aaaannnnnddddd.......?:shrug:

btk

Yepper, I know where you live and I am looking forward to the next round of poker. Looks like you guys need some more lessons. *S*

Buggy, even in full boby armour, its not all that you think it is. Anytime you start getting hit it hurts. Did you know that a frontal shot from a 45 ACP in to fully body armour will still knock you to the ground and a 12 gauge shotgun slug will kill you. It crushes your strum into your heart. Unless he was using ceramic plates the armour can be penatrated by a 22 long rifle. Also since he was wearing a gas mask, a head shot would have taken him out. Everyone really needs to get the facts when it comes to firearms, body armour and the rest of the stuff.

Even bouncing the little .380 or .25 auto off of him would have rattled him to the point that quite likely many lives would have been saved.

I would venture to guess that Holmes had never been shot at. You don't realize the amount of "pucker" factor that takes place when bullets start zipping around you and hitting you. Even in body armour.

I suppose that we should ban all vehicles with more tghan a 50 hp engine. Speed kills. And maybe we should ban alcohol, because stupid people who drive also kill people. Oh wait, we tried that back in the 30's and it did not work then.

Figmo, as I had posted earlier in the response to Ladydoc, that I would have thought there would have been at least one offduty police officer with a handgun in a filled theater - and that would have been better than none. No agrument with a police officer carrying a concealed weapon when off-duty.

I know you have the thing taught about stressful situations. What could have been more stressful to an inexperienced gun handler? More people could have been killed if an inexperienced gun handler had pulled out his/her .380 or .25 auto and started slinging rounds around willy-nilly.

You never know when you need personal protection. If the need for a defensive weapon could be definitely predicted, that would be a very useful thing.

I have a friend who must carry nitroglycerin pills because of a heart condition. He's never needed to take one for all the years he's carried them

But he must "carry" just in case, because "what if".

I have a feeling you'll reject my analogy, but the point is made.

Your friend must have a previous heart problem so he carries the pills in case another heart problem presents itself. He did not start carrying the pills when he was completely healthy.

The Villages is like your very healthy heart. There is no problem with it. So like the nitro pills that are not needed to carry for a healthy heart, there is no reason to carry a pistol in The Villages.

Like your friend with the heart issue, IF The Villages had a pre-existing condition with hold-ups of Villagers in parking lots or routine sexual assaults of women behind buildings or other violent criminal behavior that made it unsafe to be on the streets - carrying a concealed weapon might be a pretty good idea to prevent it from happening. :beer3:

You mean violence would have to be routine before you carry personal protection?

I hope you don't mind if I would rather not be one of the early victims of violence in your nonsensical analogy.

Buggyone, here is some interesting facts for you.

Myth: Only police should have guns

Fact: “...most criminals are more worried about meeting an armed victim than they are about running into the police.”

Fact: 11% of police shootings kill an innocent person - about 2% of shootings by citizens kill an innocent person.

Fact: Police have trouble keeping their own guns. Hundreds of firearms are missing from the FBI and 449 of them have been involved in crimes.

Fact: People who saw the helplessness of the L.A. Police Department during the 1992 King Riots or the looting and violence in New Orleans after hurricane Katrina know that citizens need guns to defend themselves.

Google Gun Facts Version 6.0, you will find that it is interesting reading. You might even learn something.

Me, with the above facts, I would be more trusting of the armed citizen than I would of the armed off duty police officer. :spoken: :shrug: :shrug:

Your opinion is fine with me, Figgy. No problem at all.
Yours, too, Richie. :beer3: