Sure makes sense to exile tax payers, while orange-red gets off scott-free!

Originally Posted by Guest

Sure makes sense to exile tax payers, while orange-red gets off scott-free!

How about we get an investigation of all those individuals and corporations that do not pay taxes.....oh never mind it is not illegal....and there are a lot of individuals and corporations that do not and have not paid taxes because the tax laws allow for it.

Just google the following:

"how many individuals and corporations do not pay taxes".

If you have never ever done so be prepared to get a shock when you learn what is common in taxation in America.

Originally Posted by Guest

How about we get an investigation of all those individuals and corporations that do not pay taxes.....oh never mind it is not illegal....and there are a lot of individuals and corporations that do not and have not paid taxes because the tax laws allow for it.

Just google the following:

"how many individuals and corporations do not pay taxes".

If you have never ever done so be prepared to get a shock when you learn what is common in taxation in America.

Or better yet google earned income credit...

Originally Posted by jebartle

Sure makes sense to exile tax payers, while orange-red gets off scott-free!

So illegal immigrants are a net gain to our country, great open the borders!

Another worthless thread without a purpose.

Try to have a point.

Originally Posted by Guest

Sure makes sense to exile tax payers, while orange-red gets off scott-free!

How much did the 12-15 million ILLEGAL immigrants pay?

I probably fall in the middle area on this subject, but am putting this out there so at least this gets discussed.

So often we do not hear this side.

The second link speaks of Dallas, TX and how if the illegal immigrants go, their economy will collapse.

Just for info


"Donald Trump may not have paid federal income taxes for 20 years, but the undocumented immigrants he rails against certainly have, according to the head of a Latino civic engagement organization.

Maria Teresa Kumar, CEO and president of Voto Latino, said on NBC’s Meet the Press that "no one is surprised" by the New York Times report on Trump’s personal finances and pointed out Trump’s "hypocrisy."

"He keeps talking about undocumented immigrants. Undocumented immigrants pay $12 billion of taxes every single year. They pay their taxes. They have skin in the game. He is not contributing to a system that he says he's going to go in and fix," Kumar said."



How much do undocumented immigrants pay in taxes? | PunditFact

Deporting undocumented immigrants would crumble Dallas’ economy | Commentary | Dallas News

Originally Posted by Guest

I probably fall in the middle area on this subject, but am putting this out there so at least this gets discussed.

So often we do not hear this side.

The second link speaks of Dallas, TX and how if the illegal immigrants go, their economy will collapse.

Just for info


"Donald Trump may not have paid federal income taxes for 20 years, but the undocumented immigrants he rails against certainly have, according to the head of a Latino civic engagement organization.

Maria Teresa Kumar, CEO and president of Voto Latino, said on NBC’s Meet the Press that "no one is surprised" by the New York Times report on Trump’s personal finances and pointed out Trump’s "hypocrisy."

"He keeps talking about undocumented immigrants. Undocumented immigrants pay $12 billion of taxes every single year. They pay their taxes. They have skin in the game. He is not contributing to a system that he says he's going to go in and fix," Kumar said."



How much do undocumented immigrants pay in taxes? | PunditFact

Deporting undocumented immigrants would crumble Dallas’ economy | Commentary | Dallas News

From the article: How much do undocumented immigrants pay in taxes? | PunditFact

"Kumar told us she meant Social Security taxes, but that would make her figure less accurate. According to the Social Security Administration, half of the $12 billion in payroll taxes comes from employers. (But she didn’t say it this way.)"

Seems to me that the left-leaning Maria Teresa Kumar distorted the facts...not surprising. So, it appears the number is much closer to $6 billion than $12 billion in Social Security withholding...and not Federal income tax.

How much would we save if we kicked them all out and took the almost half of blacks on welfare and put them to work in the jobs they left behind. Welfare costs a $ trillion a year and minorities make up 80% of it...that's $800 billion. A far cry from your $300 billion they DO pay. The "poor" are ALWAYS a net drag on a country.

Originally Posted by Guest

So illegal immigrants are a net gain to our country, great open the borders!

Another worthless thread without a purpose.

Try to have a point.

Here we go again. The title of the OP is "IMMIGRANTS pay ....."

Suddenly we're interchanging immigrants with illegal immigrants. They are two different things.

And if anyone thinks that President Trump paid zero in taxes you know nothing about our tax system or economics. First of all, we don 't know what the president paid in taxes and it's none of our business. If he paid zero in personal income tax however, you can be sure that he paid millions in other types of taxes. Not only that, but as someone who employs thousands of people, he pays taxes on every one of those people. And he is responsible for those people being employed so he is indirectly responsible for the taxes that they pay.

No one is talking about deporting legal immigrants or stopping legal immigration. What is being discussed is locating all ILLEGAL immigrants and deporting some of them depending on their circumstances.

You're right, this is another worthless pointless thread and I'm sorry I responded to it.

Originally Posted by Guest

Here we go again. The title of the OP is "IMMIGRANTS pay ....."

Suddenly we're interchanging immigrants with illegal immigrants. They are two different things.

