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Guest 08-12-2012 06:45 AM

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Sure...I know all about "Free Speech". I practice it on a daily basis.

I just find it very hard to understand how a seemingly intelligent person would find 60 seconds of complete falsehoods "powerful"...that's all.

Please explain what in the ad is a lie? Joe Soptik lost his job, his wife died of cancer. What is untrue in that ad?

Guest 08-12-2012 06:57 AM

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Please explain what in the ad is a lie? Joe Soptik lost his job, his wife died of cancer. What is untrue in that ad?

It has nothing to do with the presidential election whatsoever.

Bain capital rescued a company, kept them employed and afloat for years afterward. The as has nothing to do with the reality of the situation.

This mill was one part of a large company that Bain rescued that is alive and well because of Bain and employs thousands.

The woman spoken of has nothing to do with the company, nor has anything to do with having insurance or lack of

The man in the campaign has met and is on a working basis with the Obama campaign which they said was not true.

You can lie by omission and comission. This covers it all.

Guest 08-12-2012 10:05 AM

Well You Didn't Build It--Oops
 


Well you didn't build it, I did.

You know that Field of Dreams in Iowa well you didn't build it, I did

You know the Internet well Al Gore didn't build it, I did

You know that guy ,Osama bin Laden, that was was killed in Pakistan the Navy Seals didn't do it, I did

You know this guy that claims to have built Bain Capital, well he didn't build it I did....wait oops:oops:

Guest 08-12-2012 11:04 AM

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1999 (EARLY) Romney leaves Bain Capital <---- Stopped reading when I got to this part. That is when I was certain the entire posting was rubbish.

Unlike you, I will not attempt to paraphrase - instead you can choose to educate yourself - or not....

When did Romney leave Bain? (Updated) - POLITICO.com

It is pretty obvious why Rmoney refuses to release his returns.

Politico is lying, as any good left wing rag would, when speaking about this issue.

Politico knows darn well as confirmed by multiple sources that Romney left Bain management in '99 in any decision making capacity, but only held financial interests after that.

There a famous quote from Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf that this constant drumming on Bain Capital brings to mind.

"But the most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly and with unflagging attention. It must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over. Here, as so often in this world, persistence is the first and most important requirement for success."

Hitler's minion, Dr. Goebbels, is credited with another applicable thought;

"Repeat a lie often enough and it will believed"

Guest 08-12-2012 11:38 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 538827)
Politico is lying, as any good left wing rag would, when speaking about this issue.

Politico knows darn well as confirmed by multiple sources that Romney left Bain management in '99 in any decision making capacity, but only held financial interests after that.

There a famous quote from Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf that this constant drumming on Bain Capital brings to mind.

"But the most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly and with unflagging attention. It must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over. Here, as so often in this world, persistence is the first and most important requirement for success."

Hitler's minion, Dr. Goebbels, is credited with another applicable thought;

"Repeat a lie often enough and it will believed"

So why do documents filed with Securities and Exchange Commission after 1999 list Mitt Romney as Bain Capital's sole stockholder, Chairman of the Board, CEO, and President, and show that Romney earned at least $100,000 as a Bain Capital "executive" in 2001 and 2002? Hopefully, this is what the SEC is investigating and any charges could be felonious.


http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/e...jhI/story.html

Guest 08-12-2012 11:49 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 538868)
So why do documents filed with Securities and Exchange Commission after 1999 list Mitt Romney as Bain Capital's sole stockholder, Chairman of the Board, CEO, and President, and show that Romney earned at least $100,000 as a Bain Capital "executive" in 2001 and 2002? Hopefully, this is what the SEC is investigating and any charges could be felonious.


Did Mitt Romney approve of Bain Capital&rsquo;s practices after 1999? - Editorials - The Boston Globe

1. The link you supplied is a blog and opnion piece and makes no mention of any impending or discussion of any "investigation" so surely would appreciate a link to validate this "investigation !

2. A search of the Securities and Exchange commisssion website shows no investigation or discussion of such...thus supplying the source would help since I like to deal with facts.

