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Guest 11-05-2008 10:21 AM

That’s precisely the other phenomenon that will occur over the coming years. No matter how far BO runs us into the ditch, the media will always blame Bush. I can hear the quotes now. “Well, BO tried to fix it but Bush had things so screwed up there was no way it could be fixed. It was all way worse than anyone ever told us.”

If you really take a hard honest look at the last 6 years, the economy was actually very strong even though we are fighting two wars. The FACT is, things started to turn when the Democrats took control of congress and we all know that congress are ones that control the purse strings not the president.

The second FACT is that the failure of Freddie and Fannie were the direct result of Democrats blocking regulation to fix the problem. You can’t ignore the facts; the Freddie and Fannie live congressional hearings are on YouTube for everyone to watch. The Democrats even accused the Republicans of being on a witch hunt when they tried to fix Freddie and Fannie. What happened two years later? They both failed in a big way and the Republicans got blamed. How does that work?

BO made it abundantly clear every single night what he intends to do with our tax code. It WILL kill business and crush the economy. But it will somehow always be the Republicans fault.

I'll stop commenting now and move on. We'll see where we end up.

Guest 11-05-2008 10:36 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 171599)
Historical night indeed. Lets just hope all get behind him. Was very nice for once to see McCain tell the poeple that were booing to stop at his speech. I was so gald to Obama win Floirda also. Alot of people showed their trust in the system and him as a person.

Thank you. Now we all have to work together to get the job done & restore our country. No more division, fear and/or racism. This is too serious.

Michael Moore (yes, that Michael Moore) has also summed up the feelings of many of us in this message:

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/me...dex.php?id=240

Guest 11-05-2008 10:51 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 171615)
I don't think most people grasp the consequence of last nights election. Believe me, they will.

always good to know almost 63 million people know something, heck even Ohio and Florida and Virginia got on the bus. I guess we could all be wrong, maybe we have already got it.

Guest 11-05-2008 11:02 AM

Huh???
 
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Posted by Guest (Post 171669)
That’s precisely the other phenomenon that will occur over the coming years. No matter how far BO runs us into the ditch, the media will always blame Bush. I can hear the quotes now. “Well, BO tried to fix it but Bush had things so screwed up there was no way it could be fixed. It was all way worse than anyone ever told us.”

If you really take a hard honest look at the last 6 years, the economy was actually very strong even though we are fighting two wars. The FACT is, things started to turn when the Democrats took control of congress and we all know that congress are ones that control the purse strings not the president.

The second FACT is that the failure of Freddie and Fannie were the direct result of Democrats blocking regulation to fix the problem. You can’t ignore the facts; the Freddie and Fannie live congressional hearings are on YouTube for everyone to watch. The Democrats even accused the Republicans of being on a witch hunt when they tried to fix Freddie and Fannie. What happened two years later? They both failed in a big way and the Republicans got blamed. How does that work?

BO made it abundantly clear every single night what he intends to do with our tax code. It WILL kill business and crush the economy. But it will somehow always be the Republicans fault.

I'll stop commenting now and move on. We'll see where we end up.

DK, did you post this twice because you think we missed this too? :1rotfl:

Guest 11-05-2008 11:06 AM

I think it should be noted that my esteemed partner up there is now in the minority.
:laugh:

Guest 11-05-2008 11:15 AM

DKlassen, You are so right. The media has been brutal from the first day Bush took office. It's a joke that Dodd and Frank are in charge of fixing the mortgage crisis when they are one of the main causes of it. It's been the last two years that things have gone south, but you'll never hear it from the MSM. they wonder why their circulation is down. DUH!!!

Guest 11-05-2008 11:23 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 171669)
That’s precisely the other phenomenon that will occur over the coming years. No matter how far BO runs us into the ditch, the media will always blame Bush. I can hear the quotes now. “Well, BO tried to fix it but Bush had things so screwed up there was no way it could be fixed. It was all way worse than anyone ever told us.”

If you really take a hard honest look at the last 6 years, the economy was actually very strong even though we are fighting two wars. The FACT is, things started to turn when the Democrats took control of congress and we all know that congress are ones that control the purse strings not the president.

The second FACT is that the failure of Freddie and Fannie were the direct result of Democrats blocking regulation to fix the problem. You can’t ignore the facts; the Freddie and Fannie live congressional hearings are on YouTube for everyone to watch. The Democrats even accused the Republicans of being on a witch hunt when they tried to fix Freddie and Fannie. What happened two years later? They both failed in a big way and the Republicans got blamed. How does that work?

BO made it abundantly clear every single night what he intends to do with our tax code. It WILL kill business and crush the economy. But it will somehow always be the Republicans fault.

I'll stop commenting now and move on. We'll see where we end up.

Here's another take on the economic crisis: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...ic_crisis.html

It basically says the crisis was due to a collective effort, not just the Republicans, or Democrats. The information is non-partisan, from factcheck.org

But I think if the country is going to heal, we have to get past the "blame" stage, and fix what's wrong. One reason many people voted for Obama is that he comes across as an intelligent, charismatic leader, who can bridge the divides in this country to accomplish what needs to be done. Only time will tell.

