How does that work?

You need to be convicted. Unless we all agree that words mean what you want to them to mean. It's like calling a bogey a Village Par.

Not true, and your analogy is totally apples and oranges.

But, she IS a felon. The Clintons committed a felony, grand larceny when they stole from the white house. They admitted their guilt by paying restitution. Therefore, they ARE felons.

If ignorance is bliss, you got it made.

Once again,
According to top ethics lawyers, it’s at least debatable -- and at worst hyperbolic -- to say the Clintons "stole" the items. A congressional investigation found poor tracking of ownership and final disposition of gifts, which makes it hard to speak definitively of wrongdoing. In fact, two items the Clintons returned were ultimately sent back to them. Finally, it’s worth making clear that the "force" they responded to was political pressure, not legal jeopardy.

The paid back thousands of bucks because even though they claimed to be "dirt poor" when they left the White House, their good nature "donated" the money to pay for the thousands of dollars worth of gov property they STOLE. :a20:..:a20:

Even Al Capone was only convicted of tax evasion!

Top ethics lawyers. Where did you find them? Perhaps in the dictionary under oxymoron.

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Aha! The poster has a Law Degree from Trump University!! :a20:

The Clinton Furniture Flap

"In any case, the $28,000 worth of furniture the Clintons took with them upon leaving the White House was returned in February 2001, according to the National Park Service."

"Jim McDaniel, a National Park Service spokesman, said the items returned were indeed property of the federal government. So it is possible that the Clintons would have been forced to return them, if they did not do so voluntarily."

"In the end, the Clintons returned or paid for most the items that they took from the White House, although they were able to keep two items that they had returned."

"The gifts included $7,375 for tables and chairs from Denise Rich, a prominent Democratic fundraiser and the ex-wife of a fugitive financier, Marc Rich, who was pardoned by Clinton on the president’s last day in office. Former President Jimmy Carter called the Rich pardon “disgraceful,” saying “some of the factors in his pardon were attributable to his large gifts.”"

"Prior to returning those gifts, the Clintons also agreed to pay for $86,000 worth of other items that they received in their last year in office."

Probably better than your diploma from Hillary's school for clowns.

An amusing sidebar to this whole stolen furniture story is that Hillary Clinton will be the one inconvenienced when she moves back into the White House and has less furniture to choose from.

Who would want these 25 year old drapes anyway, and who is still talking about this last century story? Nobody cares.

What the poster seems to be saying is anybody can be a felon if another person says you are a felon, but to be a convicted felon, one must be convicted by a representative of the courts, not Fox News.

Good information, great whining. Were they convicted? Did they admit guilt?

Good information, great whining. Were they convicted? Did they admit guilt?

Good information, great whining. Were the Clintons convicted? Did they admit guilt?

President Clinton escaped indictment by surrendering his Arkansas law license for five years and admitting that he made false statements under oath about his affair with Monica Lewinsky.

Someone who lies under oath in federal court, or who lies under oath to a person acting on behalf of the federal government may be sentenced to up to five years in jail.

1. Did Bill Clinton admit guilt to lying under oath? Yes

2. Is lying under oath in federal court, or to a person acting on behalf of the federal government a felony (a crime punishable by more than one year of confinement)? Yes

3. By YOUR definition is Bill Clinton a felon? YES

So now the FBI is crooked. :a20:

Nice picture of your wife!

Did Bill Clinton serve five years in jail? No
Did Bill Clinton serve one year in jail? No
Is Bill Clinton running for office? No

Did Bill Clinton leave office with an approval rating in the high 60%'s? Yes

As Hillary Clinton once said "What difference does it make"?

Bill Clinton is one of the most beloved and influential democrats of the past 25 years and most of the republicans that served on the impeachment committee lost their seats or were otherwise forced to resign, including Speaker Gingrich.

You post as if stupidity were a virtue. Why is that?

You just proved it is!

Yes, you did.

First-
I don't define words. I cut and pasted from a Law Book.

Second
There is more then one of us answering your post.

Third
In fact, the Senate acquitted Clinton. In order for a lie under oath to amount to perjury -- as Senator Daniel Akaka (D-HI) explained on the floor of the Senate on February 12, 1999 -- it must be "material" to the underlying case. U.S. District Judge Susan Webber Wright ruled that Clinton's deposition in the Monica Lewinsky case was immaterial to the sexual harassment suit that Paula Jones brought against Clinton. As a judge, Napolitano almost certainly knows that as a legal matter, Clinton is not guilty of a felony.

Why, do you think Bill Clinton agreed to surrender his law license for five years. Perhaps it was a goodwill gesture?

When you can't argue with the facts, call people stupid. Good plan.

