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Guest 02-10-2012 07:05 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 451493)
Marriage came into being as a way to formalize land ownership and inheritance laws. Go learn about the history of the church. Remembers priests could be married until the 12th century....the church wanted to land that the priests family held. They did not want it going to wives and children. Love had little, if anything, to do with marriage. . And homosexuals think they are tax paying citizens who deserve equal rights. Your tone itself insinuates they are second class citizens and that is unacceptable.

And your tone presumes something I neither think nor said.

I was talking about contemporary homosexual militant activists who seem to think traditional wisdom handed down thru the ages since Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and down thru our nation's founding fathers was the wisdom of "fools".

Our nation's constitution and institution of legal marriage did not last this long based on the wisdom of fools.

Guest 02-10-2012 09:21 PM

War is OK....love isn't. I do not understand why some people have a problem with other peoples happiness.

Guest 02-10-2012 09:36 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 451567)
War is OK....love isn't. I do not understand why some people have a problem with other peoples happiness.

I sure wish you would say more on this, as I dont understand fully your meaning !

There are people who find happiness in many things that are not legal. Is the thrust of what you say that if it makes you happy, then you should be allowed to do it ? Of course you will need money and support from somewhere but then once you get enough money and others who support what makes you happy, then it becomes legal ?

Guest 02-11-2012 04:09 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 451571)
I sure wish you would say more on this, as I dont understand fully your meaning !

There are people who find happiness in many things that are not legal. Is the thrust of what you say that if it makes you happy, then you should be allowed to do it ? Of course you will need money and support from somewhere but then once you get enough money and others who support what makes you happy, then it becomes legal ?

That is the best twist of someones words I have seen in a long time. What Waynet said was clear and to the point and very easy to understand.

Guest 02-11-2012 04:26 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 451272)
no one is suggesting that gay partners should be subject to such discrimination and loss of assets that dpjlong describes. this problem can be resolved legally with civil unions without changing the definition of marriage. but that is never good enough for the "gay rights" agenda, which insists on insinuating gays into every aspect of family life and getting society to accept a deviant behaviour as normal and healthy and desirable.

I thought that considering gays as deviants was a thing of the past. :ohdear:
I think that most gays are just as normal and healthy as straights.

Guest 02-11-2012 04:34 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 451625)
I thought that considering gays as deviants was a thing of the past. :ohdear:
I think that most gays are just as normal and healthy as straights.

They are unless you fall into the 6 pac mentality.

Guest 02-11-2012 11:44 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 451627)
They are unless you fall into the 6 pac mentality.

Still acting the lunkhead. You're always betraying your true nature, and you never realize it.

Someday you'll be able to stay on topic, instead of your gratuitous attempts at insulting those you cannot debate with intelligence.

Guest 02-11-2012 12:30 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 451743)
Still acting the lunkhead. You're always betraying your true nature, and you never realize it.

Someday you'll be able to stay on topic, instead of your gratuitous attempts at insulting those you cannot debate with intelligence.

Thanks Richie. I need the encouragement. I agree I cannot debate anyone with intelligence that I do not posses. I can only speak the truth and I do appreciate your recognition of that.

Guest 02-11-2012 01:17 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 451788)
Thanks Richie. I need the encouragement. I agree I cannot debate anyone with intelligence that I do not posses. I can only speak the truth and I do appreciate your recognition of that.

??????????recognition; always the dreamer. It's good to dream, I guess.

Guest 02-11-2012 01:26 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 451389)
ChaChaCha is correct. Gingrich said clearly in a recent debate, and I think Romney said also, that civil union type rights can be granted under the law without redefining Marriage as it was instituted thousands of years ago.

Just who do contemporary homosexuals think they ARE, pushing to redefine the most fundamental criteria--one man and one woman--of marriage which has been the very bedrock of civilizations, societies, and the regeneration of life itself????

Thousands of years ago, marriage was about PROPERTY - as in the women who were PROPERTY of their husbands. It was about landowners teaming up - or kingdoms forming alliances.

Heck, even today we haven't totally eradicated the whole bit about arranged marriages and other forced pairbonding in some parts of the world!

We have redefined marriage in comparatively RECENT times to mean two people who love each other.. And, let's face it, until not long ago, a woman couldn't exactly say no to a proposal in most places.

