The guy who can hardly wait to get out has lived here for nine years! What was he doing...serving a sentence?

We don't really like Florida
 

(it's hot and sticky in the summer and I am afraid of hurricanes)...but we LOVE TV! We could have moved to alot of places in the south but we chose TV.

On our first visit we crossing the street at LSL and someone in a golf cart was obviously waiting for us so we scooted across (maybe trotted) to get out of his way more quickly when he leaned out of his cart and called to us "There's no running in The Villages!" :thumbup: We have never met so many friendly people. That was NOT an isolated occurance. On every trip down we have met more and more people who go out of there way to be friendly, helpful and kind.

We are constantly asked by our friends up here why we are moving to Florida ("Don't you know how HOT it is there?") and we always respond "We aren't moving to Florida - we're moving to The Villages!" Our house will be done in October and we can't WAIT to be there! It may not be for everyone but it IS for us! But, then, I probably don't need to preach to the choir.:highfive:

I don't like to judge other people. He may have things going on in his life that make the Villages uncomfortable for him. Maybe his wife is sick or has passed away, or he lives in an unfriendly neighborhood. You never know what is going on in other people's lives. My feeling about The Villages, is that it is large enough and has such a huge variety of people, that it has been easy for us to find people we like, that share our values. There are some people here that are not my cup of tea, but I choose not to spend time with them. Yes, there is a "bubble" type mentality here for some people, but you find those people everywhere, not just The Villages. We try to go "off campus" every few weeks or so, just to see and be among people who are not old retirees, which we find refreshing. We like restaurants and cultural activites in Orlando and Tampa. If I spent every minute here I would probably find it a little claustrophobic, so we choose to break up our time a little and get out into the rest of the world. I realize some people spend about every minute in TV and love it; just a difference in people and their needs.

I can't wait to get there, but I've got 2 years left. We're putting our house on the market in Jan, 2011, if it sells before we retire we'll rent a place. I just want to get down there in our little house on the Historical side. Maybe get a part time job with the security guys driving around in the little white trucks, we can't wait, deed restrictions and all, fence or no fence I can't wait!

Russ, I totally support your statement on opinions! Unfortunately, some folks here DO seem to sit around and discuss their political concerns very much. My mother always told me that, at social gatherings, polite people never discuss sex, religion, or politics. Period.

I agree with you bandsdavis. Some people take our belief that TV is the best retirement community as an affront on their choice and feel insulted.

However, the man has lived here 9 years. He chose to make a negative comment very loudly in a group of people. Either he is an attention-seeker, or is experiencing a bit of dementia, or is a GRUMP. Most people would not want to draw attention to themselves in such a negative way.

Good riddance; makes more room for nice people.

Some days at the Doggie Doo Run Run, politics takes precedence over the dogs.
 

There is sometimes a lot of barking about politics at the Doggie Doo Run Run. On these days, you would often find the Democrats under one shelter and the Republicans under another with the various Independents shuttling back and forth from tent to tent like some kind of shuttlecock.

Some of these dog owners were very active in local politics too.

Very well stated!

Don't be so hard on this guy, Frankly I think he is right on the money....
I CAN'T WAIT FOR HIM TO LEAVE EITHER.......
...........chilout

Real World?
 

What is the "real world?" Is it where there is war? Is it where there are gangs? Is it where there is a lot of violence against the citizens, such as rape and robbery? Is it where there are suicide bombers? Somebody please define it.

I think this attitude is why most people in foreign countries tend to hate America. They look at us as not living in what they consider the "real world" and they want to kill us for it. They, like Mr. Grouch, don't mind coming here for what America has to offer, and when they have taken all they can from the American experience, they go home and talk about how horrible America is. I think it's time for Mr. Grouch to go home and hate us from afar.

Off topic...sort of
 

I wanted to comment about your friend of 58 years who dumped you when you came to TV. Same thing happened to me...my friend and I were friends for only 25 years, but it still hurts. Happened to a neighbor and another friend here, too. Seems like a pattern. Makes me wonder if our long-time, so-called "friends" aren't just jealous because we found paradise...and they didn't?? LOL!

The "real world" is that nothing and no one is perfect. Life can be messy and that it doesn't always go as planned. People will have problems that need to be solved. It's that way for everyone.

A friend of mine has said, "man plans and GOD laughs".

IMHO - I feel sorry for this person because he seems unhappy within himself. If that's the case. he will unhappy wherever he goes. Moving out of TV is not going to solve his problems but if I was there, I would be willing to help him pack-up his truck.

Let the miserable commiserate with their own kind if they enjoy that sort of feeling. Some people enjoy being miserable.

I personally can't wait to move to TV asap, to meet people who are friendly, helpful, caring and want to enjoy themselves.

Party hardy. :smiley:

2B

I disagree. It isn't so much how he feels about The Villages, its how he said it. No one said he was a bad person, just a miserable one. There is a way of expressing oneself without showing anger and bitterness. This doesn't sound like that was the case.

No, The Villages isn't for everyone If you are unhappy, you don't need to announce your displeasure to others in such a manner.

I'm personally glad for debate. I'm glad when someone gives a negative opinion. I'm glad when someone disagrees with me. I'm glad someone would rather eat vanilla ice cream. I'm glad there are different religions. I'm glad there are different politics. I love that America represents cultural diversity. All these differences make a real world. How boring would it be if everyone thought the same way, had the same view and there was never any conflict? We'd be bored, never learn how to tolerate differences and never learn new concepts. Now, the sad part is someone being unhappy for 9 years! See you all soon!

I am acquainted with a man like this.
 

He is a Villager who is married to a just retired teacher from Marion County. He has been here about 9 years I would guess and is eager to leave the Villages to go live near family in North Carolina. He is very active-- or was very active-- in the campaign to elect Obama/Biden in 2008 and did frequently voice his support of Obama and his policies.

Not all people really are a very good fit with the Villages. He was very active in the politics of Marion county though while he lived in the Villages so I would find it hard that he would say he missed reality.

In 2010, it seems like Obama and his supporters are getting too much from reality.

....

My only comment to him from the streets of Brooklyn, NY is

"don't let the door hit you in the a**"


I agree with this statement entirely. If someone is that unhappy here, just leave. There are no wire fences around here. I can't stand the people that complain how bad TV is, but they are busy 24/7. Don't know what they are looking for. I guess complaining gets them some attention.

My wife and I make no excuses for wanting to escape the real world. I am old and smart enough to know that the many people's real world consist of what they see in 30 second video clips on the "news", what they believe to be true without a shred of fact to back it up or what the politicians tell us. In the real world I am expected to gracefully accept what I do not want to accept. I did my tour in Vietnam and gave back to society for many years. Today, "keeping it real" usually means accepting rudeness, inappropriate behavior, etc.. I rather keep it fake for the remainder of my life. :) I hope that gentleman sells his house soon and gets his wish. All I know is that since moving to TV my stress level has decreased and my health has improved dramatically. The real world was killing me. :)

What I cannot understand is why the man referred to by the original poster has voluntarily suffered residing in a community in which he has been so unhappy for nine (surely long for him) years. Personally, I would not be so needlessly masochistic. When I graduated from school I took a position in a city in which I was not happy due to the weather although the people were wonderful and the job just fine. I grew up in a sunny, relatively warm climate and this city bordered one of the Great Lakes. It was cold and overcast much of the year and the snowfall reached 144 inches the first winter I was there. I suffered SAD and got pretty depressed. After sticking it out 30 months I relocated to an area I found quite sunny and desirable. I tell people it was the longest 20 years I ever spent in 30 months!

As for living in the real world, I prefer to reside in a clean, green, beautifully landscaped and well maintained, friendly, social, sunny, pleasant, safe (relatively drug and crime free) environment. - Does that sound like TV? - I am now at an age where the thought of living in an active adult community appeals to me which is why am considering a second LSV to TV. I just wish TV was a truly gated community. I have a home in one now and feel safe and secure at all times. It is well patrolled 24 hours a day and if for example a person leaves a garage door up at night he receives a call from security letting him know. I want that lifestyle thank you very much!

I think that one of the reasons that the "real world" in The Villages is so nice is that with age we have learned a lot of things.

Many of us have learned to not harshly judge another person for their differences.

Most of us have learned to not repeat gossip or hurtful things.

Life has taught us that money isn't everything.

Some of us know that what comes around goes around.

We also know that there are fewer years ahead than there are behind and it is a sad shame to waste them.

Most of us here have learned that it is better to give a hug, a compliment, a smile than to keep it all hidden inside where it does no good.

We have learned that the future is now. It is NOW time to dance.

P.S. There are a few s$$theads who haven't learned any of this stuff.

We've been here four years, and were very active in the campaign to elect Obama and Biden. And we've found ourselves to be a good fit in The Villages. There is something for everyone here. There are a number of Democratic clubs and places where Liberals, or those who are broad-minded and are open to new ideas for progress, can get together.

Gracie,you're the best!!