3. If you even google this, you will get nothing but left leaning bloggers on forums like this talking about it but no facts.

Guest 08-12-2012 12:38 PM

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Well you didn't build it, I did.

You know that Field of Dreams in Iowa well you didn't build it, I did

You know the Internet well Al Gore didn't build it, I did

You know that guy ,Osama bin Laden, that was was killed in Pakistan the Navy Seals didn't do it, I did

You know this guy that claims to have built Bain Capital, well he didn't build it I did....wait oops:oops:

You are a very accomplished individual.

Guest 08-12-2012 12:43 PM

I said over and over and over again.....this dance is gonna be a drag. :icon_wink:

Guest 08-12-2012 02:55 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 538882)
1. The link you supplied is a blog and opnion piece and makes no mention of any impending or discussion of any "investigation" so surely would appreciate a link to validate this "investigation !

2. A search of the Securities and Exchange commisssion website shows no investigation or discussion of such...thus supplying the source would help since I like to deal with facts.

3. If you even google this, you will get nothing but left leaning bloggers on forums like this talking about it but no facts.

The truth doesn't matter to leftists, it's totally about the innuendo.

Thanks for the work in squashing the latest diversionary lies.

Guest 08-12-2012 03:01 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 539056)
The truth doesn't matter to leftists, it's totally about the innuendo.

Thanks for the work in squashing the latest diversionary lies.

You know what...so many of them come on here and just "say stuff" much of whichis just flat out false but it appears on one of "the select" websites or as I know they get these tweets during the day with the party line.

THEN.....all of them come on after and rave about it and they have no idea whatsoever of what they are talking about so I am just not going to let them just say stuff.

BUT, the frustrating thing is I do not think they care one iota. It is as if they were getting paid to insure that the company line is on here and never mind discussion on it or even if it is true...just say it !

These people will vote.....without a clue.

A poster a few days ago on a thread where the auto bailout came up DID NOT KNOW THAT THERE WAS AN ALTERNATIVE to the bail out. Did not even know that they could have gone bankrupt and been reorganized. The poster was under the impression if Obama had not bailed them out..they would all be out of work period !

Guest 08-12-2012 03:24 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 539062)
You know what...so many of them come on here and just "say stuff" much of whichis just flat out false but it appears on one of "the select" websites or as I know they get these tweets during the day with the party line.

THEN.....all of them come on after and rave about it and they have no idea whatsoever of what they are talking about so I am just not going to let them just say stuff.

BUT, the frustrating thing is I do not think they care one iota. It is as if they were getting paid to insure that the company line is on here and never mind discussion on it or even if it is true...just say it !

These people will vote.....without a clue.

A poster a few days ago on a thread where the auto bailout came up DID NOT KNOW THAT THERE WAS AN ALTERNATIVE to the bail out. Did not even know that they could have gone bankrupt and been reorganized. The poster was under the impression if Obama had not bailed them out..they would all be out of work period !

Exactly right. I posted during a past discussion on these auto company bailouts that it was to save the unions (reliable Democrat voters) and not so much the companies itself.

The companies would either have survived the reorganization or not. If they were able to work out a deal with the unions and cut back on their costs and reorganize their debt, they could survive, albeit maybe in a smaller footprint.

There is much success in the auto industry in this country, but it's mainly the non-union plants where this was so. These companies would have swiftly filled the vacuum created if GM or Chrysler had actually crashed and burned.

The decline of unionized labor is of great concern to Democrats in pure political concern.

My private feelings and lifetime support of private sector unions have nothing to do with the truth of my above statements.

Guest 08-12-2012 03:53 PM

I really like the one poster who said something like if you google Romney and Bain Capital, the only things that show up will be from left leaning sources. That seems a little out there that all the sources showing Romney's term with Bain Capital are from left leaning sources.

That is sort of like saying a big chicken dinner is always from KFC with no other alternatives ever to be discussed.

Guest 08-12-2012 04:02 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 538868)
So why do documents filed with Securities and Exchange Commission after 1999 list Mitt Romney as Bain Capital's sole stockholder, Chairman of the Board, CEO, and President, and show that Romney earned at least $100,000 as a Bain Capital "executive" in 2001 and 2002? Hopefully, this is what the SEC is investigating and any charges could be felonious.


