The opposite of wishey washey, unlike Obama.
Now do you get it?
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By the way, I am also anti Obama and anti Clinton, but never could cast a vote for such a person as Trump. I am not impressed by his money, his big mouth, his "art of the deal", his lying and thinking it funny, his threats which either can never be executed or are a threat also to me.

I will skip president election and vote the down ticket

No...what foreign policy does Trump offer different from Obama ? Specifically

He can say...I will or I will not forever, but until he stands up like a man and tells me what he will do specifically, it is a waste.

The platitudes that are not going to happen.....bring back mfg immediately....bomb the crap out of ISIS, etc is just him doing what he does when he is conning...talk loud and keep saying it...they will give up and just believe it. Obviously worked on you a bit

For a good start, He won't be going around apologizing for our country!

Even if we are wrong ? Or, as withnTrump will we be perfect ?

Not perfect, but a whole lot better!
And spelling will be improved for all!

It is interesting to me how you, and all Trump supporters are absolutely incapable of being specific on anything Trump offers other than the manly stuff.

I just suggest you read about the USA and our system of government and the 3 parts of our government and tell me where a loud mouth in the WH fits. It does not, nor has it ever worked in other countries that went that route.

By the way to the poster who mentioned OBAMA APOLOGIES.

I do not want to confuse you with facts, but....

1. You and other Trumpers are always talking about the traditional politics, etc etc. The apology thing is "traditional politics" and I THINK was first fostered by the Tea Party as a radical entrance into the political forum.

2. I am and have been anti Obama and am still critical of some of his comments, but never doubted his sincerety. He sees the USA as a member of the global community and as such tries to be a good neighbor to all. Trump is an isolationist and not sure how that translates in todays world to be looking out at everyone, of course we will have all those weapons for some reason.

3. Lastly, and I know you will not read this because you are brainwashed (I apologize for using that term but know of any other to describe following a man based on NOTHING but bluster) but in any case there is not much FACT based info to support the apology thing. I think that is why the Tea Party stopped fostering it but.....

Obama's Apologies? | PolitiFact

"The following selections are quotes from President Barack Obama's speeches. Mitt Romney argued in his book No Apology: The Case for American Greatness, that the remarks constitute apologies. Our analysis, however, concluded they did not fit the formal definition of apologies; read our full report."

FACTS are a bitc@ at times for both sides, and are easily used as moving weapons. Great thing about Trump...he could care less about FACTS, but you know what.....you at least gotta understand when you get caught lying and he just keeps on lying (as he says he does in deal making IN BUSINESS, I might add....not government dealing with other countries)

Your thoughts are only your opinion, no more no less!
Sounds like you got everything figured out, and your happy with how things have been going both domestically and internationally!
That's fine, but In my opinion I believe we need a real change!

Strong

Answering the phone at 3AM

having the spine to tell it like it is.

Not bowing to others.

Putting his money where his mouth is.

not appearing unhealthy coughing fits, falling, help walking up stairs etc No stamina

responding to threats

Fly into Louisiana she never did.

......:popcorn:

Well, you have not been really reading each and every post I have made. I have been criticizing Obama consistently in many areas..foreign policy, Obama Care, etc.

Some of you simply make a very shallow assumption. If you oppose Trump, you must support Obama and like Clinton.

That is light years from any fact at all.

I am seriously upset with the trend in this country and was frankly excited about the chance for the GOP to have the WH, the Senate and the HOuse. So many great ideas from so many good young smart candidates.

Trump was the outlier...no ideas, no morals, no character, but he was smart...if he could con the primary voters and get the momination, the hate and distrust of Clinton would actually make him seem sane.

He gambled by debasing some great and fine men. An uninformed electorate enjoyed his performances.

Let me hesitate one min...performance is what it was. While most candidates tried to discuss proposals on immigration for example, Trump recognized that hate...he then took aim with illogical, not functionable and totally impossible things, wrapped that in hate and appealed to hate. NOW, he comes back to the same exact immigration that Obama, Rubio, Bush, Kasich supported, allowing exceptions for almost anything. He did this and continues on many things.

