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Guest 01-18-2016 12:24 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1173641)
It doesn't matter who gets elected. Not one person on these forums has said they will have to move from TV because Bush or Obama was President.
Thinking that a democrat or republican president will ruin America is idiotic. All they do is give us something to argue about until our next feeding time.

You are either naive or blind, or possibly just not informed. A liberal in the White House right now, will get the chance to appoint at least three liberal supreme judges, making the whole court unbalanced and biased. They nothing limiting them, no governor so to speak.

If we get another liberal in there at this delicate time in our history, we will be part of Europe in a couple of years.....a failed ideology, a clone state of Europe. America will not fall, it will morph into something ugly....no longer America other than possibly the name.

Doomsday speech? I welcome a different scenario. To me, Free has nothing to do with benefits, but an element of Liberty.

Guest 01-18-2016 12:26 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1173613)
If Trump becomes the next President, God help us all. Please, please we think the whole idea of Trump being the ONLY solution for America! Other nations are already balking at the idea of Trump as our leader. Ugh!

That is one of the best reasons for me to change my vote to vote FOR him. That is an excellent reason to vote for him, in itself.

Guest 01-18-2016 12:59 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1173641)
It doesn't matter who gets elected. Not one person on these forums has said they will have to move from TV because Bush or Obama was President.
Thinking that a democrat or republican president will ruin America is idiotic. All they do is give us something to argue about until our next feeding time.

Who said that they will ruin America? The parties are so far apart that nothing will get down. Listen to what Rand Paul terms as "empty politics".Rand Paul Celebrates Hostage Release, Decries Partisanship

Did he hit the nail right on the head when he said we must appose everything Obama says or does as a matter of politics even though we may agree with him on some things.

Guest 01-18-2016 01:56 PM

I honestly cannot understand how otherwise intelligent, rational people can support a Trump candidacy. He is a totally empty suit, a self promoter, and canny marketer who has built a following based on marketing slogans that have no substance, but seemingly resonate with a large portion of people's basest instincts. Please tell me how he will build a wall across the southern border AND MAKE MEXICO PAY FOR IT? Just as small example of taking a crazy simplistic idea, that appeals to zealots, and doubling down on it, sending into the twilight zone. Would you really feel good about the prospect of a president trump conducting foreign diplomacy? There are so many things wrong with this man as a human, much less as the prospective leader of the free world, that I cannot take this phenomenon seriously.

Personal Best Regards:

Guest 01-18-2016 02:09 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1173755)
I honestly cannot understand how otherwise intelligent, rational people can support a Trump candidacy. He is a totally empty suit, a self promoter, and canny marketer who has built a following based on marketing slogans that have no substance, but seemingly resonate with a large portion of people's basest instincts. Please tell me how he will build a wall across the southern border AND MAKE MEXICO PAY FOR IT? Just as small example of taking a crazy simplistic idea, that appeals to zealots, and doubling down on it, sending into the twilight zone. Would you really feel good about the prospect of a president trump conducting foreign diplomacy? There are so many things wrong with this man as a human, much less as the prospective leader of the free world, that I cannot take this phenomenon seriously.

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Actually, after last night's debate YES. Yes, I would prefer Trump over any of the idiots that I witnessed last night on the democrat-socialist debate. After listening to them squabble over who is the most socialist and who is going to give the most free stuff, Trump suddenly looks smarter than he did the day before.

Guest 01-18-2016 02:32 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1173765)
Actually, after last night's debate YES. Yes, I would prefer Trump over any of the idiots that I witnessed last night on the democrat-socialist debate. After listening to them squabble over who is the most socialist and who is going to give the most free stuff, Trump suddenly looks smarter than he did the day before.

Sorry, I should have made myself clearer - I was referring to "intelligent, rational people".

Guest 01-18-2016 02:42 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1173780)
Sorry, I should have made myself clearer - I was referring to "intelligent, rational people".

