attacking the messenger and completely ignore the message.

I also do not believe that continual harping about any messengers past is of any value if the current message is true, germain, applicable, real, not a lye and investigate-able!!!

I guess it takes a little more effort and understanding to disagree with a position without having to mud sling or talk down.

btk

Originally Posted by sista

Beck is very outspoken on the point that he abhors the far let progressives and their "transform America" agenda. If a Democrat or Republican progressive watches Beck's program they will surely feel attacked.

And I do, so is that his intent, to make me feel attacked rather than reasoned with in an attempt to gain my support for what he feels is the right direction for the country. Make me mad and you have one more enemy, educate me to your truth and you have an supporter. I do thank you sista for your directness and apparent honesty. You state fact and not just say things to aggravate the debate into an argument. You could persuade lots of left wing folks on the fence to fall off the fence in your direction. Thank you and continue to talk about these issues with your attitude.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

Bingo!! When one's prejudices are exposed, it can be a shock and with the shock can come anger at the one exposing it. Very nicely and succinctly said Sista; Bravo!!

All I glean from this post is that Richie wants hate and disagreement rather than a coming together. I can be brought on board, but not when you continue to insult me. Richie, lets talk not insult and maybe we can agree on some things and agree to disagree on others. Would that not be a better approach?

Originally Posted by billethkid

attacking the messenger and completely ignore the message.

I also do not believe that continual harping about any messengers past is of any value if the current message is true, germain, applicable, real, not a lye and investigate-able!!!

I guess it takes a little more effort and understanding to disagree with a position without having to mud sling or talk down.

btk

What????? Are you sure you replied to the right post Billethkid?

Beck and Limbaugh are personalities with television and radio shows. They cannot legislate or make policy. You would be better off concentrating on what the legislators of this country do and say everyday.

Originally Posted by Lou Card

All I glean from this post is that Richie wants hate and disagreement rather than a coming together. I can be brought on board, but not when you continue to insult me.

Lou, you're not listening. The hate is coming from you. It is exposed in you by someone exposing your bias, much to your consternation. Come out of the darkness.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

Lou, you're not listening. The hate is coming from you. It is exposed in you by someone exposing your bias, much to your consternation. Come out of the darkness.

Richie, you are not listening. The hate is coming from you. It is exposed every time you reply to one of my posts. I am begging you to have a discussion with me to either agree with me or change my way of thinking, but you remain in the darkness and refuse to talk civil and constantly state that you think I am an idiot. You never address what I say, but only the character of my person.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

Lou, you're not listening. The hate is coming from you. It is exposed in you by someone exposing your bias, much to your consternation. Come out of the darkness.

I have read though this 3 times and will have to agree with Mr. Lion.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

Lou, you're not listening. The hate is coming from you. It is exposed in you by someone exposing your bias, much to your consternation. Come out of the darkness.

RichieLion you are so correct.

However it is better not to question a Liberal mind with facts because it makes them mad.

When they are mad, which is most of the time, they will accuse you of what they are guilty of and you get nowhere with them.

Originally Posted by villa2

I have read though this 3 times and will have to agree with Mr. Lion.

Great post Villa2. You read it three times and agree with Richie. I will go back an read it all again myself. I may very well be wrong on this one. Like the fact that you are convinced one way and were not negative. I may even owe Richie an apology. Thanks for your direct yet civil comment.

I guess the message here is that if Glenn is right about what he says, how he says it is immaterial to the facts and I am thin skinned to take it personally when I think he is being mean to me and other liberals. That is definitely a possibility. I don't see the need to be mean, but maybe that is just his way of getting me to hear him. It don't work for me, but I can see his intent.

Originally Posted by villa2

I'll take Bill Clinton

You set the bar pretty high, huh?

weapons of mass destruction was a minor infraction in your mind.

Originally Posted by cashman

RichieLion you are so correct.

However it is better not to question a Liberal mind with facts because it makes them mad.

When they are mad, which is most of the time, they will accuse you of what they are guilty of and you get nowhere with them.

Negative!! No response

Originally Posted by actor

weapons of mass destruction was a minor infraction in your mind.

Are you calling Clinton, Kerry, the entire Us congress liars?

They like Bush All were convinced that the weapons were their for many resons including the fact that Sadam Had already used them to kill hundeds of thousands of his fellow citizens.

Originally Posted by RichieLion

say goodnight Gracie.

to argue with a child.

Originally Posted by cashman

Are you calling Clinton, Kerry, the entire Us congress liars?

They like Bush All were convinced that the weapons were their for many resons including the fact that Sadam Had already used them to kill hundeds of thousands of his fellow citizens.

Not sure and can swallow this without a cold draft, but I agree with cashman on this one. I still think they might have been there and even still may be moved around, but somewhere in the region right now.