Guest 02-11-2012 02:54 PM

My wife and I put money down on a lot in The Villages with the idea of moving there. But, reading this forum, I do not know if I can stand living in a place full of Leftist Loonies. Rick Santorum is no bigot, and he is a good, decent man. He is not a Communist like we have in the White House now. I would vote for any of the Republicans for President as they are all better than BHO! Even Romney, RINO that he is, would be an improvement.

I wish I had found this forum before we committed to a house to be built, I find lots to be concerned with. Another forum implied that cars should run over the golf carts, don't wait for them. Found some nasty person when we were on Lifestyle tour trying out golf carts, very impatient, acting like a New Yorker.

So much for "Florida'sw Friendliest Hometown". Might be worth losing deposit if this is what we have to put up with.

Guest 02-11-2012 03:00 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 451842)
My wife and I put money down on a lot in The Villages with the idea of moving there. But, reading this forum, I do not know if I can stand living in a place full of Leftist Loonies. Rick Santorum is no bigot, and he is a good, decent man. He is not a Communist like we have in the White House now. I would vote for any of the Republicans for President as they are all better than BHO! Even Romney, RINO that he is, would be an improvement.

I wish I had found this forum before we committed to a house to be built, I find lots to be concerned with. Another forum implied that cars should run over the golf carts, don't wait for them. Found some nasty person when we were on Lifestyle tour trying out golf carts, very impatient, acting like a New Yorker.

So much for "Florida'sw Friendliest Hometown". Might be worth losing deposit if this is what we have to put up with.


Interesting post, Bavarian...After a year as a member of this forum, there are several folks that I doubt I would ever want to meet in person. It is difficult to dispute your conclusion. :ohdear:

Guest 02-11-2012 03:03 PM

"leftist loonies"? if thats what you think get your deposit back.

Guest 02-11-2012 03:34 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 451842)
My wife and I put money down on a lot in The Villages with the idea of moving there. But, reading this forum, I do not know if I can stand living in a place full of Leftist Loonies. Rick Santorum is no bigot, and he is a good, decent man. He is not a Communist like we have in the White House now. I would vote for any of the Republicans for President as they are all better than BHO! Even Romney, RINO that he is, would be an improvement.

I wish I had found this forum before we committed to a house to be built, I find lots to be concerned with. Another forum implied that cars should run over the golf carts, don't wait for them. Found some nasty person when we were on Lifestyle tour trying out golf carts, very impatient, acting like a New Yorker.

So much for "Florida'sw Friendliest Hometown". Might be worth losing deposit if this is what we have to put up with.

IMHO, this is a very friendly place. You will need a sense of humour and the ability to "go with the flow" to be happy in TV. I truly hope you have made the right decision.

It will only be "Florida's Friendliest Hometown" for you, if you also do your part. I respectfully suggest that you should watch the labels! You are referring to people as Leftist Loonies. You've referred to a nasty person as "acting like a New Yorker". I'm not from NY, but I find that to be an unfriendly comment!

Guest 02-11-2012 04:42 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 451842)
My wife and I put money down on a lot in The Villages with the idea of moving there. But, reading this forum, I do not know if I can stand living in a place full of Leftist Loonies. Rick Santorum is no bigot, and he is a good, decent man. He is not a Communist like we have in the White House now. I would vote for any of the Republicans for President as they are all better than BHO! Even Romney, RINO that he is, would be an improvement.

I wish I had found this forum before we committed to a house to be built, I find lots to be concerned with. Another forum implied that cars should run over the golf carts, don't wait for them. Found some nasty person when we were on Lifestyle tour trying out golf carts, very impatient, acting like a New Yorker.

So much for "Florida'sw Friendliest Hometown". Might be worth losing deposit if this is what we have to put up with.

There is a much greater representation of "leftist loonies" on this forum than in the general Village's population; or Florida's population for that matter.

Guest 02-11-2012 07:18 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 451900)
There is a much greater representation of "leftist loonies" on this forum than in the general Village's population; or Florida's population for that matter.

I have to take exception to the last part of your sentence. There are 500,000 more registered democrats than republicans in Florida.

Guest 02-11-2012 07:20 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 451900)
There is a much greater representation of "leftist loonies" on this forum than in the general Village's population; or Florida's population for that matter.

Thanks for the encourgement. I listen to Rush and he always said FL was turning Conservative and come on down, escape the high taxes. The Maryland slogan now is "If you can dream it, we will tax it".

Guest 02-11-2012 07:22 PM

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I wish I had found this forum before we committed to a house to be built, I find lots to be concerned with. Another forum implied that cars should run over the golf carts, don't wait for them. Found some nasty person when we were on Lifestyle tour trying out golf carts, very impatient, acting like a New Yorker.