Another fun fact about the whole Bill Clinton saga is the only one sitting in jail is former Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert (R-IL).

He was the guy called in to clean up the whole Clinton impeachment debacle. Hastert is the longest serving speaker in US history, but it seems he couldn't keep his hands off the young boys.

Spin it any way you like, Bill Clinton is a felon. The only reason Bill Clinton was not found guilty of a felony was because of a plea bargain entered to avoid his prosecution.

Source: Wikipedia (Clinton vs Jones)
"As a consequence of his conduct in the Jones v. Clinton civil suit and before the federal grand jury, President Clinton incurred significant administrative sanctions.

The Independent Counsel considered seven non-criminal alternative sanctions that were imposed in making his decision to decline prosecution:

(1) President Clinton’s admission of providing false testimony that was knowingly misleading, evasive, and prejudicial to the administration of justice before the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Arkansas;

(2) his acknowledgement that his conduct violated the Rules of Professional Conduct of the Arkansas Supreme Court;

(3) the five-year suspension of his license to practice law and $25,000 fine imposed on him by the Circuit Court of Pulaski County, Arkansas;

(4) the civil contempt penalty of more than $900,000 imposed on President Clinton by the federal court for violating its orders;

(5) the payment of more than $850,000 in settlement to Paula Jones;

(6) the express finding by the federal court that President Clinton had engaged in contemptuous conduct; and (7) the substantial public condemnation of President Clinton arising from his impeachment."

These seven sanctions, Ray reasoned, were "sufficient", and therefore he did not pursue further sanctions in a criminal proceeding.[2]"

An innocent man (Bill Clinton) would not have agreed to the above seven sanctions had he not been guilty.

What "facts" are you referring to?

I don't know why and don't feel like looking it up. I thought this was about whether or not by legal definition, he is a felon.

Results of Google search for: "Legal Definition of a Felon"

Felon legal definition of felon - Legal Dictionary - The Free Dictionary
legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/felon
Felon. An individual who commits a crime of a serious nature, such as Burglary or murder. A person who commits a felony. West's Encyclopedia of American .

Felony legal definition of felony - Legal Dictionary - The Free Dictionary
legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/felony
Felony. A serious crime, characterized under federal law and many state statutes as any offense punishable by death or imprisonment in excess of one year.

With reference to the above definitions, Bill Clinton is a Felon.

not unless he was convicted

New York. Individuals convicted of a felony are ineligible to vote while incarcerated and on parole. Voting rights are automatically restored upon completion of parole, and people on probation can vote. Ex-offenders should re-register to vote.

At any time did Bill Clinton lose the right to vote? no

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Are you going to deny that the Clintons did not commit felonies? Are you really that naive? Or are you really that blinded by politics?

Thanks...

Why wouldn't you think they are? Do you think the corruption is limited to President, Congress, Senate, SCOTUS, Federal judges, EPA, SEC, CIA, and all the rest?

That's the problem with really stupid people, they're too stupid to know just how stupid they are.

Exactly, YOU don't get to decide if he's guilty. The day a judge says he's guilty, THEN you can start calling him a felon.

Most people ARE that naive...look at the crap they believe. Government is there to help, religions are real, women and minorities are "equal". All kinds of lies and fantasy.

So, If I rape your wife and daughter and for lack of evidence, I am never convicted, then by your logic (not legal definition) I am not a rapist? I must say, it is an interesting world in which you live.

The LEGAL definition provided does not require the the requirement of a conviction. However, to meet YOUR definition of a felon, a conviction is required. I think I continue to use the legal definition of a felon rather than yours.

He probably doesn't have a wife and daughter, so that's probably not a good example. There isn't enough room under his rock for the three of them.

If you did it, you are...but I can't call you one, or you'll sue me. Same with Hillary, she may be a felon, guilty of a felonious crime, but they can't call her one until she's convicted, just like I can't call you a rapist until you're convicted. I know these abstract concepts are tough, stick with it.

Boy, that's the pot calling the kettle black...you're thinking might be the majority now, but it's no solution and in the end will destroy a once mighty nation.

Why in the world would you limit it to words starting with "b?"
antisemite
xenophobe
self-aggrandized
bigot ( a "b")
serial husband
chauvinist (the real one in addition to MCP)
misogynist
two-faced
pathological liar
shock jock (with not a fact in sight)
fraud (think Chump U)
childish name caller
did I say pathological liar?
back-stabber (another "b"; think Lewandowski et al.)
nationalist
sexist
fanatic
maniac
extremist
rabble-rouser
autocrat
tyrant

I could go on, bu I have plans today.

Horrible example. You should be ashamed.