Guest 11-05-2008 11:36 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 171689)
DKlassen, You are so right. The media has been brutal from the first day Bush took office. It's a joke that Dodd and Frank are in charge of fixing the mortgage crisis when they are one of the main causes of it. It's been the last two years that things have gone south, but you'll never hear it from the MSM. they wonder why their circulation is down. DUH!!!

Yes the media has been brutal, not only to Bush but to Obama. He has taken a beating from the McCain Camp on everything that the media pushed on. From Ayers to being a Muslim. The election is over, and it seems the majority of the country thought that also. If McCain had ran his ralleys as he did his speech lastnight, he would have got more. Even his Joe The Plumber Ohio turned on him.
Lets all give it a break and see what happens, you never know.

Guest 11-05-2008 11:56 AM

The media was Obama's best friend. They are always bias to the left, but this election they where way over the top. Even some Democrats seemed embarrassed by the fawning. They did very little vetting. Sarah Palin was raked over the coals like nothing I've ever seen before.

Guest 11-05-2008 12:00 PM

My daughter Boomette, the longtime Democrat, just called. She said that supposedly the Democrats who got Republican seats are more moderate Democrats or know they have to be because they got Republican votes and they will want to keep their new jobs.

I don't know about all that, but Boomette makes a study of these things.

Boomette and I were hopeful together this morning. Ol' moderate Republican me and the daughter who tells me I brought her up to be a Democrat. Who knew???

Anyway, part of the hope I have is the hope that surely we as citizens will keep a much closer eye on our government than we have been. Congress has nearly slaughtered us in our sleep. We can't forget that.

Boomer

Guest 11-05-2008 12:26 PM

As a postscript to dklassen's claim that Obama is not pro Israel, according to CNN Obama got 78% of the Jewish vote. I think that pretty much speaks for itself.

Guest 11-05-2008 01:03 PM

I have said in several posts today....
 
BHO is no different than ALL other prospective candidates in that they will say whatever has to be said to get elected. Lest we forget....HE IS A POLITICIAN whose priority has always been to get elected....it's what they do.
I am willing to wait and see if he can deliver, because like it or not...none of us know whether he can or will be able to....all we can do is wait and see.
Those who are already clucking about what he will do are entitled to their opinion.
History has shown that politicians delivery after the win is not even close to the promises made before being elected.
In that regard, BHO is no different until HE PROVES OTHERWISE....
I for example past Presidents would have delivered there would be no energy crisis....how many promised to see that would not happen, both parties.
How many past Presidents were going to see to it there was adequate health care/ Most every one including the Clintons. How many past Presidents were going to be sure to fixx social security so future generations won't have the problem at hand (THEN)? Most of them.

I don't think I have to name any more than those three. They ALL promised change. How sad we can't even look to any one of the issues above and say yeah, but at least there was some improvement. In fact they are all SIGNIFICANTLY worse off than before or after any of them took office....and they were there before some of your favorite George W. Bush.

History has duly recorded there is rare connection between talking the talk and delivering the goods.

So history documents that no one party should be so critical of another when they have each had their turn at....FAILURE to deliver what is important to we the people.

The only realistic statement I have seen since the election is from those who say...he has a long hard road to haul all those promises. We'll see.
I view he has as much chance of making the changes promised as we the people have in getting the silent majority to demand our President, regardless who, do their :cus: job and deliver on that which got them the job in the first place. We all know how futile a reality that goal is!!!!!
So, we'll see.

BTK

Guest 11-05-2008 01:34 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 171704)
The media was Obama's best friend. They are always bias to the left, but this election they where way over the top. Even some Democrats seemed embarrassed by the fawning. They did very little vetting. Sarah Palin was raked over the coals like nothing I've ever seen before.


When you accuse people like she did, has no clue as to what her job entailed let alone try to explain it. That is what happens. if you live in a glass house expect it. i wish i would of counted everytime i heard her say terrorist associations. i would be rich.

Guest 11-05-2008 01:39 PM

I certainly wish President-elct Obama Godspeed. I started a thread hoping God will give wisdom to our new President. I will support him but also maintian my viligence that he remembers this quote from Abraham Lincoln,,,,

"You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.
You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
You cannot build character and courage by taking away men's initiative and independence.
You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves. "

Guest 11-05-2008 02:20 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 171667)
That’s precisely the other phenomenon that will occur over the coming years. No matter how far BO runs us into the ditch, the media will always blame Bush. I can hear the quotes now. “Well, BO tried to fix it but Bush had things so screwed up there was no way it could be fixed. It was way worse than anyone ever told us.”

If you really take a hard honest look at the last 6 years, the economy was actually very strong even though we are fighting two wars. The FACT is, things started to turn when the Democrats took control of congress and we all know that congress are ones that control the purse strings not the president.

The second FACT is that the failure of Freddie and Fannie was the direct result of Democrats blocking regulation to fix the problem. You can’t ignore the facts; the Freddie and Fannie live congressional hearings are on YouTube for everyone to watch. During those, the Democrats even accused the Republicans of being on a witch hunt when they tried to fix Freddie and Fannie. What happened two years later? They both failed in a big way and the Republicans got blamed. How does that work?

BO made it abundantly clear every single night what he intends to do with our tax code. It WILL kill business and crush the economy. But it will somehow always be the Republicans fault no matter what he does.

I'll sign off now and stop commenting. We'll see where we end up.

For what it's worth... the Dow wasn't celebrating the results of the election as of noon today.


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