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Guest 09-28-2011 10:23 PM

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Some posters do not believe that Federal government employees are needed. I don't think he is trying to bait me. I worked for the Dept of Veterans Affairs for 36 years and I helped a great number of veterans personally and the VA helps veterans and their families every day. I resent implications that Federal government employees are worthless slugs. I did know a few but I have seen plenty more in the private sector.

Sometimes you've got to do it. You've just have to shut down the buggy whip plant.

With a simplified (Fair Tax?) system you can have an IRS that is scaled down probably 90% (I made that up for expediency) and transformed into an accounting firm with techs monitoring computer reports and calculations.

Will it affect IRS workers? Of course, but time heals all wounds and those people will survive or fail on their own initiative; but it's not our place or duty to have to provide lifetime jobs just "because".

Remember our conversation over a cold one when I tried to explain how government employees don't live in the real world of the marketplace for the reason that they can't see how any problem with incoming government revenue is applicable to the job they do. This is a wonderful example of that.

Guest 09-29-2011 08:06 AM

We could debate this forever and the answer will still be the same. We may agree that a Fair Tax is best for everyone. The IRS, though, is not going away. Cain's plans may sound wonderful - but would never get a vote in Congress. Candidates can promise the world but reality kicks in and they never can go anywhere without being watered down in Congress so much nothing looks the same.

Guest 09-29-2011 08:36 AM

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We could debate this forever and the answer will still be the same. We may agree that a Fair Tax is best for everyone. The IRS, though, is not going away. Cain's plans may sound wonderful - but would never get a vote in Congress. Candidates can promise the world but reality kicks in and they never can go anywhere without being watered down in Congress so much nothing looks the same.

I agree with you as I said previously on this tread. The problem with changing the tax code is that the people who have to vote to do it would be, in effect, reducing their own power.

Guest 09-29-2011 04:51 PM

I will tell you why I believe that the 9% National Sales Tax will work. Because the politicians are worried to death that the Baby Boomers are retiring, and the "income" tax is going to miss out on trillions as their income is replaced with pensions etc.

As a "Boomer" I'll gladly pay the 9% just to get the government out of manipulating this country and tax code.

Guest 09-30-2011 08:13 AM

Dennis Miller had a great suggestion on Bill O'Reilly the other night. It was a bumper sticker that read:
CAIN & UNABL E
Gotta love it!!

Guest 09-30-2011 08:29 AM

Last week everyone was praising Perry. How quick the polls can change the support of so many. I do agree however that Cain would be a much better choice than old crazy weird Perry.

Guest 09-30-2011 10:22 AM

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Last week everyone was praising Perry. How quick the polls can change the support of so many. I do agree however that Cain would be a much better choice than old crazy weird Perry.

Perry has been awful in the glare of the debate spotlight. He wasn't prepared for it; that's obvious. He has time to make a comeback. Can he? That's the question. He needs to expand his presence; maybe by agreeing to as many interviews as he can handle; on FOX News especially. FOX News because that's the station conservatives watch. He doesn't need to consider the left in this primary season.

Guest 09-30-2011 10:44 AM

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Last week everyone was praising Perry. How quick the polls can change the support of so many. I do agree however that Cain would be a much better choice than old crazy weird Perry.

Why that characterization? Remember "From little A.C.O.R.N.s Mighty Marxists Grow."

Guest 09-30-2011 11:58 AM

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Why that characterization? Remember "From little A.C.O.R.N.s Mighty Marxists Grow."

I think you are wrong. Neither Cain nor Perry is a Marxist. Just not capable of running this country.

Guest 09-30-2011 12:59 PM

RichieLion has a wonderful idea when he says Ricky Perry should do as many interviews as he possibly can and to do them on FOX. That is about as funny as it gets. Let a Tea Party Republican just do interviews on FOX! Let him do the interviews on all the networks and not just FOX. If they are just on FOX, it will show he is afraid of real questions from real news anchors. Of course, there is the good possibility that he will implode during real questions by real anchors like Sarah Palin did with Katie Couric. That one interview showed American voters what Palin lacked for credibility as a viable candidate. Same would happen with real questions for Ricky Perry.

Your post did give me my ROLF for the afternoon. Thanks.

Guest 09-30-2011 03:46 PM

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RichieLion has a wonderful idea when he says Ricky Perry should do as many interviews as he possibly can and to do them on FOX. That is about as funny as it gets. Let a Tea Party Republican just do interviews on FOX! Let him do the interviews on all the networks and not just FOX. If they are just on FOX, it will show he is afraid of real questions from real news anchors. Of course, there is the good possibility that he will implode during real questions by real anchors like Sarah Palin did with Katie Couric. That one interview showed American voters what Palin lacked for credibility as a viable candidate. Same would happen with real questions for Ricky Perry.

Your post did give me my ROLF for the afternoon. Thanks.

I live in the real world and not the world of your liberal fantasies, so I'll explain it again. Rick Perry is running for the REPUBLICAN NOMINATION. Rick Perry needs to present himself in a good light to REPUBLICAN VOTERS at this time. If he wants to be seen by REPUBLICAN VOTERS he will go to the media that REPUBLICAN VOTERS trust and thus watch and listen to. That network is FOX NEWS. It's not CNN, MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CBS or PBS. It's really just that simple.

After, if he is successful and has the nomination, then he might have to succumb to being attacked, lied to and lied about and generally disrespected by one or more of those leftist media arms of the Democrat Party. But that's not the case at this point in time.

Guest 10-06-2011 06:24 PM

Question about stage 4 colon cancer
 
I like herman Cain and will vote for him in the primary. However, I worry about the fact that he's in remission from stage 4 colon cancer:

1) Does he wear an Ostemy pouch to collect waste? What are the implications of that? Is there an ever present danger of infection?

2) I think he has been in remission for about 5 years. That's great! However, I can't help but wonder if we are taking too big of a risk here, and a risk to him as well, with the stress of running for office and eventually holding office. Do we have any idea of what the risk is to him and to the country?

I just think he's too good to be true and something's going to happen to spoil it all. Are we rolling the dice with him? Is he rolling the dice with his health? What are his chances of remaining cancer free?

Guest 10-06-2011 09:35 PM

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I like herman Cain and will vote for him in the primary. However, I worry about the fact that he's in remission from stage 4 colon cancer:

1) Does he wear an Ostemy pouch to collect waste? What are the implications of that? Is there an ever present danger of infection?

2) I think he has been in remission for about 5 years. That's great! However, I can't help but wonder if we are taking too big of a risk here, and a risk to him as well with the stress of running. Do we have any idea of what the risk is to him and to the country?

I just think he's too good to be true and something's going to happen to spoil it all. Are we rolling the dice with him? Is he rolling the dice with his health? What are his chances of remaining cancer free?

He said in the debate that it was a very fast spreading cancer. He's been free of it for a long time. A fast spreading one would probably have come back already if it were going to.

Beyond that, you never know with ANY candidate whether they're going to live or die in office. The whole thing is a crap shoot. Except that Herman Cain is the most refreshing, geniune, can-do, America-loving and solution-oriented candidate we've seen in a long, long time.

Guest 10-06-2011 10:44 PM

I intend to vote for Herman Cain. I live in Atlanta with land in Buttonwood. Herman had a conservative talk radio show here before he declared his candidacy for president. I find it exceedingly refreshing that he acts and sounds the same now as he did before he declared. He is consistently conservative and consistently genuine. These qualities form a good foundation for being deemed trustworthy.


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