"The most radical president in American history" who oversees a "secular, socialist machine."

"The most radical president in American history has now thrown down the gauntlet to the American people. I run a machine. I own Washington and there's nothing you can do about it."

Originally Posted by dklassen

"The most radical president in American history" who oversees a "secular, socialist machine."

"The most radical president in American history has now thrown down the gauntlet to the American people. I run a machine. I own Washington and there's nothing you can do about it."

Looks like the deconstruction of the USA has started.

iWatching Gingrich with Hannity reminded me of the old Beaves and Butthead shows.

Similar to our current congress and WH?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wLT0...ayer_embedded#

The current government in DC can't hold Gingerich's duffel bag. Anyone with a brain that listens to Gingerich can see that he has the good of this country at heart unlike the power crazed loonies in power who give two hoots about our future. I'd love to see him in a debate with Obama. To call him half of the Beavis and Butthead duo is pretty childish. Hannity I won't speak for.

Originally Posted by dklassen

"The most radical president in American history" who oversees a "secular, socialist machine."

"The most radical president in American history has now thrown down the gauntlet to the American people. I run a machine. I own Washington and there's nothing you can do about it."

For a guy who has demonstrated more than his share of human failures, he does remember that if you use 'hot button' words and phrases you will be quoted by the media. (Yep guys, that's the same media whom you love to hate more than than almost any Democrat.)

This is what you think profound?!?
Boy, I'd think by now you would have been able to smell out out a pathetic, vacuous attempt to get attention.

Originally Posted by ijusluvit

For a guy who has demonstrated more than his share of human failures, he does remember that if you use 'hot button' words and phrases you will be quoted by the media. (Yep guys, that's the same media whom you love to hate more than than almost any Democrat.)

This is what you think profound?!?
Boy, I'd think by now you would have been able to smell out out a pathetic, vacuous attempt to get attention.

Oh, like Obama?

Like most politicians, they do like attention. Some get it speaking the truth, others like Obama get it speaking lies.

At least BO's wife tells the truth. She referred to Kenya as his home country.

Then explain to me how Gingrich is better (and I was a fan of his in the 1990s) after his exchange with Hannity regarding the 'new rules' of nuke usage that the administration announced last week. Gingrich said, and Hannity agreed, that the new policy ruled out usage of nukes in response to a biological attack when it was *in writing* that biological attacks WERE a reason for which nukes could be used.

Is it ignorance? Is it deliberate demagoguery? Was there a retraction that I missed? (Like when Glenn Beck apologized for the mixup of what videos were being shown for crowd scenes during demonstrations in D.C.)

Originally Posted by djplong

...Is it ignorance? Is it deliberate demagoguery? Was there a retraction that I missed?...

All of the above. And we've seen altogether too much of it from both sides in recent years. It's about to ramp up again now that an election is only 4-5 months away.

On this I have to agree with Kahuna, vote the incumbent politicians out of office, that is the only way we have of controlling our fate and future. The power of the polls and don't ever forget it.

Originally Posted by waynet

iWatching Gingrich with Hannity reminded me of the old Beaves and Butthead shows.

When you say this about two of the most intelligent people in America how do you think that makes you look.

If they're so smart, how come they deliberately mislead the public on the nuke policy change?

How come they out-and-out *lied* about whether or not biological attack was a reason for a nuclear response?

Did they mention that the "no nukes" policy doesn't apply to cnon-signatories of the Non-Proliferation Treaty (like Iran & North Korea)?

I expect better from Gingrich, to be honest.

Originally Posted by djplong

If they're so smart, how come they deliberately mislead the public on the nuke policy change?

How come they out-and-out *lied* about whether or not biological attack was a reason for a nuclear response?

Did they mention that the "no nukes" policy doesn't apply to cnon-signatories of the Non-Proliferation Treaty (like Iran & North Korea)?

I expect better from Gingrich, to be honest.

If anyone did what you are accusing folks of then they are very very wrong, HOWEVER, you do know that this administration CHANGED the policy in the first few days and that in the beginning biological attacks were NOT considered a reason.

From Secy Gates, I think on April 6...

""If a non-nuclear weapons state is in compliance with the Non-Proliferation Treaty and its obligations, the U.S. pledges not to use or threaten to use nuclear weapons against it," Gates said. If, however, such a state were to use chemical or biological weapons against the U.S. or its allies, "it would face the prospect of a devastating conventional," or non-nuclear, military response"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100406/...russia_nuclear

This from the NY TIMES on April 6..

"For the first time, the United States is explicitly committing not to use nuclear weapons against nonnuclear states that are in compliance with the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, even if they attacked the United States with biological or chemical weapons or launched a crippling cyberattack.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/06/world/06arms.html

The administration then rushed out this weekend to announce a "change" in thier policy , so maybe...just maybe when the folks you accuse made statement the policy was such and maybe it was changed because of the outspoken folks.

I think it was mentioned by all about Iran and North Korea...actually had that not been in it you would have surely heard louder and louder voices

Originally Posted by djplong

If they're so smart, how come they deliberately mislead the public on the nuke policy change?

How come they out-and-out *lied* about whether or not biological attack was a reason for a nuclear response?

Did they mention that the "no nukes" policy doesn't apply to cnon-signatories of the Non-Proliferation Treaty (like Iran & North Korea)?

I expect better from Gingrich, to be honest.

Reading Liberal sources for your info will get you nothing but hate for any other viewpoint. This will make for biased opinions which are useless in any discussion. This approach also results in narrow minded, incorrect conclusions.