Since when did that make a difference?? :pepper2:

Guest 01-18-2016 08:28 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1173755)
I honestly cannot understand how otherwise intelligent, rational people can support a Trump candidacy. He is a totally empty suit, a self promoter, and canny marketer who has built a following based on marketing slogans that have no substance, but seemingly resonate with a large portion of people's basest instincts. Please tell me how he will build a wall across the southern border AND MAKE MEXICO PAY FOR IT? Just as small example of taking a crazy simplistic idea, that appeals to zealots, and doubling down on it, sending into the twilight zone. Would you really feel good about the prospect of a president trump conducting foreign diplomacy? There are so many things wrong with this man as a human, much less as the prospective leader of the free world, that I cannot take this phenomenon seriously.

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You are ahead of yourself with the wall. How is going to sell the wall to the Senate? The Democrats know that immigration reform will never go past the wall. There will be no second step. Therefore, not approving the wall will be their leverage for a broader immigration bill. The problem that you have with Trump is you are educated.

I think he plans upon placing high tariffs on US companies manufacturing their products in Mexico entering back into the US. Also, he mentioned sales tax on US companies that ship their goods directly from Mexico to foreign countries. So, he wants to make it more expensive to produce there rather than in the US. The threat of losing manufacturing jobs will be a greater loss to Mexico than paying for a wall. He is also talking about doing something like that to China. What the hell you think he would do, if these counties nationalized US companies manufacturing plants in their countries, if he pulls the stunts he is talking about?

Guest 01-19-2016 06:46 AM

Let's see.......a lawyer or a successful businessman.

Which one would I chose to fix our debt crisis? A lawyer wants to argue law, find cracks in laws, change the laws to protect the guilty.

A successful businessman that finances his own campaign and is not in debt/owe anyone or any foreign country (as is the case with Hilary). A businessman that knows about commerce and assets.

Hillary is promising free stuff that will enslave America in debt. No means of paying for the free stuff.
Trump is promising to free America FROM slavery and make us respected in the world again, as well as powerful and financially stable.

IMO, not a very difficult choice. But, on the other hand liberals only think of themselves and the present, not America's future. Liberals are very selfish.

Guest 01-19-2016 07:40 AM

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Your choice, but take this into consideration:

Guest 01-19-2016 10:19 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1173755)
I honestly cannot understand how otherwise intelligent, rational people can support a Trump candidacy. He is a totally empty suit, a self promoter, and canny marketer who has built a following based on marketing slogans that have no substance, but seemingly resonate with a large portion of people's basest instincts. Please tell me how he will build a wall across the southern border AND MAKE MEXICO PAY FOR IT? Just as small example of taking a crazy simplistic idea, that appeals to zealots, and doubling down on it, sending into the twilight zone. Would you really feel good about the prospect of a president trump conducting foreign diplomacy? There are so many things wrong with this man as a human, much less as the prospective leader of the free world, that I cannot take this phenomenon seriously.

Personal Best Regards:

You can easily replace the name Trump with Obama and the message would fit.....and he fooled enough minions to win!!!!

Guest 01-19-2016 10:22 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1174126)
Your choice, but take this into consideration:

picture from 20 years ago or very professionally photoshopped........looks nothing like the current "matron-looking" persona.

Guest 01-19-2016 11:46 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1174269)
picture from 20 years ago or very professionally photoshopped........looks nothing like the current "matron-looking" persona.

And that is what you took away from that ??????

Guest 01-19-2016 01:54 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1174110)
Let's see.......a lawyer or a successful businessman.

Which one would I chose to fix our debt crisis? A lawyer wants to argue law, find cracks in laws, change the laws to protect the guilty.

A successful businessman that finances his own campaign and is not in debt/owe anyone or any foreign country (as is the case with Hilary). A businessman that knows about commerce and assets.

Hillary is promising free stuff that will enslave America in debt. No means of paying for the free stuff.
Trump is promising to free America FROM slavery and make us respected in the world again, as well as powerful and financially stable.

IMO, not a very difficult choice. But, on the other hand liberals only think of themselves and the present, not America's future. Liberals are very selfish.

This businessman will probably have to deal with 400+ lawyers, that are in Congress. He is use to getting his own way. It won't be that way dealing with Congress. His name might sell in the business world, but it won't mean a damn in DC.

He is out there making promises that he can't meet. He is just saying what people want to hear. He is nothing but noise. His childish faces , and arm waving will be look at as what they are a clown's act.