Did Mitt Romney approve of Bain Capital&rsquo;s practices after 1999? - Editorials - The Boston Globe

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Posted by Guest (Post 538882)
1. The link you supplied is a blog and opnion piece and makes no mention of any impending or discussion of any "investigation" so surely would appreciate a link to validate this "investigation !

2. A search of the Securities and Exchange commisssion website shows no investigation or discussion of such...thus supplying the source would help since I like to deal with facts.

3. If you even google this, you will get nothing but left leaning bloggers on forums like this talking about it but no facts.

The link I supplied is from a Boston Globe editorial. Do you think the Globe is making this stuff up? This is Mitt Romney's hometown newspaper, the town where he lived his whole adult life, where he raised his five sons, where he was deacon of his church, where he was the governor of the state. Why would they knowingly publish false information about Romney?

My post said that "hopefully", as in I hope, there would be an investigation. I never said there is an investigation. A knowledgeable poster said on another thread that what has been alleged that Romney did is worse than what Martha Stewart served time for doing.

This questionable activity is not to be confused with the investigation requested by three Congressmen to The Justice and Labor Departments involving Mitt Romney's 20 to 100 million dollar IRA. This could be the October surprise that people are expecting.

Guest 08-12-2012 04:19 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 539097)
The link I supplied is from a Boston Globe editorial. Do you think the Globe is making this stuff up? This is Mitt Romney's hometown newspaper, the town where he lived his whole adult life, where he raised his five sons, where he was deacon of his church, where he was the governor of the state. Why would they knowingly publish false information about Romney?

My post said that "hopefully", as in I hope, there would be an investigation. I never said there is an investigation. A knowledgeable poster said on another thread that what has been alleged that Romney did is worse than what Martha Stewart served time for doing.

This questionable activity is not to be confused with the investigation requested by three Congressmen to The Justice and Labor Departments involving Mitt Romney's 20 to 100 million dollar IRA. This could be the October surprise that people are expecting.

It was an opinion piece so YES I do think it was made up as it was the writers opinion who never said there WAS an investigation at all

You know, I am aware what you dont want is any advice but here is some.....if you REALLY care about the country, no matter your party affliation, if you REALLY care then start investigating the issues and not the people. If you are interested in simply destroying people, then have a go. You will not find any dirt on Romney no matter how hard you and others want to scream about it.

Start concentrating on the issues facing the country....this destruction of people is well beneath any of us in my opinion and your effort to do so is just so ineffective. If your values are of votes instead of actual values, that I suppose is your right...go to it but at least begin to stick with facts.

I, for one, am sick of the ads, etc. It is so much an anchor on this country to have this stuff going on. Just discuss issues

This is what you said "Hopefully, this is what the SEC is investigating and any charges could be felonious." All good Obamites practice the art of insinuation and implication....a lot easier than facts ! See,the word IS implies that there is an investigation which you knew not to be the case !

Guest 08-12-2012 04:23 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 539107)
It was an opinion piece so YES I do think it was made up as it was the writers opinion who never said there WAS an investigation at all

You know, I am aware what you dont want is any advice but here is some.....if you REALLY care about the country, no matter your party affliation, if you REALLY care then start investigating the issues and not the people. If you are interested in simply destroying people, then have a go. You will not find any dirt on Romney no matter how hard you and others want to scream about it.

Start concentrating on the issues facing the country....this destruction of people is well beneath any of us in my opinion and your effort to do so is just so ineffective. If your values are of votes instead of actual values, that I suppose is your right...go to it but at least begin to stick with facts.

I, for one, am sick of the ads, etc. It is so much an anchor on this country to have this stuff going on. Just discuss issues

This is what you said "Hopefully, this is what the SEC is investigating and any charges could be felonious." All good Obamites practice the art of insinuation and implication....a lot easier than facts ! See,the word IS implies that there is an investigation which you knew not to be the case !

I don't know it's not the case, and neither do you.


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