I have nothing figured out, but as a scholar who enjoys reading and wants to understand, it is apparent that Trump is the single greatest threat facing this country, more serious than ISIS or any other threat you can imagine.

He relies on you to NOT read, nor really care, just give them a show..preach in platitudes and ignore the details. As he mentions in his book, when some disagrees with you then attack, personally and just keep lying until it becomes accepted.

He is, without a doubt, an evil man, with nothing but personal ambitions...not the normal personal ambitions of all politicians....but personal agendas to bring to the WH.

Of course because you haven't read about his past con jobs, his forays into hate groups and racial disharmony, his vile personal life you won't accept this, but it is true. I actually, sometimes feel sorry for his supporters, but then I see his supporters...the loudest, grossest, most obscene ecpver and I lose that very quickly.

If you won't read, and don't care you support Trump.

If you read and care, you support neither and vote the down ticket. You will realize how serious of a threat he is and Sharpton a vile and lying human being he is.

Not ONE of those makes a President.

Most of them make a blowhard with no understanding of diplomacy or real threat. Who does not get how intricate our world is and over simplifies it to make himself look good

You seem to be filled with a lot of hate and anger...too bad!
Do you read what you write?

You make a good blowhard yourself! :1rotfl:

Are you really this stupid? :oops:

Either you have a legitimate physical ailment regarding memory loss...or you are beyond ignorant.

If it's the former...my condolences.

If it's the latter, you really should try to do a better job of hiding that amazing stupidity.

Or maybe you don't remember how the 'other 98%' were suffering...when The Simpleton slunk out of office? :ohdear:

Google 'Great Recession'...idiot.

Obama was handed a HUGE mess and you're mad because he didn't fix all of the disaster that happened under Shrub's watch?

Wow dudette...you're simply unbelievable.



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CNM

BS, Trump was correct about what? How many generals or admirals can he name besides Flynn? You wingnuts voted for a con artist. Now you are defending this moron.:a20:

Absolutely excellent analysis. :thumbup:

Especially your astute comment about these goofy knuckleheads and their... 'testosterone fix.' :D

Real men don't go around being ignorant blowhards and instead, use their intelligence to realize the consequences of their actions.

Just listening to some of the guys I golf with (who think Trump can actually do what he bleats, without the approval of Congress), makes me shake my head and wonder how they made it through their professional life...displaying such ignorance and naïveté. :ohdear:

No wonder Chump (and a lot of his followers)...admire Putin.

Simply unbelievable. :oops:




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CNM

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My investments and net worth, which have almost tripled under Obama...think it's a great idea.

I think people who are focused on and are more frightened of being killed by terrorists, instead of the 100 times more likely death by drunken drivers/obesity from eating too much/alcoholism/smoking/etc....are simply exposing their racism, bigotry and religious hypocrisy.

That's what I think.

CNM

You're 100,000 times more likely to to be killed in the "black/hispanic inner city" doing nothing but walking down the street, than EITHER of them.

It's a FACT, NOT "racism".

You "think" wrong.

Obama was NOT "handed a huge mess" he knew exactly what he was campaigning for....twice. He blew it. He has no one to blame but himself. He had two unobstructed years to do ANYTHING/ANYTHING he wished. You can't blame Bush for that. And by the way, if you were even a quarter as smart as think you are, you would know that Bush had a great economy going until the last two years of his presidency when the Democrats took over control of congress. Just saying. Look at the stats if you don't believe me. But, don't discuss facts, just continue to make it a personal thing against anyone that doesn't agree with you.

Hey dummy, the list of endorsing flag officers is on the Internet if you aren't too lazy to check it before making a fool of yourself. WOw!

:1rotfl:

Another Shrub apologist, that just can't admit that The Simpleton slunk out of office with our economy in tatters (and the lowest approval rating in recent memory)...and the black guy drug it back from the edge. :ohdear:

Let's use your reasoning then, since apparently you want to discount who is POTUS...only when it's your guy.

Congress has been Republican controlled for how long now and according to you and other Chump supporters the country is so screwed up now....that people think a megalomaniacal, bigoted, misogynist blowhard is the answer?

