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Guest 05-25-2015 09:47 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1064460)
This post sort of underscores something I just do not understand.

Despite being dishonest, not trusted folks like this poster are simply giddy over having her elected as President.

Now what does that say.....just for politics, they will demean goodness, and embrace sheer dishonesty simply to win an election for their party. And you wonder why this country is so screwed up.

Oh, I have no doubt that George Soros will get out the vote and the last few years of trying to make it easier, and assuredly less secure to vote, will serve her well.

BUT, is this the way it is supposed to be ? Very alarming to me that people are that shallow, but I suppose it is true.

Good point ...

I've often wondered what it is that makes the Clintons so appealing to so many Democrats when you think they would be fed up and disgusted by their behavior.

Some say "the economy was great" and that's as far as they go ...ie self interest. (we can debate who was responsible for the great economy but not here)

But I think some simply love the way the Clintons have always been able to metaphorically shoot the finger to the Republicans AND get away with it scot free. They delight in it.

My theory ... these people have not done that well in life and are nursing grudges hence revel in this type behavior.. This is what you see when someone posts an idiotic note such as the one you cite where they say "no worries you'll see her presidential papers" This actually evinces a sad and pathetic psychological mindset, or lack of smarts ... or probably both.

Guest 05-25-2015 10:28 AM

I think the formula is not all that mysterious.

It is not so much they are for, in this case, Clinton. It is all about being against the opposition.....NO MATTER THE CONSEQUENCES, lack of character, lack of qualifications, lack of morals party candidate.

It is quite sad in reality to not have the opportunity to do better. And I am not inferring to switch to the opposition. There are many candidates in the democratic party that are much better in every way than just simply going for the ride and annointing Clinton. You can do better.....IN YOUR OWN PARTY! That is the sad part of the situation.

Guest 05-25-2015 12:04 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1065116)
I think the formula is not all that mysterious.

It is not so much they are for, in this case, Clinton. It is all about being against the opposition.....NO MATTER THE CONSEQUENCES, lack of character, lack of qualifications, lack of morals party candidate.

It is quite sad in reality to not have the opportunity to do better. And I am not inferring to switch to the opposition. There are many candidates in the democratic party that are much better in every way than just simply going for the ride and annointing Clinton. You can do better.....IN YOUR OWN PARTY! That is the sad part of the situation.

Mrs. Clinton really has the Republicans running scared, doesn't she? Now, they are trying to say there are many other good Democrats available so we should find them instead of Hillary. We have our good candidate and next President - Hillary Clinton.

Well, the Republicans have such a wide scattering of their own party hopefuls from those gathering 16% of a straw poll vote to less than 1%. No consensus at all in their views, either.

Doesn't look too good for the Republicans at this point in time.

Guest 05-25-2015 12:16 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1065116)
I think the formula is not all that mysterious.

It is not so much they are for, in this case, Clinton. It is all about being against the opposition.....NO MATTER THE CONSEQUENCES, lack of character, lack of qualifications, lack of morals party candidate.

It is quite sad in reality to not have the opportunity to do better. And I am not inferring to switch to the opposition. There are many candidates in the democratic party that are much better in every way than just simply going for the ride and annointing Clinton. You can do better.....IN YOUR OWN PARTY! That is the sad part of the situation.

You know, you make a good point.

Just using the posters on here......they "seem" to be anti police, instead of pro law; they "seem" to be anti white instead of pro equality; they seem to be opposed to strong morals instead of firming them up; they seem to be against financial inequality, except for those who might be democrats.

There are more and certainly this is just from reading on here.

They will post loudly, and with serious accusations here about any police misconduct, but ignore or shrug off any misbehavior by others.

They are quickly on here anytime a black is wronged, but the silence is deafening if a wrong is done to anyone who is Caucasian.

They will come on here and call Gov Huckabee a hypocrite as if he supported the actions of a reality tv person, yet ignore the hypocrisy of so many (rev Sharpton, our President).

