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Rockyrd 06-08-2017 02:01 PM

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I think Neil Cavuto is correct in his assessment. My personal opinion of Donald Trump as I have said before, just from observing his behavior is that he has had mild Asperger's Syndrome all of his life, was born with it. He is not good at reading, inappropriate frequently with how he interprets social interchange, will pick up on minor cues, cannot seem to not respond. Yet he is brilliant in many ways and highly successful in business.

There are a lot of people who have not been diagnosed with certain personality traits who have made an apparent success of their life. I am sure he often does not understand why he is being criticized. I think he thinks he is doing the right thing.

WHATEVER, HE LIES, AND KNOW WE KNOW HIS LAWYER DOES AS WELL.

A President who will lie to the American people, and will do, say or tweet what he does puts each and every American citizen in very great danger, and today send his lawyer out to lie.

Does not matter why....he is putting us in great danger. What he did in the Mid East this week is NOTHING compared to what he might do.

HE IS THE PRESIDENT...HE SPEAKS FOR THE COUNTRY

Rockyrd 06-08-2017 02:05 PM

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Sir. YOU felt excluded. I didn't use you as an example of the opposite. I just praised someone. Of course I lecture. I am a card carrying mother...and a woman.

I do admire Rubicon. He is smart. He is kind. He is CALM. And I agree with him most of the time. He never uses gutter talk. (I do) He is a good family man who really loves his wife. He is a decent soul.

You don't seem to read many posts except his. If you did, and read those of us who actually supply backup....

Well, I do not feel left out or excluded. Not sure why you say that, but I don't post unless I know I have the correct and proper information....I do not take down and accuse my fellow Americans, illogically and without any facts and your opinion sure means less now than irpt used to mean.

Joe De Vito 06-08-2017 02:06 PM

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Fox has always been fair and balanced, thanks for pointing it out.

Shep Smith, Juan williams, Geraldo etc etc proves how balanced.

Where are the equal amount of conservatives on CNN, msnbc, etc etc

THERE ARE NON, they are agents for the liberals.

When is the last time you watched MSNBC?

Fox has been called the Republican Broadcasting System, and they are damn proud of it. That is what Roger Ailes wanted. He achieved his goal.

The news may be "fair and balance"; however, their commenters are far from it.

The two potted plants on Fox and Friends, and Hannity reports are "fair and balances". In what World! Who are the people on the far left on Fox News that offset these clowns?

Part of the problem is what is considered a conservative. The Republicans have gone so far right that true conservatives are considered RINOs.

I don't watch CNN. MSNBC has Republican conservatives has their hosts. They are Nichole Wallace, and Joe Scarborough. They are conservatives in the true sense of the word. Are Shepard Smith, and Bret Baiar and considered a liberal, or a Democrat? These two are at least trying to be balanced.

Chuck Todd, and Brian Williams aren't far left. Greta Van Susteren worked for Fox News.

When I want a good laugh in the morning, I turn on Fox, and Friends, and they never fail. Trump loves them. You are going to try and sell that they are "fair and balanced". Good luck.

If you think that Hannity is "fair and balanced", you have lost your mind. From 7PM to 10:59 PM, MSNBC is definitely to the left. However, none of these hosts comes anywhere close to Hannity. He is truly insane, and no damn good.

Rockyrd 06-08-2017 02:12 PM

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When is the last time you watched MSNBC?

Fox has been called the Republican Broadcasting System, and they are damn proud of it. That is what Roger Ailes wanted. He achieved his goal.

The news may be "fair and balance"; however, their commenters are far from it.

The two potted plants on Fox and Friends, and Hannity reports are "fair and balances". In what World! Who are the people on the far left on Fox News that offset these clowns?

Part of the problem is what is considered a conservative. The Republicans have gone so far right that true conservatives are considered RINOs.

I don't watch CNN. MSNBC has Republican conservatives has their hosts. They are Nichole Wallace, and Joe Scarborough. They are conservatives in the true sense of the word. Are Shepard Smith, and Bret Baiar and considered a liberal, or a Democrat? These two are at least trying to be balanced.

Chuck Todd, and Brian Williams aren't far left. Greta Van Susteren worked for Fox News.

When I want a good laugh in the morning, I turn on Fox, and Friends, and they never fail. Trump loves them. You are going to try and sell that they are "fair and balanced". Good luck.

