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Old 03-03-2015, 03:59 PM
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This is NOT a political post - This is an informational post! Please keep politics to the political site.

It seems as many believe that illegal immigrants to the US contribute nothing and are just takers of our welfare system. Read the attached link from CNN Money from 2014. 5 immigration myths debunked - Nov. 20, 2014

This excerpt from Politifact gives some more information, "Another theme we've seen: that illegal immigrants are freeloaders taking advantage of federal welfare programs.

Those types of charges are often repeated in anonymous chain e-mails, on blogs and Facebook.

"More than 43 percent of all food stamps are given to illegals," said a typical claim, this one from a Facebook post promoting "10 Illegal Alien Facts."

When PolitiFact researched the numbers, though, we found the claim ridiculously false and rated it Pants on Fire. About 46.4 million people receive food stamps, so 43 percent of that number would be just under 20 million. That significantly exceeds estimates for how many illegal immigrants are in the country. The Pew Hispanic Center put the number at 11.2 million in 2010.

On top of that, most social welfare programs bar illegal immigrants from receiving benefits and require proof of immigration status. That includes food stamps, as well as cash welfare assistance, Medicaid, and even the new health care law.

It's true that some children of illegal immigrants qualify for benefits if they were born in the United States and are citizens. (Critics derisively call them "anchor babies.") But there aren't nearly enough of those types of children -- an estimated 4 million -- to account for 43 percent of food stamp recipients.

Another claim is that illegal immigrants dominate public housing run by the U.S. Housing and Urban Development Department, or HUD. "Nearly 60 percent of all occupants of HUD properties in the U.S. are illegals," the Facebook post said.

That statement too earned a Pants on Fire, because it would require half of all illegal immigrants in the country to live in that housing. And again, HUD requires proof of legal status.

Frank Sharry, executive director of the pro-immigration group America's Voice, said that these kinds of anonymous attacks aren't typical of the public's views of illegal immigrants, but they are out there.

"Polling shows that attitudes toward immigration are improving. But the people who don’t like it are really nasty," he said. "The haters have gotten more intense."


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You will see that they do pay into our Social Security and most will never collect from it. You will see that illegal immigrants do not qualify for food stamps - unless they have an American born child. You will see they do not take jobs from American workers.

Do some Googling research and you will find that the illegal immigrants are not a drain on our welfare system.
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Old 03-03-2015, 04:07 PM
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Thank you for sharing this very interesting information.
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Old 03-03-2015, 04:24 PM
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Yes, thank you for helping to debunk these myths. But some people won't see the truth even when it's smack dab in front of their face. I wonder how long it will take for the haters to get on this thread and voice their propaganda.
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Old 03-03-2015, 04:26 PM
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Is it not enough to just be opposed to _illegal_ immigration because...well...it's illegal?
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Old 03-03-2015, 04:48 PM
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"More than 43 percent of all food stamps are given to illegals," said a typical claim, this one from a Facebook post promoting "10 Illegal Alien Facts."

When PolitiFact researched the numbers, though, we found the claim ridiculously false and rated it Pants on Fire. About 46.4 million people receive food stamps, so 43 percent of that number would be just under 20 million. That significantly exceeds estimates for how many illegal immigrants are in the country. The Pew Hispanic Center put the number at 11.2 million in 2010.
You post says "More than 43 percent of all FOOD STAMPS are given to illegals". Then PolitiFact talks about the number of RECIPIENTS. If one guy gets $100 worth of food stamps and another get $200... wouldn't that mean that 50% of the recipients are receiving 66% of the stamps?
How about this... even 1% is too much.
Oh... wait... this must be some of that "hater propaganda."
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Old 03-03-2015, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Sandtrap328 View Post
This is NOT a political post - This is an informational post! Please keep politics to the political site.

It seems as many believe that illegal immigrants to the US contribute nothing and are just takers of our welfare system. Read the attached link from CNN Money from 2014. 5 immigration myths debunked - Nov. 20, 2014

This excerpt from Politifact gives some more information, "Another theme we've seen: that illegal immigrants are freeloaders taking advantage of federal welfare programs.

Those types of charges are often repeated in anonymous chain e-mails, on blogs and Facebook.

