Villiager II You cannot compare Santorum to bin Laden because in the Muslim world they do not have gays because when they find them they mysteriously disappear.

Santorum is offering a moral vision that once was common place in America. Somewhere along the way we lost our moral footing and good became bad and bad became good. Character was replaced with personality (Kardashians ,et al come to mind) and thus hero worship goes to drug oriented rock and roll stars, actors whose exploits are intentional in order to get publicity. Family and family values are gone leaving young people with no real role models....you get the picture.
Marriage as defined between a man and woman is critical for society to remain in tact. to change it is to open a pandora's box. I have always admitted that I am a nominal Catholic but the fact is that I believe we need to move back to more prayer. finally suffering is an important aspect of humanity. Ask anyone who has gone through a serious illness and they will tell you it made them a better person.

Our society is upside down and we need more people like Santorum to speak up
or we will follow Rome into history

You are misrepresenting and blatantly lying about Santorum. When did he ever say gays are animals.

You are becoming deranged. That's your clarification.

More blatant lying about Santorum. More derangement from the "uber"-left.

You are crazed in your lying about Santorum.

Great post !!!

I, also was struck, that his theme would be well received a number of years ago, but we are now a society that enables those that want the gratification and are so used to being able to do whatever they want with absolutely no recourse.

Are you going to send me another crying PM if I call you out for your childish name calling again. Your pathetic name calling is your imbecilic calling card.

Your post above if so full of crap, and only a moron would infer what you have from my support of Santorum, and nothing else. Karma going to bite you, mark my words.

Please all refrain from directing comments at a user but keep focused on the topic. Enjoy!

I just started reading this thread a short time ago, and as I read further and further I became more and more outraged by what I read and how shamelessly and blatantly those on the left were lying about everything like:

• party affiliation - If someone who constantly voices extreme liberal views and behavior then claims they're a Republican or Conservative then I'm a Wig of Cocker Spaniel heritage that's old enough to have been around to help in the formation of the party.
• outright and blatant lying about what Santorum stated in the video and the article out of CBS. Santorum never once mentioned blacks in his comments and I listened through it twice. It was falsely injected into the article by the CBS writer and the libbers on here were more than happy to continue the lie and even embellish it to the extreme.
• a series of Santorum quotes that were taken out of context so they could be spun into a meaning that does not reflect his views accurately but rather to use the quotes to promote their own agenda and source of bashing.

There is more but this will suffice since I'm up way later than I want to be because of this disgusting, dishonest cruelty and nonsense.

I joined TOTV well over a year ago and I resisted until a few days ago from joining the political forum because I didn't want to get into political discussions. I was also told how nasty the Democrats could get on it, but didn't really think much about it. What triggered me to join was someone's asking how to join the Political Forum along with a comment from Moderator that I felt was not right, personally annoying but at the same time not offensive. So I figured that I've taken enough of left wing subtle political digs that they kept getting away with and it was time to take a look see.

What I found was that there are good people there, but there were enough trouble makers and instigators that want nothing more than to outright lie, deceive, spin and carefully take things to the limit of respectfulness, and sometime beyond, to discredit those who have views that don't align with theirs. I've even been falsely accused of being disrespectful by one of those left-wing people I am talking about. In several years, especially the last four, of following politics on the national level, I've seen many instenses of lying two-faced deceitful politicians that were deceiving the American people to get their agenda moved forward. But what I've found here has outdone them all. Their mitigated gall and imaturity really bakes the cake!

So it's after 2 AM now and I'm going to conclude this message by saying thank you to all the good honest people that have said some really nice things to me. And to the disrespectful troublemakers, you'll have to read my mind because what I'm thinking wouldn't be proper to post here. Finally, I apologize to those that have asked me not to leave, but my health has to take precedence over this forum. Once I post this message I will be unsubscribing for at least a while, and go back to the less annoying stuff that occasionally pops into view in the other forums.

Since I won't be on this thread anymore, you'll have to pm me if you have any comments. If you're one of the left-wingers I'm refering to, you don't need to contact me since and I'll probably just delete it because I'm not interested in anything you have to say, unless it's an apology, but I won't hold my breath waiting. If you get nasty or disrespectful, I will definitely forward your message and a complaint to Admin.

So long and see you good people on the other side.

Santorum is a bigot and anyone that would support him is a supporter of bigotry.

I don't agree with Obama on so many issues pertaining to spending, but you have to give him a thumbs up on being a good Christian man when compared to Santorum the bigot.

I desperately want to vote for Romney and if exposing Santorum's bigotry helps that action, then so be it. My fellow Christian conservatives wish to condemn me because I have an opinion. You ask me to prove Santorum is a bigot, REALLY. Pull you head out of the FOX News channel and into the rest of the media and see the light. Maybe your right and I am a man without a party to match my personality. The True conservative box is a small area. Their vision of a perfect world is:

NO GAY PEOPLE
NO NON-CHRISTIANS
NO ONE WITH AN OPEN MIND

5 OF THE SIX PAC ARE BACK WITH A VENGEANCE.

To be precise, he compares gay sex to bestiality.

A longer quote of his that shows his blind spot when it comes to sex:

Consensual sex outside of marriage is not bigamy. Marrying more than one person is.

Consensual sex is not polygamy. It could be polyamory depending on how you really feel about them.

Incest is another matter entirely and usually only prosecuted when one of the 'partners' is underage.

Oh, but if the CHURCH is doing it, he takes a completely different attitude:
He participates in what my semantics teacher taught as as one of the seven tactics that loses debates - in this case "reducto ad absurdum" - reducing to the absurd:
Having that kind of relationship with five people could actually probably be handled by the legal entity known as a "corporation".

But back to the point. In NH, Santorum denied comparing homosexuality to bestiality. Well, boys and girls, here it is - from a 2003 USA Today interview:

The "it's not" referred to "marriage". Later on, when pressed, Santorum has tried to say the "it's not" referred to homosexuality. But when you look at his other quotes, the pattern is clear.

[quote=djplong;450793]To be precise, he compares gay sex to bestiality.

Thanks for this post. I let it become personal and can't get my point accross. I only have dislike for Santorum for his bigatry.

You write this long, and you think scholarly post and you are misguided. You are wrong in you thinking and you are perpetrating a falsehood and you should be ashamed of yourself, or at least troubled by your cognitive thinking.

SANTORUM HAS NEVER, AND IS NOT NOW TALKING ABOUT GAY SEX!!!!

He is talking about marriage!!!!; traditional marriage as handed down from our ancestors for thousands of years.

Go back and read his quote and try to keep it in context. He's talking about marriage.

Your twisting of his intent is maybe more hateful than what you accuse him of.

[quote=The Villager II;450798]Another post lying about what Santorum is saying and showing more hate than i thought you capable of, and I thought you capable of a lot.

Is Senator Santorum running for President of the US or priest or pope? What does any of this have to do with solving the problems this country faces? Can anyone post what his plan is for creating jobs, solving the housing crisis, or his foreign policy?

I personally don't care what his religious philosopy is, and I hope he doesn't care about mine. BTW, Sen Santorum lost his reelection bid for senator in 2006 by 18 points in PA, the largest loss suffered by an incumbant since 1980.

I admire the fact that you dont care about his religious philosophy and simply how he would act as our President !!!

Now, if you could just influence the liberal media to stop harping on that issue alone, and also those "elite" on this board that are bound and determined to make that the singular issue.

Not sure I understand what your last sentence has to do with ANYTHING !!!