressmen will have a lot of respect for this President who knows how to get things done when a Tea Party-esque House will not do any compromising and is mule stubborn.

I am happy you are able to drive around in your Fiat and hope that Chavez gives you all the gasoline you need for coining a term.