I beg to differ. Basic history and math are under taught.

You could be on to something there. We will not stand for another McCain! Voting for him was just picking the one you wanted the least. We have to have a totally different mindset this time around. Cain is certainly my choice, but I know alot of people who cast their vote for Ron Paul last election. Maybe Paul's time has finally come...

What are you talking about? Why have you deliberately revised or misinterpreted what was stated and asked? Why would you resort to name calling predicated on your misrepresentation of facts? No one was called a "socialist" or "communist" as you purport. The only thing I can think of is that you are devoid or incapable of a legitimate rebuttal. This is what what was said:


Karl Marx advocated "redistribution of wealth and class warfare."

Obama advocates "redistribution of wealth and class warfare."

Socialism advocates "redistribution of wealth and class warfare."

Communism advocates "redistribution of wealth and class warfare."

So tell me, how do the liberals on this board and in this thread feel about "redistribution of wealth and class warfare?"

Does the loyal opposition draw a "bright line" somewhere on the path to the left and short of totalitarian dictatorship? If so, where?


The question qualified those with different opinions as "loyal opposition" regardless of your political ideology. The question also posed an opportunity to describe a "bright line" that could be defined as far enough to the left by the loyal opposition. Your bombastic name calling and contrived revision of the question to suit your angry response is what is uncalled for. It stifles debate that encourages understanding.

Wayne, I have to differ. Some 70% of our children need remedial math to catch up to college entrance standards, 30-40% remedial English, Knowledge of American History is abysmal, computer literacy is marginal at best.

We have not eliminated the policy of 'social' promotion and we continue to waste precious time on various politically correct courses. We dilute the teacher's time by 'mainstreaming' children who cannot do the work required to keep up. Heavy emphasis is put to the slow learners, a little less on the gifted and the 80% of the kids in the middle are largely ignored.

A complete overhaul of our schools is needed starting with the elimination of tenure and academic freedom. These ideas had validity in the Middle Ages when they were first advanced but now serve to protect the incompetent, the lazy and those with their own agendas.

BBQ man you are spot on 30% of Journalist students at Syracuse during the 1980's had to take remedial English. We continue to raise one trophy generation after another. No matter the effort or result everyoine gets a trophy.

But they have better self-esteem. And now they are "occupying".

Right on!!! I read statistics that a high school graduate back in the early 60's is equivalent to a 3rd year college person today, academically.

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