And if anyone thinks that President Trump paid zero in taxes you know nothing about our tax system or economics. First of all, we don 't know what the president paid in taxes and it's none of our business. If he paid zero in personal income tax however, you can be sure that he paid millions in other types of taxes. Not only that, but as someone who employs thousands of people, he pays taxes on every one of those people. And he is responsible for those people being employed so he is indirectly responsible for the taxes that they pay.

No one is talking about deporting legal immigrants or stopping legal immigration. What is being discussed is locating all ILLEGAL immigrants and deporting some of them depending on their circumstances.

You're right, this is another worthless pointless thread and I'm sorry I responded to it.

It's the ANCHOR babies...millions per year...almost 30 years...it's been adding up...they're becoming the MAJORITY there are so many.

Joe Biden said whites are at 49%, that means minorities are already the majority. You want to know why we've dropped to #25 in world rankings?...that is why. Below age 7 minorities are the majority starting school, a new baby boom.

The country is lost.

THAT is what you SHOULD be discussing...how to stop it. They dropped ILLEGAL kids here who are being treated as citizens even though they should not be. their parents, illegals, were NOT under the jurisdiction of the US. They need to be deported or the country is lost.

Originally Posted by Guest

How much would we save if we kicked them all out and took the almost half of blacks on welfare and put them to work in the jobs they left behind. Welfare costs a $ trillion a year and minorities make up 80% of it...that's $800 billion. A far cry from your $300 billion they DO pay. The "poor" are ALWAYS a net drag on a country.

you don't get it, NO ONE WANTS THOSE JOBS!!!!!

Originally Posted by Guest

I probably fall in the middle area on this subject, but am putting this out there so at least this gets discussed.

So often we do not hear this side.

The second link speaks of Dallas, TX and how if the illegal immigrants go, their economy will collapse.

Just for info


"Donald Trump may not have paid federal income taxes for 20 years, but the undocumented immigrants he rails against certainly have, according to the head of a Latino civic engagement organization.

Maria Teresa Kumar, CEO and president of Voto Latino, said on NBC’s Meet the Press that "no one is surprised" by the New York Times report on Trump’s personal finances and pointed out Trump’s "hypocrisy."

"He keeps talking about undocumented immigrants. Undocumented immigrants pay $12 billion of taxes every single year. They pay their taxes. They have skin in the game. He is not contributing to a system that he says he's going to go in and fix," Kumar said."



How much do undocumented immigrants pay in taxes? | PunditFact

Deporting undocumented immigrants would crumble Dallas’ economy | Commentary | Dallas News

What is it about progressives that they keep skipping over the term "illegal".

Assad said he had no dog in the fight concerning Trump's travel ban. he also said that Trump was correct and that terrorist would be among those traveling to the US.

Minnesota courts sided against Trump executive order. Minneapolis has a very large Simolia population. many whom have been recruited as terrorists.

Personal Best Regards:

Originally Posted by Guest

What is it about progressives that they keep skipping over the term "illegal".

Assad said he had no dog in the fight concerning Trump's travel ban. he also said that Trump was correct and that terrorist would be among those traveling to the US.

Minnesota courts sided against Trump executive order. Minneapolis has a very large Simolia population. many whom have been recruited as terrorists.

Personal Best Regards:

You are maybe the most shallow, single minded person ever.

This post was not for you another opportunity to preach to your own personal millions of terrible people, progressives.

It was, as I said, an attmpt to add some real numbers to the conversation..fact is a post asked how much...I gave a start...and did not offer an editorial. You, on the other hand are quick on preaching, and your ONE SINGLE OPINION ON EVERYTHING...which goes like this....I am smart. All progressives and minorities are dumb and wrong. Listen to me. Trust me without facts.

If you had read the first link and the comments in the article, you would have found it simply supported COMPREHENSIVE immigration reform.

You truely are uninformed and always anxious to manifest that with you lectures.

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Originally Posted by Guest
How much would we save if we kicked them all out and took the almost half of blacks on welfare and put them to work in the jobs they left behind. Welfare costs a $ trillion a year and minorities make up 80% of it...that's $800 billion. A far cry from your $300 billion they DO pay. The "poor" are ALWAYS a net drag on a country.

Originally Posted by Guest

you don't get it, NO ONE WANTS THOSE JOBS!!!!!

So your solution is to allow illegals to come in to do them?

How about this instead... IF you're on welfare...you don't GET to "choose" whether you'll take a job or not. IF there's a job...you take it. Over 11 million illegals here now...that's 11 million jobs to get people off welfare. Seems like a good start to me.

Originally Posted by Guest

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Originally Posted by Guest
How much would we save if we kicked them all out and took the almost half of blacks on welfare and put them to work in the jobs they left behind. Welfare costs a $ trillion a year and minorities make up 80% of it...that's $800 billion. A far cry from your $300 billion they DO pay. The "poor" are ALWAYS a net drag on a country.



So your solution is to allow illegals to come in to do them?

How about this instead... IF you're on welfare...you don't GET to "choose" whether you'll take a job or not. IF there's a job...you take it. Over 11 million illegals here now...that's 11 million jobs to get people off welfare. Seems like a good start to me.

Seems strange (not) that one of the very few voices of reason is the most accused of racism!!! To the libturds REALISM equals racism...