If you think that Hannity is "fair and balanced", you have lost your mind. From 7PM to 10:59 PM, MSNBC is definitely to the left. However, none of these hosts comes anywhere close to Hannity. He is truly insane, and no damn good.

I concur in general, and to the OP I can sure see a change happening. You cannot support liars...it makes you a liar.

Watched a bit today after Trump attorneys and whomever this women and Judge are...well, they seemed flabbergasted, and in fact talked about how poor this attorney did, including a reference to lying.

graciegirl 06-08-2017 02:37 PM

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:1rotfl:

A cafeteria Christian are we? :oops:

Have you even bothered to read what was required of 'believers'... under the Old Testament?

Now tell everyone, how you can lump all Muslims in one group based on the interpretation by the most radical/fundamental of a few of the more disgusting parts of the Quran...but you refuse to do so for Christians.

The "But That's Just the Old Testament!" Cop-Out | loonwatch.com


Tell us why you are so bigoted as to believe one thing...but be blinded by the other.

Tell us why the abhorrent Westboro Baptist Church, isn't actually correct...because they go by the word of the OT?

We'll wait. :popcorn:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:


You are at best extremely unkind. No one wants to be inhospitable of others but people, all people, do profile. I do. I think that we won't live long enough to see how bad this mess is gonna get.

Those are my views. You called me a liar. I think that is the first time anyone has ever called me a liar. Not that I never lie.

You make me angry and you make me wonder why you are so terribly ........hateful.

graciegirl 06-08-2017 02:54 PM

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When I want a good laugh in the morning, I turn on Fox, and Friends, and they never fail. Trump loves them. You are going to try and sell that they are "fair and balanced". Good luck.

If you think that Hannity is "fair and balanced", you have lost your mind. From 7PM to 10:59 PM, MSNBC is definitely to the left. However, none of these hosts comes anywhere close to Hannity. He is truly insane, and no damn good.[/QUOTE


The only network of those three that I don't watch anymore is MSNBC. I read New York Times, Reuters, AP, Guardian, Washington Post. (talk about biased) I do NOT read any of those very biased online thingys...except Breitbart...I like them because my views are right of center by quite a bit. I send the weirdy news blurbs on Facebook to the delete pile...from either side. It is hard enough today trying to find the truth from the most trusted news sources. I have never noticed that Hannity appeared insane or "no damned good".

Most people who have lived six or seven decades don't fit into many boxes. I think that Trump was elected because many people were not in tune with the far right or the far left. I still like his policies and hope for a BAN. Go right ahead and call me bigoted. I think that folks who aren't a little afraid are more than a little uninformed. We can't agree or like everybody and the ones who cry hate on this forum seem to me to act the most hateful.

Rockyrd 06-08-2017 03:12 PM

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I do not think that you, or most people KNOW what Muslims believe. Or how dangerous anyone who has become a radicalized religious person can be.......

I don't like a religious ideology that states in their Holy Book that you would be better off dead if you do not accept and live the tenants of their religion.

I didnt not see your addition thus did not respond.

Will say that your know less or no more than I and others about what Muslims believe BUT you condemn the entire religion with almost every key stroke.

You speak and if you are the only person who is not concerned about radical muslim terrorism. Trust me, you are not. HOWEVER the Trump campaign and you and the rest of the acolyte's have made this into a "cottage industry" and as if they fear of and dedication to destroying this threat was a property of ONLY his campaign and ONLY the Republican party.

Let me tell you.....the front line in our country in this war against radical islamic terrorism is our FBI and intelligence communities. Trump has trashed these organizations and lied about them since he began his campaign. You feel good about that ?

Yes, Obama should have gone to Syria way back a few years and if you recall, I began two threads on that same subject. He would have caught holy hell for it...putting our troops in harms way in Syria and YOU and the smart guy Rubicon would have been at the head of the pack attacking Obama for that. You can say you would not but sorry, dont believe it.

That was an error in judgement for sure, but pretty much since then, everybody is walking on eggs....WHY ? Because Russia is now a player there and makes a big difference. Not only does our President not ever criticize them, he sort of brags on them. NEXT on the list for ISIS.....guess where....Eastern Europe. What is the common denominator....RUSSIA.

