Well, if it means nothing to you, why should anyone bother to enter into a conversation with you? Peace comrade.

LOL - yeah, Newt the adulterer is the smartest person when he steps into a room, provided the room is full of Repubes and **********.

Newt.... Newt ..... mmmm ..... isn't he the same guy whose own Conference kicked him out?

No, the name calling bothers me but not to me. So call me want you want. I'm curious about who is collecting from a "socialist" program. I'm going to.

Yep, where were his conservative values?

I'll take it one step further, since I personally haven't collected one red cent from Social Security...If someone takes a payment from you, promising to provide a service at a later date, then that someone renigs on the deal...I think that is THEFT and BREACH of CONTRACT. That kinda thing usually lands someone in JAIL, Brutha!
Looks like you haven't collected yet either, so don't count any chickens until they are hatched...we will either never collect or we will die in harness, since we will have to work until we are ancient history before we are eligible...

and as far as refusing it for fear of being labeled a socialist...it was my money to begin with! Had I been FREE to invest it on my own, things would be far different.

I agree. Worked all my life for it. Wasn't me that mismanaged it.

I didn't call you anything but "comrade", because your defining of Social Security as "socialist" and your arrogance in your question was a turn off.

If you want conversation, do you normally begin with provocation? Reread you earlier post and tell me I'm wrong. (don't worry "I don't care about the source" either)

I should like being called "comrade"? Anyway, a simple question here can get a person flamed so I was preempting that with the "I don't care"

Now what is your definition of a socialist?

It is possible that you and I may never receive it, making this conversation totally moot:shrug:
...I think it was Al Gore who said our money was safe in "a lock box". :oops:

As long as Congress can raid it, we may not see it. But then my home is not worth what it should be either. That's where I've been putting my nut through the years. Bad choice.

Social Security was devised as a mandatory federal insurance program that was to be funded through payroll taxes called the Federal Insurance Contributions Act tax (FICA). The money is then handled by insurance trust funds.

Is "retirement insurance" a socialist program? It originally was supposed to be a fund that would grow with it own "trust" investments. Democrat administrations throughout the years raided these funds and now there is no actual "trust". It's paid out of General Fund monies as all payroll deduction that was to pay for this "insurance" is squandered on a daily basis by our government.

Still, the program is not optional. Money has been taken from me involuntarily for 45 years to provide this "retirement insurance".

So now if I collect on the government's promise I must march stiff legged at Red Square? I don't think so.

:a040:fortunately my treasures are stored elsewhere...:a040:

:bigbow::bigbow:

Are you sure it was raided purely by Democrat administrations? OK, so Social Security isn't in your definition of socialist. Glad to hear that. I can now feel no guilt when I start collecting.

Start collecting?
Let's see, the house didn't pan out...may I venture to say, because of the government?!
Like I said...don't count chickens that haven't hatched yet either.