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rubicon 04-12-2017 02:11 PM

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You do mention some interesting points. Yes, some students have had terrible experiences which would cause re-living them if certain trigger points were brought up. This is PTSD. Those students should be able to seek safe zones just as rape victims, veterans, or other disabling challenged persons.

Students should be able to disinvite speakers who the majority do not agree with their views. David Duke would not be as welcome at Howard Universitiy as he would be at Liberty Universitiy, would he?

You and I agreed but l I have a different thought as respects your second paragraph.

Clearly you are referencing one's right to chose to listen. Essentially, this nation was founded on the principal of free speech and expression to ensure the minority view was heard. It may be your right not to attend David Duke's presentation but it is quite another to demand that no one hear him speak.

Because I welcome David Duke to speak doesn't mean I agree with him or his ideas. Actually, his kind have expressed their views in this nation for a very long time. Did their words and ideas harmed anyone? Did they resonate with the majority hyping up the population? (rhetorical questions of course)

The majority in this nation reinforce their rejection and disdain for what David Duke preaches just as they do with Black Lives Matter.

The more egregious issue of course is if a government, a university a corporation , town etc can control what message people receive it can only lead to a repressive regime. Its akin to having "thought police"

In my minds eye selective speech ( policing thoughts) falls in line with the dichotomy of repressive and/or radical governments or groups wherein all who do not agree with them are thus their enemies

This is absolute thinking and the only real absolute is death and most of us are fighting to disprove that one too:D

Personal Best Regards:

Don Baldwin 04-12-2017 02:32 PM

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My friend, we disagree. This nation and its schools are failing kids miserably. We can't afford to allow not one child the opportunity to learn, excel, find they place in society, whether s/he is white black yellow brown or red. Our children are this nation's future.

the thought of these sniveling brats attending college now scares the heck out of me. How can they lead ,invent, teach ...without an open mind ?

No when it comes to educating our kids it MATTERS THAT WE ATTEMPT TO LIFT ALL SHIPS.

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NO...THEIR children are this nations future. They ARE the majority. The schools are failing BECAUSE they are the majority. "WHITE" schools don't fail...diversified schools fail.

NO again...TRYING to lift ALL ships is what got us into this mess. SOME ships can't be lifted...minority ships.

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You and I agreed but l I have a different thought as respects your second paragraph.

Clearly you are referencing one's right to chose to listen. Essentially, this nation was founded on the principal of free speech and expression to ensure the minority view was heard. It may be your right not to attend David Duke's presentation but it is quite another to demand that no one hear him speak.

Because I welcome David Duke to speak doesn't mean I agree with him or his ideas. Actually, his kind have expressed their views in this nation for a very long time. Did their words and ideas harmed anyone? Did they resonate with the majority hyping up the population? (rhetorical questions of course)

The majority in this nation reinforce their rejection and disdain for what David Duke preaches just as they do with Black Lives Matter.

The more egregious issue of course is if a government, a university a corporation , town etc can control what message people receive it can only lead to a repressive regime. Its akin to having "thought police"

In my minds eye selective speech ( policing thoughts) falls in line with the dichotomy of repressive and/or radical governments or groups wherein all who do not agree with them are thus their enemies

This is absolute thinking and the only real absolute is death and most of us are fighting to disprove that one too:D

Personal Best Regards:

We already have "thought police"...this is the ONLY place people like me are allowed to speak the truth. Political correctness dominates. If it can offend ANYONE, it can't be said...or thought.

Sandtrap328 04-12-2017 05:26 PM

You have been called out, Don Baldwin. Answer the question put to you regarding your military service, coward.

Answer or quit the forum.

dirtbanker 04-12-2017 06:13 PM

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You have been called out, Don Baldwin. Answer the question put to you regarding your military service, coward.

Answer or quit the forum.

Hey Sandy - who died and left you boss? You just want to converse with like minds, why don't you try something other than this forum? I don't agree with more than just Don on this forum, should they be asked to leave too?

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MDLNB 04-13-2017 05:10 AM

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You have been called out, Don Baldwin. Answer the question put to you regarding your military service, coward.

Answer or quit the forum.

Did YOU serve your country, Sandy? Are you going to brag about YOUR patriotism? Or, when someone says they served in Vietnam, you will disparage them or demean the reason for being there?

"Answer or quit the forum."

Actually, who cares? Everyone has the right to voice their opinion on here, even you.

rubicon 04-13-2017 05:29 AM

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NO...THEIR children are this nations future. They ARE the majority. The schools are failing BECAUSE they are the majority. "WHITE" schools don't fail...diversified schools fail.

NO again...TRYING to lift ALL ships is what got us into this mess. SOME ships can't be lifted...minority ships.



We already have "thought police"...this is the ONLY place people like me are allowed to speak the truth. Political correctness dominates. If it can offend ANYONE, it can't be said...or thought.

Exactly our educational institutes have been indoctrinating our children with this "wrong thought" philosophy. for example a student says I am a conservative and believe....stop wrong thought. Or as a person I find homosexuality ...stop wrong thought.

Educators have no right to indoctrinate our children to their moral way of belief. frankly they have gone beyond the pale with the so called sex education, diversity protocols etc. simply stated their responsibility is to teach our kids reading writing and arithmetic. Its apparent that many parents are opting out of public education for that reason and some resorting to home schooling.

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Taltarzac725 04-13-2017 06:46 AM

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Did YOU serve your country, Sandy? Are you going to brag about YOUR patriotism? Or, when someone says they served in Vietnam, you will disparage them or demean the reason for being there?

"Answer or quit the forum."

Actually, who cares? Everyone has the right to voice their opinion on here, even you.

Let Don Baldwin continue with his racism. It's ugly, stupid and really makes some of us mad to see it but it is part of US history, unfortunately.

dirtbanker 04-13-2017 06:58 AM

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Did YOU serve your country, Sandy? Are you going to brag about YOUR patriotism? Or, when someone says they served in Vietnam, you will disparage them or demean the reason for being there?

"Answer or quit the forum."

Actually, who cares? Everyone has the right to voice their opinion on here, even you.

Actually...Sandy did serve...Vietnam if I remember correctly. (Maybe the wackadoodle has it written down somewhere).

I don't feel that gives him the right to try to kick people off the forum, but I still thank him for his service.

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