Why don't you backup this "free stuff" comment with actual facts. What has been given away in the last 7+ years other than items that were directly related to the great recession? Free stuff are just so many empty words.

Guest 01-19-2016 02:12 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1174442)
This businessman will probably have to deal with 400+ lawyers, that are in Congress. He is use to getting his own way. It won't be that way dealing with Congress. His name might sell in the business world, but it won't mean a damn in DC.

He is out there making promises that he can't meet. He is just saying what people want to hear. He is nothing but noise. His childish faces , and arm waving will be look at as what they are a clown's act.

Why don't you backup this "free stuff" comment with actual facts. What has been given away in the last 7+ years other than items that were directly related to the great recession? Free stuff are just so many empty words.

Your entitled to your opinion. You have nothing to back up your theory though, so that makes it nothing much more than a wish.

"Free stuff?" "Promises of free stuff" is what I believe the quote should be if you are asking. Like all the other liberals/socialist candidates, free stuff would include their Free Health Care, free college, free contraception, gov subsidized abortion, etc., etc. That is the liberal bribe, like Obama's "free stash."

Guest 01-19-2016 03:13 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1173755)
I honestly cannot understand how otherwise intelligent, rational people can support a Trump candidacy. He is a totally empty suit, a self promoter, and canny marketer who has built a following based on marketing slogans that have no substance, but seemingly resonate with a large portion of people's basest instincts. Please tell me how he will build a wall across the southern border AND MAKE MEXICO PAY FOR IT? Just as small example of taking a crazy simplistic idea, that appeals to zealots, and doubling down on it, sending into the twilight zone. Would you really feel good about the prospect of a president trump conducting foreign diplomacy? There are so many things wrong with this man as a human, much less as the prospective leader of the free world, that I cannot take this phenomenon seriously.

Personal Best Regards:

Dear Guests: In an interest not to confuse readers, nor to take credit or blame for this post readers should know this post was not written by me.

I understand that imitation is a form of flattery and I understand I have no copyrights, but since TOTV sees fit to identify all posters as "guests", I wish the poster would refrain from using my "Personal Best Regards closing and find his/her own personal signature. It is after all the ethical and right thing to do.

Personal Best Regards:

Guest 01-19-2016 03:39 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1174479)
Dear Guests: In an interest not to confuse readers, nor to take credit or blame for this post readers should know this post was not written by me.

I understand that imitation is a form of flattery and I understand I have no copyrights, but since TOTV sees fit to identify all posters as "guests", I wish the poster would refrain from using my "Personal Best Regards closing and find his/her own personal signature. It is after all the ethical and right thing to do.

Personal Best Regards:

I knew immediately that it wasn't authored by you. His understanding of English was suspect at the onset. It was obvious that he hadn't taken full advantage of his FREE public education. But, a troll is a troll. :Screen_of_Death:

Guest 01-19-2016 05:02 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1174442)
This businessman will probably have to deal with 400+ lawyers, that are in Congress. He is use to getting his own way. It won't be that way dealing with Congress. His name might sell in the business world, but it won't mean a damn in DC.

He is out there making promises that he can't meet. He is just saying what people want to hear. He is nothing but noise. His childish faces , and arm waving will be look at as what they are a clown's act.

Why don't you backup this "free stuff" comment with actual facts. What has been given away in the last 7+ years other than items that were directly related to the great recession? Free stuff are just so many empty words.

Why is it the verbiage used to disparage is always descriptive of Obama?
That does not make sense except for one way street blindness!

Guest 01-19-2016 06:12 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1174479)
Dear Guests: In an interest not to confuse readers, nor to take credit or blame for this post readers should know this post was not written by me.

I understand that imitation is a form of flattery and I understand I have no copyrights, but since TOTV sees fit to identify all posters as "guests", I wish the poster would refrain from using my "Personal Best Regards closing and find his/her own personal signature. It is after all the ethical and right thing to do.

Personal Best Regards:

Dear guests: in an intersect not to confuse readers, nor to take credit, or blame, for this post, readers should know this post was not written by me.

