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Guest 07-13-2016 07:24 PM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1253858)
If it was me, I would conscript anyone that has been unemployed for a year or more and put them into the military.

Even if the military didn't want them?

You ought to tell Trump you are an available VP candidate. You two would make a good team.

Guest 07-14-2016 02:18 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1253869)
Even if the military didn't want them?

You ought to tell Trump you are an available VP candidate. You two would make a good team.

Thank you, but I don't have time and I don't have the patience to deal with inept politicians.

Even if the military didn't want them? You seem to forget that it used to be a policy, all the way through Vietnam, for judges to offer convicted criminals a choice of going to jail or joining the military. It even happened during the Vietnam Conflict. Hey, the Army will take anyone. If not, then congress can start a new military branch called the LTW, Loosers To Winners.

Guest 07-14-2016 05:21 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1253866)
I think you have done a fair job capturing the mess we are in. How do we have some honest and intelligent discussion about it?

I'm not sure we could to that here. It just goes too much against the grain. And I don't know where else to go. But I would like to have that discussion.

Guest 07-14-2016 08:19 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1253838)
That's it??
You are OK with the corruption, the lying, the killing of Americans, the fact that the FBI said she is;
negligent
Reckless
Careless
Unsophisticated on security
She lies

She has committed felons and lied to congress and the American people.
She is being held above the law.

And on and on about why she is such a shrew and haggard nasty person.

BUT....it is OK with you because she is the democratic candidate.

What a :censored: cop out!
Party first BS!

Party first? You betcha. Just heard what the wingnuts put in their platform. Makes it easy to vote for Hillary. You go ahead and vote for the guy that is great at everything. How can I lose? If Hillary wins I am happy. If Trump wins he will make America great again.

Guest 07-14-2016 08:57 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1254038)
Party first? You betcha. Just heard what the wingnuts put in their platform. Makes it easy to vote for Hillary. You go ahead and vote for the guy that is great at everything. How can I lose? If Hillary wins I am happy. If Trump wins he will make America great again.

To admit that the person or their character or ineptness or incompetence or a criminal does not matter as long as they are a democrat is truly a staggering admission to being deaf dumb and blind to any reality.

Guest 07-14-2016 10:05 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1254061)
To admit that the person or their character or ineptness or incompetence or a criminal does not matter as long as they are a democrat is truly a staggering admission to being deaf dumb and blind to any reality.

That was pointedly correct in a nutshell. :thumbup:

Guest 07-14-2016 10:14 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1254104)
That was pointedly correct in a nutshell. :thumbup:

That's a dangerous slope. my party, right or wrong

Guest 07-14-2016 11:00 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1253806)
And Trump's friends and cronies who own the big corporations that are making fortunes out of outsourcing the jobs that Trump says he will bring back. What are his friends, the ones making the obscene profits, saying about this? Do they agree to move jobs back to the US or pay a large tariff?

And who has seen Donald Trump's diploma from Wharton or his transcripts, and why isn't this an issue?

I also want to see his degree from trump university!

Guest 07-14-2016 11:03 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1254111)
That's a dangerous slope. my party, right or wrong

Why? It's not necessarily the party that is wrong, but the representatives of that party. Ideology is ideology but members of a party shift their views right or left of the party ideology. The only politicians that stick to a strict ideological track end up never getting the votes needed by the majority. They are considered extremists.

Guest 07-14-2016 11:12 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1254111)
That's a dangerous slope. my party, right or wrong

Lol, a dangerous slope? Did you ever vote for a democrat? Were you voting for a person or the party? I was in a union the majority of my life, I am pro choice, I believe in equal pay for women, I am agnostic, believe in science. Tell me which party I should vote for. I don't like everything that Hillary stands for, but she represents more of what I want than any republican. Don't try and tell me that Trump isn't a liar and a crook. Go ahead and convince yourself that you vote for the best person democrat or republican. I vote the party.

Guest 07-14-2016 11:27 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1254150)
Lol, a dangerous slope? Did you ever vote for a democrat? Were you voting for a person or the party? I was in a union the majority of my life, I am pro choice, I believe in equal pay for women, I am agnostic, believe in science. Tell me which party I should vote for. I don't like everything that Hillary stands for, but she represents more of what I want than any republican. Don't try and tell me that Trump isn't a liar and a crook. Go ahead and convince yourself that you vote for the best person democrat or republican. I vote the party.

The democratic party is the party of slavery. Parties can change. I don't think your core values do.

Guest 07-14-2016 02:43 PM

re: sealed records
 
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Posted by Guest (Post 1253695)
We have had our fill of nice guy Presidents and unqualified community organizers that get elected on looks, personality, race, and in this campaign gender is giving it a shot. You may not like Trump but he certainly has a certified Wharton School of Business College degree, unlike our current President that chooses to seal his college records. Even if I was a Democrat I would have enough curiosity to wonder why he will not let me know his educational accomplishment. Trump is also not a POLITICIAN. On that fact alone on a scale of 1-10 he gets a 10 in my book. Mo one has a crystal ball to tell exactly how Trump would run his Presidency, but it does not take a Rocket Scientist to predict what direction the Country will take if Hillary is President and Bill is First Lady.

