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Guest 08-26-2011 02:52 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 386734)
You don't know a thing about why most republicans are republicans. If you did, you would know we are so because we understand the long-range outcomes of being nationally bankrupt, insolvent, fiscally irresponsible, and printers of money not worth the paper it's printed on. With this continued destruction, we soon won't have a nation anymore.

Democrats refuse to admit to the old adage "Whoever owns your debt owns YOU." We are "owned", and that translates to "slavery".

All of our founders, veterans and military heroes of the past did not stand up to tyranny and fight for our liberty so we could be ENSLAVED!

Yes Massa.....I just don't gets it....:cus:

Guest 08-26-2011 04:35 PM

[QUOTE=buggyone;386444]The Republicans want to break the Medicare covenant we’ve had in place since 1965.

The covenant is simple and fair. Americans work all their lives, pay their taxes, provide for their families, and then get to retire with dignity. Medicare provides us with medical care in our later years, after we’ve paid for it all our lives through taxes.

Now Republicans want to take away Medicare’s guarantee of care from anyone who turns 65 more than ten years from now. And they aren’t even doing it to pay down the deficit (it wouldn’t help much anyway). Because, according to the Congressional Budget Office, their big plan wouldn’t cut the deficit or debt over the next ten years.

No, they’re doing it to cut taxes dramatically for the richest Americans, which are already near historic lows. And they’re doing it by replacing Medicare’s guarantee of care with vouchers that will only guarantee big profits for their friends in Big Insurance. It’s both immoral and fiscally irresponsible.

There’s only one way to understand the Republicans’ budget plan—voted for by all but four House Republicans. It’s a naked, unapologetic attack on American working families for the sake of Big Insurance and the richest of the rich.

It abolishes Medicare’s guarantee of medical care for Americans over 65, throwing them at the feet of Big Insurance.
It uses that money to cut taxes for the wealthiest Americans below their already historic lows—down to 25%.
It leads to bigger debts and deficits over the next decade, according to the independent, nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office.

After we fought long and hard to get health insurance for millions more working Americans, Republicans want to take it away at the end of ou


This is all Democratic spin and unfortunately not factually based. Republicans want to address medicare resturctring for those below 55. Enough said

Obama claims he can get us out of this economic mess by taxing billionaires and millionaires. However he fails to acknowledge that he is after those making $250,000 and above in the beginning and also will have to continue downward; especially since fully 50% of taxpayers don't pay taxes. He is also proposing an additional VAT tax.

I have cut the stats, etc short because bottom line after all Obama's stimulus packages, etc the economy has not recovered and three years into his presidency growth is less than 1%. Reagan walked into a worse economic mess and three years after his tax cuts and business policies the economy was humming at 8% . Please please see Obama's failings policies for what they are. Obama is not and never has been capable to handling this office.

Guest 08-26-2011 04:49 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 386444)
The Republicans want to break the Medicare covenant we’ve had in place since 1965.

The covenant is simple and fair. Americans work all their lives, pay their taxes, provide for their families, and then get to retire with dignity. Medicare provides us with medical care in our later years, after we’ve paid for it all our lives through taxes.

Now Republicans want to take away Medicare’s guarantee of care from anyone who turns 65 more than ten years from now. And they aren’t even doing it to pay down the deficit (it wouldn’t help much anyway). Because, according to the Congressional Budget Office, their big plan wouldn’t cut the deficit or debt over the next ten years.

No, they’re doing it to cut taxes dramatically for the richest Americans, which are already near historic lows. And they’re doing it by replacing Medicare’s guarantee of care with vouchers that will only guarantee big profits for their friends in Big Insurance. It’s both immoral and fiscally irresponsible.

There’s only one way to understand the Republicans’ budget plan—voted for by all but four House Republicans. It’s a naked, unapologetic attack on American working families for the sake of Big Insurance and the richest of the rich.

It abolishes Medicare’s guarantee of medical care for Americans over 65, throwing them at the feet of Big Insurance.
It uses that money to cut taxes for the wealthiest Americans below their already historic lows—down to 25%.
It leads to bigger debts and deficits over the next decade, according to the independent, nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office.

After we fought long and hard to get health insurance for millions more working Americans, Republicans want to take it away at the end of ou


This is all Democratic spin and unfortunately not factually based. Republicans want to address medicare resturctring for those below 55. Enough said

Obama claims he can get us out of this economic mess by taxing billionaires and millionaires. However he fails to acknowledge that he is after those making $250,000 and above in the beginning and also will have to continue downward; especially since fully 50% of taxpayers don't pay taxes. He is also proposing an additional VAT tax.

I have cut the stats, etc short because bottom line after all Obama's stimulus packages, etc the economy has not recovered and three years into his presidency growth is less than 1%. Reagan walked into a worse economic mess and three years after his tax cuts and business policies the economy was humming at 8% . Please please see Obama's failings policies for what they are. Obama is not and never has been capable to handling this office
.

Ain't that the truth!!!

Guest 08-26-2011 05:01 PM

to DEBANDDON...

In my post #4 on this thread this is what Isaid....

"You are right BTK....I am shocked by anyone who feels that liberals and conservatives or Democrats and Republicans are the same as they were, say in the 60's !

I was very active in the Democrat party in the 60's and early 70's but left as they sped hell bent to the hard left....not my cup of tea and today, the Soros;s of the world control that party. Not the same."


