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Guest 11-18-2009 01:24 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 234279)
You successfully restated my post to suit your purpose(??) not one word of which has anything to do with my intent. :icon_bored:

btk

Thank you - I do my best.

Guest 11-19-2009 11:06 PM

Bump so that Yoda can see what was said.

Guest 11-19-2009 11:26 PM

It appears that many people here don't like Beck. I find him informative. More informative than the MSM. People who dislike Beck still don't call him a liar. Some may but lack objective proof.

Yoda

Guest 11-20-2009 03:20 PM

Pure Saul Alinsky. If you cannot attack the ideas; attack the individual. I may not share the ideas of, say, Sen. Reid; but I would love to see him in person.

Guest 11-20-2009 08:32 PM

I just find it hard to take someone seriously who contradicts himself within 75 seconds on something as important as accusing someone of racism.

Now, personally, I think that a lot of the heat that Glen Beck takes is people some people think he's a *newsman*. He's not - he's an *entertainer*. Even Fox News themselves will tell you that he's considered "entertainment" - something that Jon Stewart and the Daily Show pointed out showing the source of that information.

His job is to get ratings for Fox - and he apparently does that job. He brings eyeballs to the channel.

Guest 11-20-2009 08:48 PM

Lucky
 
We are truly lucky to have someone like Glenn Beck who is not an entertainer but rather a watchdog who takes time to do what we should do but instead wait for someone else to do it and then be critical.

Tonight he said the 9/12 plan is to reconnect with the values and principles,
he said America is great and that is what makes it good, and 9/12 is not meant to ever endorse a candidate. He also said The Village's is a wonderful place.
Now maybe someone can tell me how this makes him somone to dislike? How his words are anti American?:clap2:

Guest 11-20-2009 08:52 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 234659)
I just find it hard to take someone seriously who contradicts himself within 75 seconds on something as important as accusing someone of racism.

Now, personally, I think that a lot of the heat that Glen Beck takes is people some people think he's a *newsman*. He's not - he's an *entertainer*. Even Fox News themselves will tell you that he's considered "entertainment" - something that Jon Stewart and the Daily Show pointed out showing the source of that information.

His job is to get ratings for Fox - and he apparently does that job. He brings eyeballs to the channel.

Jon Stewart and the Daily Show are not entertainers ? WOW

Guest 11-21-2009 09:14 AM

Liberal Problem
 
When Liberals have fear they turn quickly to destruction without stopping to use common sense.

When they fear Palin or Beck they try to destroy them personally by attacking them the way a vulture goes after its prey.

Liberals are now using the "attack the messenger" as a standard way of getting off the important issues.

Too bad for Liberals. This approach may work short term but long term it will do them in.

Guest 11-21-2009 09:30 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 234708)
When Liberals have fear they turn quickly to destruction without stopping to use common sense.

When they fear Palin or Beck they try to destroy them personally by attacking them the way a vulture goes after its prey.

Liberals are now using the "attack the messenger" as a standard way of getting off the important issues.

Too bad for Liberals. This approach may work short term but long term it will do them in.

Nothing worse than an "Attack Vulture." I had one when I was a kid and it keep attacking my neighbor's "Messenger Pigeons." Not a pretty sight. I had to retrain it to only attack road kill or other dead creatures. As it turned out -it must have worked because the modern Vulture doesn't attack anything that shows signs of life.

Guest 11-21-2009 11:02 AM

Funny how you look at Fox (top rated news show), Rush (top rated talk radio show), Sarah Palin (#1 best seller before it's even released) and many others, yet liberals keep trying to convince themselves that conservatism is dead.

Look who they attack and you'll see who they are afraid of. Wish I was there to cheer Beck on. There's still a few who see the truth.

Guest 11-21-2009 01:02 PM

I like Beck if for no other reason that he was instrumental in getting rid of Van Jones.

Guest 11-21-2009 01:49 PM

Trying Hard
 
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Posted by Guest (Post 234717)
Nothing worse than an "Attack Vulture." I had one when I was a kid and it keep attacking my neighbor's "Messenger Pigeons." Not a pretty sight. I had to retrain it to only attack road kill or other dead creatures. As it turned out -it must have worked because the modern Vulture doesn't attack anything that shows signs of life.