You are aware that Obama's records are sealed. I find it interesting that he has a PHD. Your paper is PUBLISHED-Obama's can't be found. Sounds a bit like HILLYS E-MAILS. The LIBERAL CONTROLLED PRESS elected OBAMA and are making a serious attempt to elect Hillary to an ILLEGAL THIRD CLINTON TERM. hilly'S COLLEGE RECORDS ARE ALSO SEALED. The LIBERAL PRESS does not think this is important. They do however think they are better qualified to review Trumps tax records then is the IRS. Obviously they have their top people reviewing his files.
I think BOTH republicans and democrats agree that the tax codes need to be REFORMED. Perhaps, some of you are not aware that our tax code is currently 86,000 pages.
A potential solution to GLOBAL WARMING. A FLAT TAX WOULD SAVE ACRES OF TREES.

Guest 07-15-2016 07:24 AM

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Posted by Guest (Post 1253695)
We have had our fill of nice guy Presidents and unqualified community organizers that get elected on looks, personality, race, and in this campaign gender is giving it a shot. You may not like Trump but he certainly has a certified Wharton School of Business College degree, unlike our current President that chooses to seal his college records. Even if I was a Democrat I would have enough curiosity to wonder why he will not let me know his educational accomplishment. Trump is also not a POLITICIAN. On that fact alone on a scale of 1-10 he gets a 10 in my book. Mo one has a crystal ball to tell exactly how Trump would run his Presidency, but it does not take a Rocket Scientist to predict what direction the Country will take if Hillary is President and Bill is First Lady.

Oh yes he is...a VERY good one. Maybe he's not in public office, but he's a politician.

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Posted by Guest (Post 1253712)
You saw Trump's college records? I don't like lawyers, but if I get arrested I want one that has practiced before. I am voting for Hillary because she is the Democrat nominee. That is my explanation. You wingers can make a case for anybody on your side. Just because you picked the worst of the bunch doesn't matter to me. I like listening how you defend him.

So you're voting for a corrupt crook because the "party" told you to. Great thinker! /s

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Posted by Guest (Post 1253719)
read it and I disagree with it. If you are a baby boomer you cannot return our country to the way it was.

I've said it before but after WW2 we were alone in the world. All of our allies and enemies were bombed out. All their factories were gone. We were in full swing and it was easy to continue to sell all over the world and to set prices.

How can we go back to that?

We had cheap college. My in state tuition was $350 and now the in-state tuition $12,600.

Inflation Calculator Calculate the value of $100 in 1970 - Inflation on 100 dollars - DollarTimes.com

$350 in 1970 is equal to : $2,195.85 in 2016
Annual Inflation: 4.07%
Total Inflation: 527.39%

Mom's stayed home when we were little even when the dad delivered milk or worked in a warehouse.

We can't go back. The rest of the world is willing to work for peanuts and outsourcing is all over. Companies outsource engineering jobs to India. Guess why?

We can have WWIII or we can dump ALL the Ds and Rs and start over.

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Posted by Guest (Post 1253813)
:$: like the democrats don't have no skin in the game. Amazing how POLICTician goes to Washington with Dodge Dart and 30 years later be multi-millionaire. :loco: please think a little and try to comprehend your government is corrupt

Usually, it's came as a millionaire and leave a billionaire. Most of their ill gotten gains are hidden from their "financial statement".

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Posted by Guest (Post 1253866)
I think you have done a fair job capturing the mess we are in. How do we have some honest and intelligent discussion about it?

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Posted by Guest (Post 1253946)
I'm not sure we could to that here. It just goes too much against the grain. And I don't know where else to go. But I would like to have that discussion.

It's unfortunate that honest discussion it thwarted by the crying girls who don't want to hear it. Most women live in denial, about a LOT of things.

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Posted by Guest (Post 1254111)
That's a dangerous slope. my party, right or wrong

A slope that has destroyed a once great nation...we were "greeded to death". STOP being "party loyal" and voting for all the garbage they put in front of you.

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Posted by Guest (Post 1254142)
Why? It's not necessarily the party that is wrong, but the representatives of that party. Ideology is ideology but members of a party shift their views right or left of the party ideology. The only politicians that stick to a strict ideological track end up never getting the votes needed by the majority. They are considered extremists.

No..the party IS wrong, it's there to make the rich and corporations money by stacking "government" in their favor.

They're attacked by the two PARTIES to keep them from upsetting the good deal they've got going fleecing taxpayers.

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Posted by Guest (Post 1254150)
Lol, a dangerous slope? Did you ever vote for a democrat? Were you voting for a person or the party? I was in a union the majority of my life, I am pro choice, I believe in equal pay for women, I am agnostic, believe in science. Tell me which party I should vote for. I don't like everything that Hillary stands for, but she represents more of what I want than any republican. Don't try and tell me that Trump isn't a liar and a crook. Go ahead and convince yourself that you vote for the best person democrat or republican. I vote the party.

The BEST person is from neither party. Voting the party ensures the continued corruption and downfall.

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Posted by Guest (Post 1254231)
You are aware that Obama's records are sealed. I find it interesting that he has a PHD. Your paper is PUBLISHED-Obama's can't be found. Sounds a bit like HILLYS E-MAILS. The LIBERAL CONTROLLED PRESS elected OBAMA and are making a serious attempt to elect Hillary to an ILLEGAL THIRD CLINTON TERM. hilly'S COLLEGE RECORDS ARE ALSO SEALED. The LIBERAL PRESS does not think this is important. They do however think they are better qualified to review Trumps tax records then is the IRS. Obviously they have their top people reviewing his files.
I think BOTH republicans and democrats agree that the tax codes need to be REFORMED. Perhaps, some of you are not aware that our tax code is currently 86,000 pages.
A potential solution to GLOBAL WARMING. A FLAT TAX WOULD SAVE ACRES OF TREES.

Yes, to make it even MORE beneficial to the rich and corporations.


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