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Guest 09-28-2011 08:37 AM
http://digg.com/news/politics/poll_c...t_ceiling_deal

I am sure that you will ballyhoo this site but it does show results of a CNN poll. Once again, Americans have had a taste of the Tea Party and they do not like the flavor.

Guest 09-28-2011 08:44 AM
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http://digg.com/news/politics/poll_c...t_ceiling_deal

I am sure that you will ballyhoo this site but it does show results of a CNN poll. Once again, Americans have had a taste of the Tea Party and they do not like the flavor.
Except for the blogs author attributing the results of the CNN poll to the Tea Party, I see no evidence of the question even affording that conclusion. It's another poll asking how the public felt about that Congressional budget battle in that moment in time. A bit of a stretch.

Guest 09-28-2011 09:22 AM
Congress's ratings have been low since it was taken over by the democrats in 2006. I suspect that their ratings will go up when Tea Party endorsed candidates take over the Senate and then we can pass some real legislation to get America working again. To be strong and heal we will have to repeal the bills passed in the last 5 years that have weakened our economy.

Guest 09-28-2011 01:11 PM
Dems want Perry and Romney
 
Just like they wanted McCain. They can use the same old arrows they have used time and time again. "Repubs are racist". "Repubs hate the poor." Cain comes from humble beginnings. They can't use racism or class warfare.

Cain can solve problems. Career partisan politicians got us here. We cannot let the Republican talking heads or the dems give us the next candidate.I do not think Obama could beat this guy in a debate. Does he even use a teleprompter?

It would be a mistake to have another John McCain run in 2012.

Guest 09-28-2011 01:45 PM
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The more I read about this man the more I like him. The first thing to like is his utter dislike of taxes. How about that for a change? He's the one candidate who actually has a new and novel idea on how to have a tax system that's fair and simple and pretty easy for anyone to understand.

Herman Cain earned a Bachelors in Mathematics from Morehouse College and a Masters in Computer Science from Purdue. Herman Cain was also a ballistics expert in the Navy, and is a strong proponent of the 2nd Amendment.

Herman Cain is the author of four books on leadership. He’s also a survivor of colon cancer and a fierce opponent of ObamaCare.

Herman Cain is also Christian. He attends and participates in a church near Atlanta, Georgia. Another plus these days he is staunchly anti-radical Islam.

Unlike others, he want to increase spending on the military and maintain America's strong defensive stature. He's a Constitutionalist and a proponent of strong borders coupled with easing the way to legal immigration and citizenship.

I'm not sure where his candidacy will lead, but the more I know about him, the more I like. He's a man to watch, and right now the man of the hour.

http://www.hermancain.com/images/economicgrowth.pdf

http://trevorloudon.com/2011/09/man-...–-herman-cain/

This is his new campaign video promoting his 9-9-9 Tax plan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=-IuiEmXoBhI

Here's an old video of Herman Cain as CEO of Godfather Pizza taking on then Pres. Clinton over his proposed healthcare plan (which eventually failed)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WP5dYfBBzU
You started this thread four pages ago and only one poster has even mentioned Cain's basic economic position, the 9/9/9 plan. A couple of others mentioned that they thought Cain would never get his ideas through Congress. May I ask what you like about the 9/9/9 plan, why you think it is better than a revised federal income tax system and how you could imagine it as specific legislation which could make it through Congress, even if there were a Republican majority in the Senate.

Guest 09-28-2011 03:03 PM
I'm not sure how Mr. Cain can get Congress to debate his proposed tax overhaul. I just like the simplicity of it and the fact that it would render the gargantuan IRS as obsolete. We could dissolve it and institute a small accounting firm that could perform the resulting task.

It removes a lot of the underground economy by instituting a 9% federal consumption tax that law-abiding and lawbreakers alike must pay. It'll add a lot of new federal revenue in just that aspect.

It's a plan that everyone can understand unlike the monstrous and convoluted regulation of our current tax code. Can anything like this actually pass? I don't think so, because it takes a lot of power out of the hands of legislators. I don't have to say anything else.

Guest 09-28-2011 08:07 PM
So, as I said before, Cain's 9-9-9 plan sounds good but it would not be possible to get it through Congress. Lots of good people can come up with good plans but they are not politically feasible. Candidates can say they want to abolish the IRS. That is not going to happen. Look at the huge number of employees that would be given pink slips. Politically, that is a nightmare in every state. Government agencies cannot easily be shut down.