Really? :oops:

Sorry little fella...you can't have it both ways. ;)




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CNM

And BTW, let's do look at FACTS. ;)


The US economy does a lot better when Democrats are in the White House — Quartz

http://qz.com/649003/the-us-economy-...e-white-house/



I know it really hurts, but you're just gonna have to work through the pain. :1rotfl:




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CNM

Apparently Obama's Democrat administration is an exception to your rule

Don't let facts interfere with your opinion. Maybe you have convinced yourself, little girl?

LOL :1rotfl:

Not only is there no source or supporting data for those graphs (which I could make up and show anything I wanted without facts, in about 15 minutes)...but none go past 2012 and some are projections out to 2020. :oops:


That's not even a 'nice try.' :ohdear:



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CNM

No problem, how about gov facts up to the minute? Is that good enough for you?

U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

This lists all the information about past and present employment, national and state debt, entitlements, etc.

Like you said, anyone can make up numbers.

Each one of those graphs had source information on it. Ooops, you didn't see it? :ohdear:

Way too much media parroting, hence tainted and biased.

When talking about having both houses of congress, let us not forget Obama's first two years when he had both houses and managed to get nothing done.......ooops....that was not in the media provided info today.

Hmm, let's see. At least ten of on her list are dead, good Democrat voters. Some of them are located at places such as Freedom Point. And most of them are going to have to vote absentee because not only are their minds absent, but they couldn't wheel themselves to the polls to vote, even with assistance.

I do not care for President Obama but it bother me the ignorance shown on here. In the first two years with both houses of congress, and trust me I do not endorse much of this BUT you have no idea of what you are talking about...

....Passed the economic stimulus
....Passed Universal Health care
....Passes sweeping reforms on Wall S
.....Made major changes in Student Loan program

Amazingly this is a short list and was done during economic crisis so quite some accomplishments.

If you do not like Obama, make your case based on facts. I do not care for Obama but the shallow, short sighted, uninformed Trump supporters make a mockery of any discussion because much like their candidate they simply make things up.

tell what he makes up, then I'll tell you about Hilly

Trump trumped Hilly's 95 (less the dead ones) he's at 120

Now that you have listed the failures, what has he done successfully?

OK so we will grant that this is his list of things done.
Now let's check to see which are any good.

The political/legal responses always, ALWAYS bear further investigation.

The example I have used befor is if the Clintons owned a restaurant and people got sick from eating their chicken they would respond that it was government inspected.

They would not say a word about the additional fact that yes, it was government inspected....it was failed/rejected!!!!!

That's a good analogy. :coolsmiley:

See this is your problem and why the calls about Trump supporters.

You have no respect for truth, nor facts unless it is all about YOU.

I responded to a post saying he accomplished nothing in his first two years, listing his accomplishments, and even mentioning that I didn't agree with them in entirety.

You simply dismiss them because you don't like them. That is not how this country has ever worked and the more I read on here, ALL the remarks about Trump and his supporters are true.

That's the exact same conclusion I've come to. :(

Trump has simply given a green light and made it OK to publicly display crudeness, bigotry, racism and misogyny...for those who have previously been secretly hiding it from those they know. :ohdear:

Oops, I forgot to sign it. :D



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CNM

Not true.

All of the programs listed;

....Passed the economic stimulus
....Passed Universal Health care
....Passes sweeping reforms on Wall S
.....Made major changes in Student Loan program

lack one thing. Results as measured by what???

I do not support any politician that thinks their job is done by either talking about an issue, or brag about legislation they passed.

Did it do any good?
Did it do what it was intended to do?
Did the benfit expected (if the is one) come to pass?
Did it happen when it was supposed to happen?
Did it reduce the costs as expected?

When was the last time anybody ever heard an update from those who passed the bills, how they were doing; one year later? Five years later?

Obama is a classic.
The list above is classical.

No responsibilty!
No accountability!

Follow up with accountability and responsibilty are business practices.

Politicians have absolutely no idea if something is working or not or costing billions in excess or not.

No accountability.......no responsibility.

TALK is cheap. It does not get results.

Obama thinks when he talks about an issue he has addressed or dealt with it.

Signs of incompetence.