We need to move on TERRORISM, not ISLAM. We ask american muslims to help us and then in the next breath call the religion terrible names.

The enemy is TERRORISM who is moving under the name of Islam and if you know what is good for you, especially in the mid east, you better not say that you think they do not support the religion and we are pushing it in this country as well.

I do not fear the MUSLIM RELIGION but I do fear the terrorists who work using the name Muslim.

Trump has instilled the fear of this in all our citizens. That is how he got started in this particular race and we do not need a ban on who he says we need to ban. We need to help our agencies that he demeans at every step of the way in insuring we are vetting properly.

he has destroyed any chance of a non biased comprehensive immigration policy and thus we have chaos. I suppose that is wht you folks wanted.

Chi-Town 06-08-2017 03:15 PM

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This is fairly remarkable.

A poster gives a direct quote...not made up crap, linked it to a specific show it was said on. Headed with a non specific, general question which was very valid.

You respond by beginning with a personal comment about viewer habits which means nothing, nor is it any of your business.

You then do a commercial for FOX News, but never ever, at any time do you address what the poster quoted from a Fox newsperson.

Yet, you have no problem coming on here and condemning in the most general fashion, millions of Americans based on their religion or political ideology.

BUT you will lecture me and others on being proper and honest.

As they say on a sports show..."C'mon man"

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Rockyrd 06-08-2017 03:19 PM

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When I want a good laugh in the morning, I turn on Fox, and Friends, and they never fail. Trump loves them. You are going to try and sell that they are "fair and balanced". Good luck.

If you think that Hannity is "fair and balanced", you have lost your mind. From 7PM to 10:59 PM, MSNBC is definitely to the left. However, none of these hosts comes anywhere close to Hannity. He is truly insane, and no damn good.[/QUOTE


The only network of those three that I don't watch anymore is MSNBC. I read New York Times, Reuters, AP, Guardian, Washington Post. (talk about biased) I do NOT read any of those very biased online thingys...except Breitbart...I like them because my views are right of center by quite a bit. I send the weirdy news blurbs on Facebook to the delete pile...from either side. It is hard enough today trying to find the truth from the most trusted news sources. I have never noticed that Hannity appeared insane or "no damned good".

Most people who have lived six or seven decades don't fit into many boxes. I think that Trump was elected because many people were not in tune with the far right or the far left. I still like his policies and hope for a BAN. Go right ahead and call me bigoted. I think that folks who aren't a little afraid are more than a little uninformed. We can't agree or like everybody and the ones who cry hate on this forum seem to me to act the most hateful.

Just a note....the Washington Post is not biased. It has made its reputation on INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISM...remember who brought us Watergate ?

Trump has given us so much to investigate what with his crooked foundations, lying and such that you probably do feel it is biased.

If it makes you feel any better, the link below shows they investigate everybody.......but it will be boring as hell compared to the last 6 months.

Obama’s biggest whoppers - The Washington Post

This is the title because somehow I dont think you will open the link because I gave it to you...should have forwarded it through Rubicon...

"Obama’s biggest whoppers

Enjoy....you can smile while reading and forget the real world which so many are doing as all they talk about is Obama and Clinton and ignore the real on going world and our destruction of the presidency

ColdNoMore 06-08-2017 03:20 PM

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You are at best extremely unkind. No one wants to be inhospitable of others but people, all people, do profile. I do. I think that we won't live long enough to see how bad this mess is gonna get.

No one is arguing that there aren't those radicals/fundamentalists, that have corrupted their religion to justify heinous acts and hatred.

It is the ignorance that this represents an entire religion...that some people can't seem to see.




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Those are my views. You called me a liar. I think that is the first time anyone has ever called me a liar. Not that I never lie.

Now I know you're lying. :1rotfl:

What would you call someone who made numerous statements, to impress others, about a relative who was an 'Executive Producer' when in fact they knew they were only an 'Assistant Producer/Writer?

Maybe it is just another case of believing in...'alternate facts?' :D

Or the same person who sent me a PM the day after I joined here claiming I was someone else and then inundated the moderators and admin's with whining... to have me banned? To the point, where I'm probably the only person who has ever had to show their drivers license to prove you wrong. And while I thought your power to do that was way out of whack with simply being the post leader, I have since seen the powers-that-be here...be fair and equitable. :thumbup:





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You make me angry and you make me wonder why you are so terribly ........hateful.

