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rubicon 09-27-2017 03:15 PM

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This country was built on diversity. The Irish were spat upon when they immigrated. The Chinese saw signs in shop windows that said "No dogs or Chinese allowed". The German immigrants...how do you think they were treated in World War I? And we all know Japanese immigrants were rounded up in US concentration camps during World War II. Now all those things are looked upon as mistakes, at best, and disgust from many.
For too long, ignorant preachers have taught their uneducated flocks that this country was built on the Judeo-Christian model. It wasn't. The settlers who built this country were running away from Christian brutality and wars in Europe, where Christians were burning other Christians at the stake, and, yes, beheading them. The founders of this country wanted none of that, so they put a Wall of Separation between church and state into the Constitution. (If you don't believe me, look up the Supreme Court decision of Everson vs. Board.) Our Constitution does not contain the words "God" or "Christianity".
The older white conservatives who cling to the idea that life was just wonderful in the 1950s and want to return, ignore that in the lack of 24/7 media coverage, a lot of what is going on now was also going on then, you just didn't hear about it. Conservative media today wants their people to be afraid of everything-Mexicans, Muslims, liberals, Democrats, immigrants, and they will lie and exaggerate to keep that fear alive. Fox News blasts every black crime, but rarely do they grudgingly admit that a white might have committed an atrocity. Nevertheless if you really dig into facts, most crimes and most terrorist acts in this country have been committed by white males. We shoot 93 other Americans every single day.
The post which started this thread is full of such lies and propaganda, which no doubt was promoted by Limbaugh, Jones, Savage, Fox, or some other outlet which thanks to the freedom guaranteed by our Constitution, can spew nonsense. The pity is that so many willing listeners buy into that crap.

When i joined the U s navy i was sent to Oceania, Virginia Beach Virginia. when I want off base some of the residents there had signs on their lawn that read "No Dogs and Sailors allowed"

the left wants to destroy the names of people like Washington, Jefferson, Lee Franklin because they were slave owners. Blacks still protest in the streets because of slavery.

However since the beginning of time slavery has been a fact. Even in Africa, Africans made slaves of other Africans.

methinks this claim of racism today is a great "gig" to use as leverage to make money, gain political advantage, etc.

Personal Best Regards:

Don Baldwin 09-27-2017 03:20 PM

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In respect for Martin Luther King I will submit a reqesut to change Morse blvd to Martin Luther King Blvd

The day that happens is the day the villages died.

There are thousands of 99% white communities that are little paradises.

There are NO 99% black places that you'd send your daughter alone.

Why? Because we're not the same species. Dogs compared to wolves. One is friendly and joyful...the other violent and unpredictable. Yet the ONLY visible difference is their "skin", their fur coat. Wolves ALL look the same...dogs are more like white people...VERY varied. We have blue eyes, green eyes, hazel and brown...we have blonde hair, red hair, and all shades of brown. Our skin goes from lily white to red to olive and many shades of brown...to almost black.

Blacks are...black. Black skin, curly black hair, brown eyes... Like the wolves...little variation...that's why they "all look alike" to us.

Don Baldwin 09-27-2017 03:28 PM

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When i joined the U s navy i was sent to Oceania, Virginia Beach Virginia. when I want off base some of the residents there had signs on their lawn that read "No Dogs and Sailors allowed"

the left wants to destroy the names of people like Washington, Jefferson, Lee Franklin because they were slave owners. Blacks still protest in the streets because of slavery.

However since the beginning of time slavery has been a fact. Even in Africa, Africans made slaves of other Africans.

methinks this claim of racism today is a great "gig" to use as leverage to make money, gain political advantage, etc.

Personal Best Regards:

Because the sailors have a HISTORY of getting sh!tfaced drunk and willfully or not...wrecking places. They have a lot of pent up male energy that gets relieved. They'd have a sign "no sailors and no minorities" if they could get away with it. Blacks cause damage also.

They protest for special treatment. IF we were all treated by merit alone...black would be completely outcast. Because they're not us...they're not as smart as us.

Africans MADE slaves of others? You mean STILL enslave each other. Slavery still exists in Africa...yet no outcry. Genocide exists in Africa with no outcry. They even made movies about it...nobody cared.

Well duh...it's all part of divide and conquer...keep us against each other so we won't unite against them. They keep us a bunch of squabbling minorities each against the other.

Byte1 09-27-2017 07:15 PM

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When i joined the U s navy i was sent to Oceania, Virginia Beach Virginia. when I want off base some of the residents there had signs on their lawn that read "No Dogs and Sailors allowed"

the left wants to destroy the names of people like Washington, Jefferson, Lee Franklin because they were slave owners. Blacks still protest in the streets because of slavery.