"More than 43 percent of all food stamps are given to illegals," said a typical claim, this one from a Facebook post promoting "10 Illegal Alien Facts."

When PolitiFact researched the numbers, though, we found the claim ridiculously false and rated it Pants on Fire. About 46.4 million people receive food stamps, so 43 percent of that number would be just under 20 million. That significantly exceeds estimates for how many illegal immigrants are in the country. The Pew Hispanic Center put the number at 11.2 million in 2010.

On top of that, most social welfare programs bar illegal immigrants from receiving benefits and require proof of immigration status. That includes food stamps, as well as cash welfare assistance, Medicaid, and even the new health care law.

It's true that some children of illegal immigrants qualify for benefits if they were born in the United States and are citizens. (Critics derisively call them "anchor babies.") But there aren't nearly enough of those types of children -- an estimated 4 million -- to account for 43 percent of food stamp recipients.

Another claim is that illegal immigrants dominate public housing run by the U.S. Housing and Urban Development Department, or HUD. "Nearly 60 percent of all occupants of HUD properties in the U.S. are illegals," the Facebook post said.

That statement too earned a Pants on Fire, because it would require half of all illegal immigrants in the country to live in that housing. And again, HUD requires proof of legal status.

Frank Sharry, executive director of the pro-immigration group America's Voice, said that these kinds of anonymous attacks aren't typical of the public's views of illegal immigrants, but they are out there.

"Polling shows that attitudes toward immigration are improving. But the people who dont like it are really nasty," he said. "The haters have gotten more intense."


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You will see that they do pay into our Social Security and most will never collect from it. You will see that illegal immigrants do not qualify for food stamps - unless they have an American born child. You will see they do not take jobs from American workers.

Do some Googling research and you will find that the illegal immigrants are not a drain on our welfare system.
Typical far-left propaganda that illegals somehow benefit the US. Nice try.


"In 2010, the average unlawful immigrant household received around $24,721 in government benefits and services while paying some $10,334 in taxes. This generated an average annual fiscal deficit (benefits received minus taxes paid) of around $14,387 per household. This cost had to be borne by U.S. taxpayers. Amnesty would provide unlawful households with access to over 80 means-tested welfare programs, Obamacare, Social Security, and Medicare. The fiscal deficit for each household would soar."
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Old 03-03-2015, 05:20 PM
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Too bad that the house of representatives passed the 'clean' bill to fund the department of homeland security today. This was the congress best chance to defund Obama's illegal immigration order. Speaker Boehner lead them over that cliff, and they caved.
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Old 03-03-2015, 05:47 PM
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This is NOT a political post - This is an informational post! Please keep politics to the political site.

It seems as many believe that illegal immigrants to the US contribute nothing and are just takers of our welfare system. Read the attached link from CNN Money from 2014. 5 immigration myths debunked - Nov. 20, 2014

This excerpt from Politifact gives some more information, "Another theme we've seen: that illegal immigrants are freeloaders taking advantage of federal welfare programs.

Those types of charges are often repeated in anonymous chain e-mails, on blogs and Facebook.

"More than 43 percent of all food stamps are given to illegals," said a typical claim, this one from a Facebook post promoting "10 Illegal Alien Facts."

When PolitiFact researched the numbers, though, we found the claim ridiculously false and rated it Pants on Fire. About 46.4 million people receive food stamps, so 43 percent of that number would be just under 20 million. That significantly exceeds estimates for how many illegal immigrants are in the country. The Pew Hispanic Center put the number at 11.2 million in 2010.

On top of that, most social welfare programs bar illegal immigrants from receiving benefits and require proof of immigration status. That includes food stamps, as well as cash welfare assistance, Medicaid, and even the new health care law.

It's true that some children of illegal immigrants qualify for benefits if they were born in the United States and are citizens. (Critics derisively call them "anchor babies.") But there aren't nearly enough of those types of children -- an estimated 4 million -- to account for 43 percent of food stamp recipients.

Another claim is that illegal immigrants dominate public housing run by the U.S. Housing and Urban Development Department, or HUD. "Nearly 60 percent of all occupants of HUD properties in the U.S. are illegals," the Facebook post said.

That statement too earned a Pants on Fire, because it would require half of all illegal immigrants in the country to live in that housing. And again, HUD requires proof of legal status.