As to making you angry, I hope you realize by now...I couldn't really care less. :boxing2:

As to your attempt to malign my character (due primarily to my embarrassing you as a liar and exposing you as a passive-aggressive twit)...you're way off the mark.

I have close friends that would tell you I am a straight shooter who would give you the shirt off of his back, but does not tolerate racists/bigots/misogynists/passive-aggressive people and bullies...gladly. :ho:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

maureenod 06-08-2017 04:40 PM

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When is the last time you watched MSNBC?

Fox has been called the Republican Broadcasting System, and they are damn proud of it. That is what Roger Ailes wanted. He achieved his goal.

The news may be "fair and balance"; however, their commenters are far from it.

The two potted plants on Fox and Friends, and Hannity reports are "fair and balances". In what World! Who are the people on the far left on Fox News that offset these clowns?

Part of the problem is what is considered a conservative. The Republicans have gone so far right that true conservatives are considered RINOs.

I don't watch CNN. MSNBC has Republican conservatives has their hosts. They are Nichole Wallace, and Joe Scarborough. They are conservatives in the true sense of the word. Are Shepard Smith, and Bret Baiar and considered a liberal, or a Democrat? These two are at least trying to be balanced.

Chuck Todd, and Brian Williams aren't far left. Greta Van Susteren worked for Fox News.

When I want a good laugh in the morning, I turn on Fox, and Friends, and they never fail. Trump loves them. You are going to try and sell that they are "fair and balanced". Good luck.

If you think that Hannity is "fair and balanced", you have lost your mind. From 7PM to 10:59 PM, MSNBC is definitely to the left. However, none of these hosts comes anywhere close to Hannity. He is truly insane, and no damn good.

Ted Koppel, truly the most respected journalist, looked Hannity straight in the eye and said "YOU are bad for America" . Hannity was, believe it or not, taken back and said "I'm bad for America?" YAAAAH

rubicon 06-08-2017 04:57 PM

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You are at best extremely unkind. No one wants to be inhospitable of others but people, all people, do profile. I do. I think that we won't live long enough to see how bad this mess is gonna get.

Those are my views. You called me a liar. I think that is the first time anyone has ever called me a liar. Not that I never lie.

You make me angry and you make me wonder why you are so terribly ........hateful.

Tell me...never mind ask yourself how you felt when you read this poster's comments that caused you to respond with the aforementioned?

There is an easy solution its called the ignore list.

People do not sign on to this forum for that type of verbal abuse and, vile attacks. Most would be willing a give and take arrangement and stay open to legitimate disagreement .

Those who are judged to go beyond the pal are deserving of being added to the ignore list....its akin to a scarlet letter ...and like a tree falling in a forest in your absence....

Personal Best Regards:

Nucky 06-08-2017 05:46 PM

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You are at best extremely unkind. No one wants to be inhospitable of others but people, all people, do profile. I do. I think that we won't live long enough to see how bad this mess is gonna get.

Those are my views. You called me a liar. I think that is the first time anyone has ever called me a liar. Not that I never lie.

You make me angry and you make me wonder why you are so terribly ........hateful.

Mrs. gracegirl that's an easy one. "You make me angry and you make me wonder why you are so terribly ........hateful." It's because it is all he knows how to be. Be careful of anyone who claims to look out for others instead of just doing so.

It's Fox News in our home. We also like Wesh news for the local news. If we want a good laugh we put on The Comedy News Network = CNN.

I give a whole lot of credit to those who stick with it over here including graciegirl, Rubicon, Tal, Allegiance, and others whose views don't always align with my own. The constant barrage of incoming insults from this one person is amazing. I can't believe TOTV allows it to happen. Throw one little shot at him on the main Forum and he takes his Binkie and alerts the Moderator.

Only a low life would insult a Mother, Father, Husband, Wife, Grandmother, Grandfather, Brother, Sister, Veteran, Person who loves our country on a regular basis. When he fires an insult at one of these he fires at all of them. Truly a garbage person. Enough.

Rockyrd 06-08-2017 05:56 PM

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Tell me...never mind ask yourself how you felt when you read this poster's comments that caused you to respond with the aforementioned?

There is an easy solution its called the ignore list.