However since the beginning of time slavery has been a fact. Even in Africa, Africans made slaves of other Africans.

methinks this claim of racism today is a great "gig" to use as leverage to make money, gain political advantage, etc.

Personal Best Regards:



"There is a class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs-partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs."

-Booker T. Washington

Don Baldwin 09-27-2017 07:38 PM

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"There is a class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs-partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs."

-Booker T. Washington

These are part of the Negro 1%...and their jobs are guaranteed...blacks will never be our equal and I doubt they'll ever be willingly accepted. Nobody likes them...Whites, Hispanics, Asians...nobody. They all know they're...different.

mellincf 09-27-2017 07:42 PM

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When i joined the U s navy i was sent to Oceania, Virginia Beach Virginia. when I want off base some of the residents there had signs on their lawn that read "No Dogs and Sailors allowed"

the left wants to destroy the names of people like Washington, Jefferson, Lee Franklin because they were slave owners. Blacks still protest in the streets because of slavery.

However since the beginning of time slavery has been a fact. Even in Africa, Africans made slaves of other Africans.

methinks this claim of racism today is a great "gig" to use as leverage to make money, gain political advantage, etc.

Personal Best Regards:

Funny how I, a liberal and avid consumer of liberal press, never heard that. It's not in the liberal press, it is in the right wing press. Let's see you post a comment that references your point ANYWHERE in the Google universe that is liberal, New York Times, CNN, Washington Post, Newsweek, Time Magazine, Huffington Post? You won't find it. It is again, a canard pushed by the right wing and not supported by fact.

Rockyrd 09-27-2017 08:03 PM

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When i joined the U s navy i was sent to Oceania, Virginia Beach Virginia. when I want off base some of the residents there had signs on their lawn that read "No Dogs and Sailors allowed"

the left wants to destroy the names of people like Washington, Jefferson, Lee Franklin because they were slave owners. Blacks still protest in the streets because of slavery.

However since the beginning of time slavery has been a fact. Even in Africa, Africans made slaves of other Africans.

methinks this claim of racism today is a great "gig" to use as leverage to make money, gain political advantage, etc.

Personal Best Regards:

Thinking of racism as a "gig" certainly saves you having to deal with it as a reality.

It IS a reality however, and you can pretend it does not exist, but the hate filled posts on this forum are evidence that, even in The Villages, we are surrounded with folks who feel superior simply because of their skin color..

In 1958, as part of my naval responsibilities I was in Norfolk. Saw the signs referenced, but remember mostly that my black service men could not go pretty much anywhere because of their skin color.

Today, you obviously feel both problems are resolved, but the "gig" as you call it is just more sophisticated.

Such ignorance and superior feelings now have the bully pulpit and you people can rally around your hate, refuse to listen, and dwell on dividing, rather than actually being patriotic and revoking this stuff, embracing the problems and finding solutions.

Nobody likes the NFL players doing what they are doing, but you stupid white folks refuse to understand what it means, how to even begin to understand that black skinned people died for that flag and have the same rights as you, as superior as you might feel.

The "gig" of those "nice folks" marching for and supporting Nazi ideals obviously has your attention.

Rockyrd 09-27-2017 08:08 PM

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Funny how I, a liberal and avid consumer of liberal press, never heard that. It's not in the liberal press, it is in the right wing press. Let's see you post a comment that references your point ANYWHERE in the Google universe that is liberal, New York Times, CNN, Washington Post, Newsweek, Time Magazine, Huffington Post? You won't find it. It is again, a canard pushed by the right wing and not supported by fact.

We now designate any uncomfortable news as fake. This era of our country is extremely sad.

Our President makes things up, and certain "superior" people then repeat it as fact.

Facts are called fake and simply ignored.

Don Baldwin 09-27-2017 08:13 PM

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Funny how I, a liberal and avid consumer of liberal press, never heard that. It's not in the liberal press, it is in the right wing press. Let's see you post a comment that references your point ANYWHERE in the Google universe that is liberal, New York Times, CNN, Washington Post, Newsweek, Time Magazine, Huffington Post? You won't find it. It is again, a canard pushed by the right wing and not supported by fact.

You don't hear that? That's exactly why they're tearing down the statues. Actually...anything that represents whiteness is being attacked. Slaveholders get a double whammy against them.

Here's another FACT that the liberal press doesn't share with you. Jefferson...supposedly fooled around with a BLACK slave? Well they imply she's black. Fully black. The reality was...she was 1/4 black and VERY white looking. She was probably a Halley Berry...very little black appearance in her.