You are trying to be funny ,I think, too bad you can't stay with the discussion.

If what you said is true then it may be funny after all.

Guest 11-21-2009 08:16 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 234664)
We are truly lucky to have someone like Glenn Beck who is not an entertainer but rather a watchdog who takes time to do what we should do but instead wait for someone else to do it and then be critical.

Tonight he said the 9/12 plan is to reconnect with the values and principles,
he said America is great and that is what makes it good, and 9/12 is not meant to ever endorse a candidate. He also said The Village's is a wonderful place.
Now maybe someone can tell me how this makes him somone to dislike? How his words are anti American?:clap2:

I dislike him because he comes off to me as disingenuous. He *appears* to me to be a demagogue. He has, IN MY OPINION, tapped into the many insecurities in this country and whipped people up into a frenzy. I wasn't really sure what to make of him until that famous "Obama hates white people" / "I don't hink he hates white people" comment.

I treat him like I do any entertainer. The difference between him and Jon Stewart, just for starters, is Stewart makes me laugh. Beck is trying to make people angry - trying to make them feel threatened.

But when I think about it, I can give you a very personal reason as to why I don't like Mr. Beck. Please don't laugh - I'm serious about this. He reminds me of my ex-wife. My ex-wife ALWAYS just KNEW what I was thinking, no matter what I said. If I did something and she asked me to explain my actions, the explanation didn't matter - she already had it in her head that I must be up to something "nefarious" - I'm not kiddin - she actually used that word IN WRITING when we needed something notarized during the divorce proceeding (which required a xerox of her driver's license and her social security number). The fact that I memorized her license and social secuirity numbers almost 2 decades previously didn't matter.

And that's what gets me - when facts don't matter. I'm sorry, but Occam's Razor is another principle I like to apply. Kind of like "follow the money" as well.

It's not that I 'hate' Glen Beck. I can't say that I'm THAT emotionally invested in an entertainer to "hate" them. It's the followers that can scare me, to be honest. Beck has a platform - and he uses it. You can agree or disagree with him, but don't think for a minute that it's NOT entertainment.

It's kind of like the bumper sticker I saw ages ago that I really liked...

"I love Jesus too - It's his fan club that scares me"

Guest 11-21-2009 08:17 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 234665)
Jon Stewart and the Daily Show are not entertainers ? WOW

Please show me where I said they were not entertainers.

Go on. I'll wait. I have plenty of time.

Guest 11-21-2009 08:26 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 234741)
Funny how you look at Fox (top rated news show), Rush (top rated talk radio show), Sarah Palin (#1 best seller before it's even released) and many others, yet liberals keep trying to convince themselves that conservatism is dead.

Look who they attack and you'll see who they are afraid of. Wish I was there to cheer Beck on. There's still a few who see the truth.

I don't think conservatism is dead at all. In fact, stay with me as this won't sound right, I believe that conservatism is why Obama got elected.

By the time the 2008 election rolled around, McCain was no longer a conservative. Since McCain was espousing a "more of the same" mantra during the campaign, he'd clearly abandoned his formerly conservative priciples. This is NOT the same man I voted for in the 2000 New Hampshire primary!

Without going into a long, drawn-out discussion about why I have that opinion, I'll simply present a graphic example. It was inconceivable that McCain, who was so outspoken against torture, was suddenly waffling on the subject. Him, of ALL people, a former POW.

Nobody hat yet conviced me why, for example, waterboarding was "torture" and a war crime for which Japanese were prosecuted after WWII, yet it was ok for US to do it 60 years late. I'm still waiting for a convincing explanation. (Especially in light of study after study showing that torture doesn't work - it only makes the victims say what you want them to say)

So here you have no real conservative candidate.

HOWEVER - you have a candidate that the REST of the world seems to like so at least we can score some foreign policy points to help our god-awful reputation overseas. You also have a candidate who is going to try and step in and do something about the recession - whereas McCain was talking "more tax cuts" that were, rightly or wrongly, perceived as 'for the rich'.

So you get what my daughter called the "Obamacans". The same phenomenon that produced the "Reagan Democrats" 28 years earlier.

I tell you - if there was a VIABLE 3rd party candidate who espoused keeping the government out of your wallet (like the Republicans) *and* out of your bedroom (like the Democrats), I think that person would win in a landslide.


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