So much for "Florida'sw Friendliest Hometown". Might be worth losing deposit if this is what we have to put up with.
I have been on this forum for a couple years and have visited TV twice and I think you may have the wrong idea of what TV is.


This political forum is not a good representation of TV as a whole. I think you get more liberals in this section because they feel it is the only place they can speak freely.
Some of them are way left and some of the posters are way right also.
When I visited I found the New Yorkers there to be pleasant, more so than when I visited New York.

I think your deposit is in a good place and that you will be surrounded by many people who share your political views.
I would bet if you talk to people like your post comes across you get a reaction that matches. Maybe give everybody a chance to be nice.
I am a independent and lean right, so I am saying this as a kindred soul.
TV is a good place made up of many good people, left, right and the middle.
Enjoy your new home.

janmcn
Are saying that there are more "loonies" in Florida? I think that is what Richie was talking about not just dems.

Guest 02-11-2012 08:18 PM

Bavarian, trust me, you can't go wrong moving to The Villages. It is paradise.

Guest 02-11-2012 10:57 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 451954)
I have to take exception to the last part of your sentence. There are 500,000 more registered democrats than republicans in Florida.

So far, unlike when I lived in NJ, everyone I've voted for in 2 1/2 years in Florida has won.

The only exception being the Republican primary, where my choice was not the Republican of choice here.

Maybe Republicans are just more reliable actual active voters here.

(I did say "leftist loonies" and not Democrats, now that I think about it. I think I'm still technically correct in my original statement.)

Guest 02-12-2012 03:00 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 451957)
I have been on this forum for a couple years and have visited TV twice and I think you may have the wrong idea of what TV is.


This political forum is not a good representation of TV as a whole. I think you get more liberals in this section because they feel it is the only place they can speak freely.
Some of them are way left and some of the posters are way right also.
When I visited I found the New Yorkers there to be pleasant, more so than when I visited New York.

I think your deposit is in a good place and that you will be surrounded by many people who share your political views.
I would bet if you talk to people like your post comes across you get a reaction that matches. Maybe give everybody a chance to be nice.
I am a independent and lean right, so I am saying this as a kindred soul.
TV is a good place made up of many good people, left, right and the middle.
Enjoy your new home.

janmcn
Are saying that there are more "loonies" in Florida? I think that is what Richie was talking about not just dems.

We have been coming here for 8 years and I never meet any Democrats. If they are here, they are hiding.

Guest 02-12-2012 09:37 AM

Really? I hope that is tongue in cheek!

I could name them.

The majority are Reps and conservatives but many lefties.

Guest 02-12-2012 09:48 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 452163)
Really? I hope that is tongue in cheek!

I could name them.

The majority are Reps and conservatives but many lefties.

I exaggerated a little. I am a conservative republican at heart, but since I support rights for Gay Americans and pro-choice, I am called a liberal loony at times. One thing about the two parties, Republicans do have the loudest voice in The Villages. That works well for me at voting times, but concerns me when it comes to human rights for all issues. I personally find that most conservative republicans do not wish to compromise on any differences. No Flames please.

Guest 02-12-2012 09:49 AM

Good Lord has it come to this. That we don't even want to live in the same proximity to those of different politicial persuasions. We are rapidly becoming the 'Divided States of America'. :ohdear:

Guest 02-12-2012 09:58 AM

in reality the only place where an R or a D matters is on forums like this or in the voting booth. The other 99.8% of the time nobody cares!!! And thank GOD for that!!!!

Don't let the false worlds of the media and especially anonymous pipelines like forums fool anybody. Anonymity cloaks reality.

Most of us are satisfied to be Americans.

btk

Guest 02-12-2012 10:15 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 452175)
in reality the only place where an R or a D matters is on forums like this or in the voting booth. The other 99.8% of the time nobody cares!!! And thank GOD for that!!!!

Don't let the false worlds of the media and especially anonymous pipelines like forums fool anybody. Anonymity cloaks reality.

Most of us are satisfied to be Americans.

btk

:bigbow:

Guest 02-12-2012 11:21 AM

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in reality the only place where an R or a D matters is on forums like this or in the voting booth. The other 99.8% of the time nobody cares!!! And thank GOD for that!!!!

Don't let the false worlds of the media and especially anonymous pipelines like forums fool anybody. Anonymity cloaks reality.

Most of us are satisfied to be Americans.

btk
:bigbow::bigbow:


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