I think I've heard the "real world" comment all my life. You shouldn't move from the inner city to the suburbs because it isn't the real world. You should keep your kids in urban schools and not look to live in a great school district because it isn't the real world. I would like to ask that gentleman to define "real world". Is it where people live, eat, love, enjoy themselves, experience the full range of human emotions such as happiness and suffering and depression? If so, then TV is as real as it gets and I am proud to be part of it. I am even grateful for the "grumpies" because they remind me on a daily basis that it is one's personal attitude that determines your outlook.

Private Sector Accomplishment
 

They say the the United States is right of center politically. The Villages is an example of what could happen when a man of vision, like Gary Morse, can pursue his dream in this great country.
Yes, the villages is subject to the laws of the land, but basically it is a private sector accomplishment. and everybody is welcome no matter what their political or religious beliefs.
In my opinion, this is the real world.

Nonie,
I bet she misses you.
Kitty

I don't know who "they" is, but whethere or not the US is right of center is neither here nor there, and has nothing to do with people finding their "place" in The Villages.

It is those "broad-minded" polls that we see every day. It was you that mentioned a place for democrats and I am just saying it is a place for everybody.

If you can read carefully, you will note that Tal's post seemed to imply that the person was not happy here because he was an active Democrat. My post was to clarify that there are plenty of Democrats here, and they are happy. Your comment about the US being right of center, is your view, not based on fact, and has absolutely nothing to do with the subject of this thread . I know some people are afraid of moving to the Villages because they think they will be surrounded by a bunch of right wing fanatics. Yes, those types of people are here, as evidenced by some of the posters on the blog, but there are plenty of us who think in a more progressive direction. The Villages if for everyone, on that we can agree.

Yes, it is for everyone. And since you enjoy labeling people, the Villages are also tolerant of left-wing extremists as evidenced by a few posters here. You may be in denial, but the USA is definitely right of center but unfortunately it seems to be drifting the other way.

I've said it before, now I'll say it again. Graciegirl, you always know EXACTLY what to say. :mademyday:

The more liberal this country becomes, the happier I become. Here is the definition of Liberal from the dictionary: Liberal - Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry. b. Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded. ... in my opinion, these are all qualities we should aspire to. If that makes me a left wing extremist, I'm proud.

I really think you have carried this discussion too far. You have completely hijacked this thread when you posted your support for Obama-Biden. Your liberalism may suit you just dandy but it will ruin the USA and our great grandchildren will have to pay for the debt it has created. Your support for your candidate should have been posted in the Political Forum.

I really think the moderators should stop this thread.

You don't seem to have grasped my original quote which was regarding the fact that there are Democrats in The Villages and they are happy here. It was not meant to be a political post. Simply stated, that all political parties reside here and are happy in The Villages. There is a place for everyone.

You raised the ante when you mouthed off about this country being right of center, in your opinion. That statement had absolutely nothing to do with the subject of the threads. Then you talked about how unhappy you are that the country is moving in the opposite direction, i.e. liberalism, as though that is a dirty word. If anyone raised this discussion to political, it was you, fella.

If I wanted to have this type of discussion, I'd be in Political, but I'm not, for a reason.

I won't be responding anymore to this nonsense.

UM
 

all I can say is WOW, reminds me of discussion forums I had for my online classes BEFORE I would teach Huck Finn, answering the question should it be banned in public education

I am a wannabe, hopefully soon to be frog, let's just all get along, everyone is different and that is a good thing, these forums have given me a new perspective and hope for living, literally, until I found TOTV by accident in January I was lost due to a medical diagnosis,

everyone here is WONDERFUL as far as I am concerned, keep all in perspective, just remember "Someday is Today",

By using that expression "mouthed off" shows your real intent.. All I said was that the USA is right of center and unfortunately (for the country) that it might be edging left. I never mentioned if I was happy or not happy.
You really should be posting your views in Political, not here. All I did was state a fact form unbiased polls.

Pats2010, on any given day it seems that Glenn Beck or Sarah Palin or Sean Hannity or Mitt Romney is visiting The Villages. You can read the local paper and be entertained by Ann Coulter and Ollie North. Check out the owner's profile:
http://www.nndb.com/people/314/000118957/ You are in heaven. Be happy.

I agree. Taj44 hijacked the thread.

This guy will not be happy anywhere he lives.

LOL I have had the great fortune to have resided in a community that has two newspapers of opposing views for over 50 years. Friendly debate is informing and healthy in my opinion.
I do not live down there yet but my house is on the market. I look forward to living in Mr. Morse's community. I did a lifestyle visit and have lurked here on TOTV for a long time. Very impressive!!!!