People do not sign on to this forum for that type of verbal abuse and, vile attacks. Most would be willing a give and take arrangement and stay open to legitimate disagreement .

Those who are judged to go beyond the pal are deserving of being added to the ignore list....its akin to a scarlet letter ...and like a tree falling in a forest in your absence....

Personal Best Regards:

Actually, I can agree with you to an extent.

Worse than what you are after are those who judge and act as if it is a judgement from above. I can take the heat in here....I really truely have a problem with being judged with no back up....THAT is a trait of Trump....I never liked it from him and I do not like it here.

I AM sick of folks judging everyone and making judgements and not even having the courtesy of allowing me...on what basis are you judging me.

AND even more is the judgement of millions and millions of fellow americans as if the poster judging had the holy grail and knew all.

AND on a political forum to lack the honesty to at least TRY to back it up with facts is most unnerving. Those are the posters who need to be sorted out and tossed...they serve ZERO purpose to this forum.

YOU RUBICON who post this make judgements almost each day on millions of people based on things you dont even know about nor share. I do not like Trump, but I very seldom if ever post a remark about him without a credible link to support what I am saying.

You and the poster you defend, simply make judgements.......I suppose because it is you, I really never understood that.

You critique those you comprehend as foes of your friend, BUT NEVER EVER CRITICIZE those who use filth in their posts...fact is they brag that they have been invited to your fancy facebook page. Those with the filth you seem to consort with...why is that....simple, you all support Trump, refuse to see anything wrong and those who do not agree with your hate are the bad people.

Yeah, I understand what you say but find you to be so hypocritical, so phoney and thus so un trustworthy. You and your friend do in fact get me close to anger everytime I read, not your opinion based on facts you present, but hate based on a long campaign of "lock her up" "media lies" etc and etc. It was all hate and he brought to the White House and you guys carry it on here on TOTV

This is not a defense of anyone, but a continuing critique that either because I am on your ignore list, which is no surprise. but because you simply march on and refuse to acknowledge you might......JUST MIGHT, BY CHANCE be wrong and that maybe all the americans you go after might have an opinion worth listening to.

Just try starting a sentence without the word ALL proceeding those you are going to demean.....try giving us specific reasons...links, articles, even just your opinion founded in some kind of facts.

Allegiance 06-08-2017 06:04 PM

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I didnt not see your addition thus did not respond.

Will say that your know less or no more than I and others about what Muslims believe BUT you condemn the entire religion with almost every key stroke.

You speak and if you are the only person who is not concerned about radical muslim terrorism. Trust me, you are not. HOWEVER the Trump campaign and you and the rest of the acolyte's have made this into a "cottage industry" and as if they fear of and dedication to destroying this threat was a property of ONLY his campaign and ONLY the Republican party.

Let me tell you.....the front line in our country in this war against radical islamic terrorism is our FBI and intelligence communities. Trump has trashed these organizations and lied about them since he began his campaign. You feel good about that ?

Yes, Obama should have gone to Syria way back a few years and if you recall, I began two threads on that same subject. He would have caught holy hell for it...putting our troops in harms way in Syria and YOU and the smart guy Rubicon would have been at the head of the pack attacking Obama for that. You can say you would not but sorry, dont believe it.

That was an error in judgement for sure, but pretty much since then, everybody is walking on eggs....WHY ? Because Russia is now a player there and makes a big difference. Not only does our President not ever criticize them, he sort of brags on them. NEXT on the list for ISIS.....guess where....Eastern Europe. What is the common denominator....RUSSIA.

We need to move on TERRORISM, not ISLAM. We ask american muslims to help us and then in the next breath call the religion terrible names.

The enemy is TERRORISM who is moving under the name of Islam and if you know what is good for you, especially in the mid east, you better not say that you think they do not support the religion and we are pushing it in this country as well.

I do not fear the MUSLIM RELIGION but I do fear the terrorists who work using the name Muslim.

Trump has instilled the fear of this in all our citizens. That is how he got started in this particular race and we do not need a ban on who he says we need to ban. We need to help our agencies that he demeans at every step of the way in insuring we are vetting properly.

he has destroyed any chance of a non biased comprehensive immigration policy and thus we have chaos. I suppose that is wht you folks wanted.

Wordy might be a small understatement.... lol


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