Guest 09-28-2011 08:32 PM
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So, as I said before, Cain's 9-9-9 plan sounds good but it would not be possible to get it through Congress. Lots of good people can come up with good plans but they are not politically feasible. Candidates can say they want to abolish the IRS. That is not going to happen. Look at the huge number of employees that would be given pink slips. Politically, that is a nightmare in every state. Government agencies cannot easily be shut down.
There has to be a way to shut down government agencies whose original purpose is expired. Government is like an obese person stuck in a fast food restaurant at night eating every thing he can find. Government is people on the wagon and the citizens are pulling the wagon. Every time they hire a new government employee, he jumps up on the wagon. Eventually there will be more people on the wagon then there is people pulling the wagon.

It is about time we lighten the wagon-the citizens are tired of pulling all this dead weight!!!

Guest 09-28-2011 08:41 PM
Some posters do not believe that Federal government employees are needed. I don't think he is trying to bait me. I worked for the Dept of Veterans Affairs for 36 years and I helped a great number of veterans personally and the VA helps veterans and their families every day. I resent implications that Federal government employees are worthless slugs. I did know a few but I have seen plenty more in the private sector.

Guest 09-28-2011 08:55 PM
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Some posters do not believe that Federal government employees are needed. I don't think he is trying to bait me. I worked for the Dept of Veterans Affairs for 36 years and I helped a great number of veterans personally and the VA helps veterans and their families every day. I resent implications that Federal government employees are worthless slugs. I did know a few but I have seen plenty more in the private sector.
Your work at the VA is greatly appreciated and it sounds like you were doing vitally important work. But I read Villagegolfer's post to say that the Government has hired too many workers. It didn't mention anything about the work ethic of those workers. Having worked in both government and private sectors, I saw "slugs" in both arenas. No offense, but Government Union workers were by far the worst.

Guest 09-28-2011 10:23 PM
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Some posters do not believe that Federal government employees are needed. I don't think he is trying to bait me. I worked for the Dept of Veterans Affairs for 36 years and I helped a great number of veterans personally and the VA helps veterans and their families every day. I resent implications that Federal government employees are worthless slugs. I did know a few but I have seen plenty more in the private sector.
Sometimes you've got to do it. You've just have to shut down the buggy whip plant.

With a simplified (Fair Tax?) system you can have an IRS that is scaled down probably 90% (I made that up for expediency) and transformed into an accounting firm with techs monitoring computer reports and calculations.

Will it affect IRS workers? Of course, but time heals all wounds and those people will survive or fail on their own initiative; but it's not our place or duty to have to provide lifetime jobs just "because".

Remember our conversation over a cold one when I tried to explain how government employees don't live in the real world of the marketplace for the reason that they can't see how any problem with incoming government revenue is applicable to the job they do. This is a wonderful example of that.

Guest 09-29-2011 08:06 AM
We could debate this forever and the answer will still be the same. We may agree that a Fair Tax is best for everyone. The IRS, though, is not going away. Cain's plans may sound wonderful - but would never get a vote in Congress. Candidates can promise the world but reality kicks in and they never can go anywhere without being watered down in Congress so much nothing looks the same.

Guest 09-29-2011 08:36 AM
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We could debate this forever and the answer will still be the same. We may agree that a Fair Tax is best for everyone. The IRS, though, is not going away. Cain's plans may sound wonderful - but would never get a vote in Congress. Candidates can promise the world but reality kicks in and they never can go anywhere without being watered down in Congress so much nothing looks the same.
I agree with you as I said previously on this tread. The problem with changing the tax code is that the people who have to vote to do it would be, in effect, reducing their own power.

Guest 09-29-2011 04:51 PM
I will tell you why I believe that the 9% National Sales Tax will work. Because the politicians are worried to death that the Baby Boomers are retiring, and the "income" tax is going to miss out on trillions as their income is replaced with pensions etc.

As a "Boomer" I'll gladly pay the 9% just to get the government out of manipulating this country and tax code.

Guest 09-30-2011 08:13 AM
Dennis Miller had a great suggestion on Bill O'Reilly the other night. It was a bumper sticker that read:
CAIN & UNABL E
Gotta love it!!


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