Personal Best Regards:

Guest 01-19-2016 06:17 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1174564)
Dear guests: in an intersect not to confuse readers, nor to take credit, or blame, for this post, readers should know this post was not written by me.

Personal Best Regards:

The fake is pretty obvious. You are the fake, and an immature one at that.

Guest 01-19-2016 07:35 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1174568)
The fake is pretty obvious. You are the fake, and an immature one at that.

So, Personal Best Regards, is an identifier, a signiture? I thought it was a relatively common expression such as, yours truly, or sincerely. I was not aware it was the proprietary sign-off of one particular individual who apparently believes, as seemingly do others on this board, that it adds the weight of authenticity or even gravitas to the individuals comments. I apologize to everyone for presuming to usurp such an iconic and powerful phrase.

Best Individual Regards:

Guest 01-19-2016 10:59 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1174612)
So, Personal Best Regards, is an identifier, a signiture? I thought it was a relatively common expression such as, yours truly, or sincerely. I was not aware it was the proprietary sign-off of one particular individual who apparently believes, as seemingly do others on this board, that it adds the weight of authenticity or even gravitas to the individuals comments. I apologize to everyone for presuming to usurp such an iconic and powerful phrase.

Best Individual Regards:

How very Clinton-esque of you.

Guest 01-20-2016 05:50 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1174612)
So, Personal Best Regards, is an identifier, a signiture? I thought it was a relatively common expression such as, yours truly, or sincerely. I was not aware it was the proprietary sign-off of one particular individual who apparently believes, as seemingly do others on this board, that it adds the weight of authenticity or even gravitas to the individuals comments. I apologize to everyone for presuming to usurp such an iconic and powerful phrase.

Best Individual Regards:

If you are that childish and stupid, you are on the wrong website. Go play on the Barbie site, where you will be welcome......or would you?

Guest 01-20-2016 07:04 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1174612)
So, Personal Best Regards, is an identifier, a signiture? I thought it was a relatively common expression such as, yours truly, or sincerely. I was not aware it was the proprietary sign-off of one particular individual who apparently believes, as seemingly do others on this board, that it adds the weight of authenticity or even gravitas to the individuals comments. I apologize to everyone for presuming to usurp such an iconic and powerful phrase.

Best Individual Regards:

Wait! I am a Reactionary Yapster :cus: who tries to get long posts which mean zilch as long as they sound pious but still care nothing about the morals of Palin's family.

All My Regards:

Guest 01-20-2016 07:17 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1174764)
Wait! I am a Reactionary Yapster :cus: who tries to get long posts which mean zilch as long as they sound pious but still care nothing about the morals of Palin's family.

All My Regards:

Who cares? Palin is not running for office. Get over it. Get a life.

Guest 01-20-2016 07:44 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1174479)
Dear Guests: In an interest not to confuse readers, nor to take credit or blame for this post readers should know this post was not written by me.

I understand that imitation is a form of flattery and I understand I have no copyrights, but since TOTV sees fit to identify all posters as "guests", I wish the poster would refrain from using my "Personal Best Regards closing and find his/her own personal signature. It is after all the ethical and right thing to do.

Personal Best Regards:

Boy, what an ego trip. Get over yourself. You're right, you have no copyright on the phrase, and why you think everyone is dying to know that you are the actual poster of certain posts, is beyond me. You must think you're really hot stuff. If you only knew.

Best Personal Regards:

Guest 01-20-2016 07:45 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1174764)
Wait! I am a Reactionary Yapster :cus: who tries to get long posts which mean zilch as long as they sound pious but still care nothing about the morals of Palin's family.

All My Regards:

Nailed it!

Guest 01-20-2016 08:10 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1174787)
Nailed it!

Thank you. Thank you very much. Elvis has left the building!

Guest 01-20-2016 08:30 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1174743)
If you are that childish and stupid, you are on the wrong website. Go play on the Barbie site, where you will be welcome......or would you?

I almost forgot how much fun and easy this is! Thanks for the entertainment.

Guest 01-20-2016 09:13 AM

very much the spoiled, obnoxious behaving child who needs to be the center of attention.........