In your post #23, you said that I said this...

"Originally Posted by Bucco
You are right BTK....I am shocked by anyone who feels that liberals and conservatives or Democrats and Republicans are the same as they were, say in the 60's !
Today Ronnie wouldn't even make it out of the primary. Way to liberal.


I was very active in the Democrat party in the 60's and early 70's but left as they sped hell bent to the hard left....not my cup of tea and today, the Soros;s of the world control that party. Not the same
.

These are NOT the same quote and I would like to know publicly why you changed it ????? Does not matter the degree...why would someone change anothers quote ?????

Guest 08-27-2011 05:34 AM

DEBANDDON....

Still waiting on a response on my above post !!

Guest 08-27-2011 03:54 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 386808)
to DEBANDDON...

In my post #4 on this thread this is what Isaid....

"You are right BTK....I am shocked by anyone who feels that liberals and conservatives or Democrats and Republicans are the same as they were, say in the 60's !

I was very active in the Democrat party in the 60's and early 70's but left as they sped hell bent to the hard left....not my cup of tea and today, the Soros;s of the world control that party. Not the same."


In your post #23, you said that I said this...

"Originally Posted by Bucco
You are right BTK....I am shocked by anyone who feels that liberals and conservatives or Democrats and Republicans are the same as they were, say in the 60's !
Today Ronnie wouldn't even make it out of the primary. Way to liberal.


I was very active in the Democrat party in the 60's and early 70's but left as they sped hell bent to the hard left....not my cup of tea and today, the Soros;s of the world control that party. Not the same
.

These are NOT the same quote and I would like to know publicly why you changed it ????? Does not matter the degree...why would someone change anothers quote ?????

Bucco,
I'm sorry but I think you are confused. I have no ideas what you're talking about. Is that public enough for you. :boxing2:

Guest 08-27-2011 05:10 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 387140)
Bucco,
I'm sorry but I think you are confused. I have no ideas what you're talking about. Is that public enough for you. :boxing2:

"Today Ronnie wouldn't even make it out of the primary. Way to liberal."


This is the line that Bucco was talking about that was added to his post that you quoted.

(It was post #20)

Guest 08-27-2011 05:55 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 387166)
"Today Ronnie wouldn't even make it out of the primary. Way to liberal."


This is the line that Bucco was talking about that was added to his post that you quoted.

(It was post #20)

thank you. I suppose for some it is not important but it is to me.

Thanks

Guest 08-27-2011 07:16 PM

Isn't lying about what your political adversary said the quintessential ploy of the modern liberal, and isn't this latest example a perfect illustration of the species?

Guest 08-27-2011 07:21 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 387201)
Isn't lying about what your political adversary said the quintessential ploy of the modern liberal, and isn't this latest example a perfect illustration of the species?

Yep, must be on the list of their hero, Alinsky.

Guest 08-27-2011 07:21 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 387201)
Isn't lying about what your political adversary said the quintessential ploy of the modern liberal, and isn't this latest example a perfect illustration of the species?

RICHIE...all I know is that I never ever thought on this forum that anyone would or could do something like that. I wish I could figure out how it could happen accidentally but I cannot thus I hope those who find it to their benefit to change others words on here might explain.

Seems to me that if you can do something like that...well......but those who displayed it simply passed if off as a little dumb thing. The actual change was not that great but the thought that anyone could do that...well...got to wonder what kind of neighbors you might have

This political talk is not that important to me to reduce myself to that level.

Guest 08-27-2011 07:23 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 387207)
RICHIE...all I know is that I never ever thought on this forum that anyone would or could do something like that. I wish I could figure out how it could happen accidentally but I cannot thus I hope those who find it to their benefit to change others words on here might explain.

Seems to me that if you can do something like that...well......but those who displayed it simply passed if off as a little dumb thing. The actual change was not that great but the thought that anyone could do that...well...got to wonder what kind of neighbors you might have

This political talk is not that important to me to reduce myself to that level.

It is not worth getting upset over when you realize it was done by a progressive liberal or as that famous communist thug called them "useful idiots"

Guest 08-27-2011 07:26 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 387209)
It is not worth getting upset over when you realize it was done by a progressive liberal or as that famous communist thug called them "useful idiots"

Left, right or whatever.....my comments on the moderators was pretty negative because of this and a few other things happening.

Things like this speak to the character of the poster....I dont mind trading comments on issues, but once I meet someone that can do something like this, that is it for me !!!

Guest 08-28-2011 07:30 AM

When I saw what had happened to your post days ago, Bucco, I flagged it and sent a note to the administrator. It either didn't go through or it wasn't of importance. Either way, it seems to have been ignored since you have mentioned it several times.

This seriously needs to be addressed by the owner/moderators/administrator. It isn't that your words are being misunderstood or twisted, someone is adding complete sentences to a quote and attributing those words to you that you didn't say. That is beyond wrong. It is beyond lying.

I have never, not for one second, thought I'd have to double check my words on this forum to make sure someone hasn't changed what I've said. That should have been addressed immediately.

Guest 08-28-2011 08:12 AM

Just a question of protocol....

Often times, I edit a quoted section by underlining or bolding a specific portion of the post... Sometimes, I edit a long post to only include the specific statement I am responding to, such as:

"... we r e wefrwerfw wer wer werwer we"

This is an acceptable practice, right ?? I don't add words or sentences to anyone's quote.


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