Frank Sharry, executive director of the pro-immigration group America's Voice, said that these kinds of anonymous attacks aren't typical of the public's views of illegal immigrants, but they are out there.

"Polling shows that attitudes toward immigration are improving. But the people who dont like it are really nasty," he said. "The haters have gotten more intense."


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You will see that they do pay into our Social Security and most will never collect from it. You will see that illegal immigrants do not qualify for food stamps - unless they have an American born child. You will see they do not take jobs from American workers.

Do some Googling research and you will find that the illegal immigrants are not a drain on our welfare system.
You don't seem to understand that people object to Immigartion that is done illegally

Illegal means against the law

Like its a no-no ... as in don't do that

After some one stands in line and enters the US legally (read that last word again) then we can talk about cost/benefits contribution etc
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Old 03-03-2015, 06:07 PM
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You don't seem to understand that people object to Immigartion that is done illegally

Illegal means against the law

Like its a no-no ... as in don't do that

After some one stands in line and enters the US legally (read that last word again) then we can talk about cost/benefits contribution etc
I LOVE your post!

Sometimes it's necessary to talk to liberals like they're 4-yr-olds! EXCELLENT avoidance of the use of big words that would just soar over their heads anyway.


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Old 03-03-2015, 07:28 PM
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Just a reminder, for those who didn't grasp the concept of the thread, the original post wasn't a political post about whether or not people are here legally, or whether you object to their presence or not. It was to present facts showing that immigrants do contribute to the US in their services, labor and tax contributions, and that propaganda about taking from the welfare system is just that, propaganda. In other words, just setting the record straight. Oops, too many long words. Sorry.
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Old 03-03-2015, 07:33 PM
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Just a reminder, for those who didn't grasp the concept of the thread, the original post wasn't a political post about whether or not people are here legally, or whether you object to their presence or not. It was to present facts showing that immigrants do contribute to the US in their services, labor and tax contributions, and that propaganda about taking from the welfare system is just that, propaganda. In other words, just setting the record straight. Oops, too many long words. Sorry.
Just a reminder... What you posted was a fairy tale fantasy of the far-left... that illegals somehow "help" the average US taxpayer. That is pure political fantasy.

You posting FANTASY as fact is what Obama does, and I have come to expect it from democrats. The TRUTH is illegal immigrants are a HUGE net DRAIN on US taxpayers as posted previously.
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Old 03-03-2015, 07:34 PM
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Just a reminder, for those who didn't grasp the concept of the thread, the original post wasn't a political post about whether or not people are here legally, or whether you object to their presence or not. It was to present facts showing that immigrants do contribute to the US in their services, labor and tax contributions, and that propaganda about taking from the welfare system is just that, propaganda. In other words, just setting the record straight. Oops, too many long words. Sorry.
No, your words are not too long ... just reflective of the confusion with which you approach this "non-political " topic

Also, just so you know, there is no tooth fairy either
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Old 03-03-2015, 07:39 PM
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While we are being distracted to all the positives of illegal immigration (sounds oxymoronish).....how about some of the supporters of ILLEGAL immigration prepare a disertation on why it is OK to allow hundreds of thousands to come across the boarder without so much as a question being asked?

Please include why it is OK that those who enforce the boarder are continually being directed to look the other way?

And last of all enlighten us about how this open boarder keeps those who would kill the likes of any one of us when they get the chance.

Feel free to use as much back up material as the original post above.
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Old 03-03-2015, 07:41 PM
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While we are being distracted to all the positives of illegal immigration (sounds oxymoronish).....how about some of the supporters of ILLEGAL immigration prepare a disertation on why it is OK to allow hundreds of thousands to come across the boarder without so much as a question being asked?

Please include why it is OK that those who enforce the boarder are continually being directed to look the other way?

And last of all enlighten us about how this open boarder keeps those who would kill the likes of any one of us when they get the chance.

Feel free to use as much back up material as the original post above.
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Old 03-03-2015, 07:53 PM
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You don't seem to understand that people object to Immigartion that is done illegally

Illegal means against the law

Like its a no-no ... as in don't do that

After some one stands in line and enters the US legally (read that last word again) then we can talk about cost/benefits contribution etc
Obviously just a hater (with bad spelling).
 

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