Guest 01-20-2016 09:32 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1174786)
Boy, what an ego trip. Get over yourself. You're right, you have no copyright on the phrase, and why you think everyone is dying to know that you are the actual poster of certain posts, is beyond me. You must think you're really hot stuff. If you only knew.

Best Personal Regards:

Your are the one with an ego problem, child. Otherwise, you would contribute instead of mimic adults. like the child your are.

Guest 01-20-2016 09:37 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1174857)
Your are the one with an ego problem, child. Otherwise, you would contribute instead of mimic adults. like the child your are.

Let your caretaker change your Depends and you won't be so cranky. :cus:

Guest 01-20-2016 10:08 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1174862)
Let your caretaker change your Depends and you won't be so cranky. :cus:

You validated the point of that post. :clap2:

Guest 01-20-2016 11:35 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1174857)
Your are the one with an ego problem, child. Otherwise, you would contribute instead of mimic adults. like the child your are.

I was the real poster. Speaking of children, sticks and stones will break my bones....

Best personal regards:

Guest 01-20-2016 12:40 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1174538)
Why is it the verbiage used to disparage is always descriptive of Obama?
That does not make sense except for one way street blindness!

My comments were directed at Trump not Obama. I don't think that Trump, and Obama are traveling on the same one way street. Do you?

Guest 01-20-2016 01:07 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1174442)
This businessman will probably have to deal with 400+ lawyers, that are in Congress. He is use to getting his own way. It won't be that way dealing with Congress. His name might sell in the business world, but it won't mean a damn in DC.

He is out there making promises that he can't meet. He is just saying what people want to hear. He is nothing but noise. His childish faces , and arm waving will be look at as what they are a clown's act.

Why don't you backup this "free stuff" comment with actual facts. What has been given away in the last 7+ years other than items that were directly related to the great recession? Free stuff are just so many empty words.

In an effort to clarify an earlier post of mine. The above negative attributes highlighted all apply to Obama. So why are the same attributes treated as negative when applying to candidates other than Obama? We know the answer....it is more of a rhetorical question.

Guest 01-20-2016 04:20 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1174972)
In an effort to clarify an earlier post of mine. The above negative attributes highlighted all apply to Obama. So why are the same attributes treated as negative when applying to candidates other than Obama? We know the answer....it is more of a rhetorical question.

:thumbup:

Guest 01-20-2016 05:02 PM

I have NOT seen President Obama making goofy faces while others are talking nor have I seen President Obama waving his arms around mocking a disabled person.

We HAVE all seen Donald Trump doing those things.

We HAVE all heard Trump demeaning Mexicans and Muslims.

Trump IS NOT Presidential material.

Guest 01-20-2016 07:51 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1175072)
I have NOT seen President Obama making goofy faces while others are talking nor have I seen President Obama waving his arms around mocking a disabled person.

We HAVE all seen Donald Trump doing those things.

We HAVE all heard Trump demeaning Mexicans and Muslims.

Trump IS NOT Presidential material.

Like it or not Obama Obama has set the bar so low.

It is obvious you have an Obama self induced blind spot. Which is certainly understandable!

Guest 01-20-2016 07:54 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1174972)
In an effort to clarify an earlier post of mine. The above negative attributes highlighted all apply to Obama. So why are the same attributes treated as negative when applying to candidates other than Obama? We know the answer....it is more of a rhetorical question.

Okay, we are on the same track. Obama is use to getting his own way. I agree with you there. Obama thinks he is the smartest man in the room, and he can do the job of everyone in the room better than they are doing their job.

He is making promises he can't keep. Obama promised "hope and change". Trump is promising to build a wall on the Mexican border, and Mexico will pay for it. That is night and day. I don't think that Obama made any promises of kicking the daylights out of our opponents in the Iraq, and Afgan wars. Trump is going to wipe ISIS off the face of the earth. Obama didn't make promises to get out of the great recession by placing tariffs, and sales tax on foreign countries that our corporate moved their production too.

I don't think anyone in England called Obama a fool before he was elected. They didn't have a discussion on the floor to keep Obama out of the country.

I don't ever remember seeing Obama making any faces or waving his arms all the time, when he speaks.

Other than their self confidence in their own brain power, the two are not alike.


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