They have, in the case of Romney, simply attacked because he is wealthy, yet embrace Ms. Clinton.

And they simply ignore anything bad happening in the world except for the occasional comment about George Bush.

Now, let's be honest, both parties can do the same thing, but in the last few years, it is all about what they are against.

Being against is ok, I suppose, but it just "seems" to me that the message is confusing. It "seems" if someone is killed or unjustly treated, there is this wait period. If the victim is black, they will post long and hard; if the victim is white...I think the expression is "crickets"

I hope I am wrong, but that is how it looks to me. And this is not much about President Obama, although he certainly has not done anything to dispel; he is the President, and with that office comes criticism. It does evoke chuckles however, when one does choose to even post; it is basically either...he won...or....would you do this or that. Never a statement that they support a policy and why, just a note to tell us what they are against.

Maybe it is symptomatic of what has happened in this country. Seems you have to be a democrat or a republican, and just simply being an American and having your opinion doesn't count. It seems to be all about win or else.

Guest 05-25-2015 12:23 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1065170)
Mrs. Clinton really has the Republicans running scared, doesn't she? Now, they are trying to say there are many other good Democrats available so we should find them instead of Hillary. We have our good candidate and next President - Hillary Clinton.

Well, the Republicans have such a wide scattering of their own party hopefuls from those gathering 16% of a straw poll vote to less than 1%. No consensus at all in their views, either.

Doesn't look too good for the Republicans at this point in time.

Perhaps instead of the steady stream of polls, you might go into detail about what exactly are the policy issues on which you support Ms. Clinton.

Now certainly we can eliminate trustworthiness, because as someone who loves polls, you know Americans do not trust her.

It cannot be financial inequality, as she represents almost all you panned Romney for.

Tell us how she stands on ISIS and why you support her. I do not think she agrees with this admin, but you tell us.

Tell us where she stands on job creation, and the new trade initiative.

Where does she stand on Iran, both on a deal and Congress's part.

How does she feel about transparency in government ?

Just a few...should be easy given your early support for her.

Guest 05-25-2015 01:11 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1065170)
Mrs. Clinton really has the Republicans running scared, doesn't she? Now, they are trying to say there are many other good Democrats available so we should find them instead of Hillary. We have our good candidate and next President - Hillary Clinton.

Well, the Republicans have such a wide scattering of their own party hopefuls from those gathering 16% of a straw poll vote to less than 1%. No consensus at all in their views, either.

Doesn't look too good for the Republicans at this point in time.

The post above is an excellent example of how some are nothing more than a one for one amplifier. No thinking.....no basis....just spew!

The post extrapolates what I said....me....one person...who they have no idea of my party affiliation....and use my post to cite....the republicans are running scared. "They" are now touting good democratic candidates? They did nothing of the kind....I...me....said it.

And all the while making no attempt to address the subject. THERE ARE BETTER DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES. We all know that and just keep wondering why some prefer the to have a morally corrupt and taintedby inaction and lying candidate instead.

Now don't forget this is ME not the republicans!

Guest 05-25-2015 01:55 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1065170)
Mrs. Clinton really has the Republicans running scared, doesn't she? Now, they are trying to say there are many other good Democrats available so we should find them instead of Hillary. We have our good candidate and next President - Hillary Clinton.

Well, the Republicans have such a wide scattering of their own party hopefuls from those gathering 16% of a straw poll vote to less than 1%. No consensus at all in their views, either.

Doesn't look too good for the Republicans at this point in time.

I must admit, you are indeed the picture perfect example of a Hillary Clinton supporter… Completely oblivious to any and all information that pertains to her character and honesty ..., congratulations!!

Guest 05-25-2015 02:35 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1065170)
Mrs. Clinton really has the Republicans running scared, doesn't she? Now, they are trying to say there are many other good Democrats available so we should find them instead of Hillary. We have our good candidate and next President - Hillary Clinton.