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Thinking of racism as a "gig" certainly saves you having to deal with it as a reality.

It IS a reality however, and you can pretend it does not exist, but the hate filled posts on this forum are evidence that, even in The Villages, we are surrounded with folks who feel superior simply because of their skin color..

In 1958, as part of my naval responsibilities I was in Norfolk. Saw the signs referenced, but remember mostly that my black service men could not go pretty much anywhere because of their skin color.

Today, you obviously feel both problems are resolved, but the "gig" as you call it is just more sophisticated.

Such ignorance and superior feelings now have the bully pulpit and you people can rally around your hate, refuse to listen, and dwell on dividing, rather than actually being patriotic and revoking this stuff, embracing the problems and finding solutions.

Nobody likes the NFL players doing what they are doing, but you stupid white folks refuse to understand what it means, how to even begin to understand that black skinned people died for that flag and have the same rights as you, as superior as you might feel.

The "gig" of those "nice folks" marching for and supporting Nazi ideals obviously has your attention.

Tell me Seaman Rocky...IF you could hand pick your crew from EVERYONE you've ever sailed with...would your "dream crew" be mostly white or mostly black? I'll know right away if you're lying.

MDLNB 09-28-2017 04:31 AM

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Funny how I, a liberal and avid consumer of liberal press, never heard that. It's not in the liberal press, it is in the right wing press. Let's see you post a comment that references your point ANYWHERE in the Google universe that is liberal, New York Times, CNN, Washington Post, Newsweek, Time Magazine, Huffington Post? You won't find it. It is again, a canard pushed by the right wing and not supported by fact.

Just because you are in denial, does not make your statement reality. Get over it and get on with your life. Quit crying like a little girl.

MDLNB 09-28-2017 04:34 AM

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We now designate any uncomfortable news as fake. This era of our country is extremely sad.

Our President makes things up, and certain "superior" people then repeat it as fact.

Facts are called fake and simply ignored.

Rocket, so far most of what the President has said has been vindicated as correct. Sure, the libtard media laughs and jeers at him and accuses him of being a liar, but eventually it all turns out that he is right. You just can't take it. You continue to cry like a scorned teenage girl.

Rockyrd 09-28-2017 06:21 AM

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Rocket, so far most of what the President has said has been vindicated as correct. Sure, the libtard media laughs and jeers at him and accuses him of being a liar, but eventually it all turns out that he is right. You just can't take it. You continue to cry like a scorned teenage girl.

While I KNOW your statement to be untrue, it is worth noting that you ACCEPT A PRESIDENT WHO ONLY MOST OF WHAT HE SAYS IS TRUE.

Of course facts show otherwise, and ongoing and future investigations will show otherwise. Dismissing everything as fake news does not make it less true nor does it mitigate the results of doing that or lying.

Don Baldwin 09-28-2017 06:43 AM

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Rocket, so far most of what the President has said has been vindicated as correct. Sure, the libtard media laughs and jeers at him and accuses him of being a liar, but eventually it all turns out that he is right. You just can't take it. You continue to cry like a scorned teenage girl.

2 year old child...

mellincf 09-28-2017 08:14 AM

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Thinking of racism as a "gig" certainly saves you having to deal with it as a reality.

It IS a reality however, and you can pretend it does not exist, but the hate filled posts on this forum are evidence that, even in The Villages, we are surrounded with folks who feel superior simply because of their skin color..

In 1958, as part of my naval responsibilities I was in Norfolk. Saw the signs referenced, but remember mostly that my black service men could not go pretty much anywhere because of their skin color.

Today, you obviously feel both problems are resolved, but the "gig" as you call it is just more sophisticated.

Such ignorance and superior feelings now have the bully pulpit and you people can rally around your hate, refuse to listen, and dwell on dividing, rather than actually being patriotic and revoking this stuff, embracing the problems and finding solutions.

Nobody likes the NFL players doing what they are doing, but you stupid white folks refuse to understand what it means, how to even begin to understand that black skinned people died for that flag and have the same rights as you, as superior as you might feel.

The "gig" of those "nice folks" marching for and supporting Nazi ideals obviously has your attention.

In fact, this is exactly why liberals are upset about Trump's election. It allows people like the ones we see in this thread to proudly display their racism and ignorance, which are really insecurity and fear. Their "leader" is one of them.

mellincf 09-28-2017 08:17 AM

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Just because you are in denial, does not make your statement reality. Get over it and get on with your life. Quit crying like a little girl.

And yet, you could not reply to my challenge to prove your point. So who is in denial?


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