I may be wrong about this. Several of my friends are staunch Democrats and they seem to be distancing themselves from their two candidates. It's kind of hard to explain but I get the feeling that they are squirming about the tenor of the primary battle. Almost like they are embarrassed. One of them said flatly the other day that McCain will be "the next president of the United States." He said it without any qualification about sorrow with that outcome. I'm sure he is not a McCain supporter, but neither is he a supporter of the type of battle that we are witnessing in the Democrat primary. After this clubbing between the two candidates is done and a winner is determined, I imagine it will be tough to support the victor.

Originally Posted by Talk Host

I may be wrong about this.

Yes, I agree - you are wrong about this.

VK

Just seems to be politics as usual. I did have greater expectations of how Barack Obama and his supporters would conduct that campaign. I am a Democrat but have voted for Republicans on occasion like for GW Bush in 2000.

I haven't gotten that from any of my friends, most of whom are Democratic. In fact, there seems to be a really united feeling that "we've got to get the Republicans out of the White House before our country is destroyed" kind of mentality.

I am an independent, and always vote for whom I want and not for any party.

However, I honestly feel the country will vote democratic in the general election, It's more of an "anti-Bush" statement...all because of the Iraq War and the economy. I also believe our economy is cyclical and not totally dependent on our elected officials.

I'm sure many disagree with me and that's okay. That's one of the liberties we have of living in the United States of America!

Just my opinion.

All of my Democrat friends, of which I have none, are becoming more and more polarized about Obama/Hillary, with their increasingly vicious charges and countercharges. Nonetheless, they have been ingrained with a sense that Bush stole the '00 and '04 elections, that he's lied about everything, and that the economy is quickly approaching 30's era depression status, primarily because of Bush's tax cuts for the wealthy. The only thing that is keeping them from becoming physically ill is their awareness that the American medical industry is in shambles and absolutely no one has any insurance. Regardless of who is nominated, be it Obama, Clinton, or even Dennis Kuchinich, Democrats will vote for their party.

Hmmmnnnnn....I wonder if they would say one thing and vote another way.....

BTK

Originally Posted by Muncle

All of my Democrat friends, of which I have none,

That's not true Uncle Muncle. I'm your friend. ;D :-*

Another independent here but have voted Democratic far more often than I have Republican. Truth be told, I don't like any of the choices for President. However, unless Obama or Clinton does something majorly wrong or truly immoral (by my standards -- sex scandals don't count), I will probably go the Democratic way.

The Democrats and independents I've spoken to seem to be more in my camp than anything else -- It's more a vote against the Republican party at this point than against McCain. It certainly wouldn't be a vote for anyone.

The only thing missing from this campaign so far is Bert Parks singing "There s/he goes, Mr./Ms. America..." - That's how much of a beauty contest it has been, with almost nothing of substance presented/debated/discussed. If anything has hurt the Democratic Party, it has been that lack of substance, with both campaigns centered more on race and gender than economy, foreign relations, specific domestic issues, etc..

If that keeps up, and there doesn't seem to be any letting up by either Senator O or R-C, a measurable percentage of Democrats inevitably will say "phooey" and just not vote. And the longer this hammer-and-tong battle continues within the Democratic Party, the more folk get ticked off. Combine that with the Michigan/Florida delegate issue, and the Donkey finds itself kicking itself.

In case I miss it (not likely) when the two stop battling each other and do come upon an issue that affects the needs of We the people....please let me know.

Every time I hear or see the so called race issue, I am amused. Blacks and other non Caucasians are less than 25%. If the Caucasians were to alledge to vote as the blacks are being alledged to vote it would be a non event.

At this point those of us in the "we the people" group just want SOMEBODY to speak to the issues.....how about one issue of significance/substance that can change all our lives....energy independence for example.

BTK