Well, the Republicans have such a wide scattering of their own party hopefuls from those gathering 16% of a straw poll vote to less than 1%. No consensus at all in their views, either.

Doesn't look too good for the Republicans at this point in time.

Dear Guest: I believe you misread the situation Republicans are not afraid for Republicans, Republicans are afraid for the country.

Personal Best Regards:

Guest 05-25-2015 02:46 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1065240)
Dear Guest: I believe you misread the situation Republicans are not afraid for Republicans, Republicans are afraid for the country.

Personal Best Regards:

And while it will not ever be discussed openly so are a great many democrats.

Guest 05-25-2015 02:59 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1065247)
And while it will not ever be discussed openly so are a great many democrats.

Yes, I agree that many democrats are fearful too. Fighting over politics is one thing ... but watching a country's moral standards and honesty disintegrate is of concern to all (except those who willfully do not want to see I should add)

Guest 05-25-2015 03:42 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1065182)
Perhaps instead of the steady stream of polls, you might go into detail about what exactly are the policy issues on which you support Ms. Clinton.

Now certainly we can eliminate trustworthiness, because as someone who loves polls, you know Americans do not trust her.

It cannot be financial inequality, as she represents almost all you panned Romney for.

Tell us how she stands on ISIS and why you support her. I do not think she agrees with this admin, but you tell us.

Tell us where she stands on job creation, and the new trade initiative.

Where does she stand on Iran, both on a deal and Congress's part.

How does she feel about transparency in government ?

Just a few...should be easy given your early support for her.



Hillary believes that women are intelligent enough to decide what to do with their own bodies.

Hillary believes that women are intelligent enough to decide if they should be on birth control and what kind.

Hillary supports the Affordable Care Act.

Hillary supports all people being able to marry the people they love, regardless of gender, color, religion.

Hillary believes, as does the president, that Iraq should be fighting their own battles and not relying on the US.

Under our constitutional democracy, we have one president at a time. It is unlikely, in my opinion, that there will be a lot of daylight between Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, at least for the forseeable future.

Hillary will be giving a policy speech in South Carolina soon. (Yes you read that correct, South Carolina) It seems that Hillary is going to try to win all 50 states, run the tables, shoot the moon.

Listen to her upcoming speech for the answers to your questions. There is still plenty of time to decide who deserves your vote.

Guest 05-25-2015 04:20 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1065205)
The post above is an excellent example of how some are nothing more than a one for one amplifier. No thinking.....no basis....just spew!

The post extrapolates what I said....me....one person...who they have no idea of my party affiliation....and use my post to cite....the republicans are running scared. "They" are now touting good democratic candidates? They did nothing of the kind....I...me....said it.

And all the while making no attempt to address the subject. THERE ARE BETTER DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES. We all know that and just keep wondering why some prefer the to have a morally corrupt and taintedby inaction and lying candidate instead.

Now don't forget this is ME not the republicans!





No, we don't know THERE ARE BETTER DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES. It appears to be your opinion that there are - but that is YOUR OPINION ONLY. I seriously doubt a democratic primary voter gives a hill of beans what you believe.

If there are better candidates, let them declare their candidacy and let them put together a campaign and run - like Sanders.

The democratic primaries will decide who the Democrats advance as their candidate for President of the Unites States.

What a Republican believes is irrelevant.

All these nasty attacks on Mrs. Clinton - and she still beats ANY Republican candidate - declared or not.

What does that say about the Republican candidates?

Guest 05-25-2015 06:14 PM

The antagonizer(s) were away for the weekend and are obviously back.

Guest 05-25-2015 08:04 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1065337)
The antagonizer(s) were away for the weekend and are obviously back.






In other words, you really have nothing to contribute.

Guest 05-25-2015 10:40 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1065383)
In other words, you really have nothing to contribute.

I guess we are even then.


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