Posted by Guest

Not really.

Donald Trump had been saying for a year and a half that the best thing that the republicans could do politically was to do nothing and allowed the ACA's death spiral to continue. He also said that, that would not be what's best for the American people.

Now that the democrats have failed to back this compromise plan, they own Obamacare and will take the blame for the pain that is forthcoming. Of course. they will try to blame the republicans for not increasing funding or lowering taxes or whatever such convoluted nonsense that they can come up with.

What we know is that the ACA premium costs are increasing rapidly. Deductibles are rising and insurance companies are leaving the exchanges. Premiums have increased on an average of 26% with Arizona premiums increasing at a whopping 116%. So far, five states have only one insurance company to "choose" from if you get your insurance through the exchanges.

There are going to be a lot of people that cannot afford coverage and cannot get the services that they need. As distasteful as this plan was to many, it would have prevented that.

Also, this was only phase one of repeal and replace. Two more phases were to come that would have made health insurance much more affordable with much better coverage.

If you don't think that this was a compromise, think about this. About half of the most conservative coalition of the republican congress was against it and all of the democrats were against it. Of course the same democrats that had to be dragged kicking and screaming to vote for Obamacare marched lockstep with Pelosi and the party's leadership. So who knows how many would have actually voted for it if not for simple partisanship. This was payback by Pelosi pure and simple.

Also some of the more moderate republicans were against it.

So here you have some of the most liberal members of congress voting against it, some of the most conservative members of congress voting against it and some moderates voting against it. if that doesn't spell compromise, I don't know what does.

Of course I'd never expect Sheila Jackson Lee, Maxine Waters, Nancy Pelosi or Herb Ellison to vote for it. Nor would I expect Michele Bachman, Tom Price or Tim Scott to vote for it. Those are some of the extremist in both parties. They will never compromise.

But I would have thought that some of the more conservative democrats might have crossed over. That is why the bill failed. It's because people on both sides refused to compromise. About 25 republicans refuse to compromise and 193 democrats refused to compromise.

Those on the right because they are vehemently against government control. Those on the left refused because of loyalty to party. They know that in upcoming elections the party will pull their funding. They are under the complete control of Pelosi and Hoyer.

This shows that republicans cannot be controlled by their party's leadership the way that democrats can. Democrats will never go against their leadership the way that republicans will.

Democrats march lockstep. Republicans vote their conscience.

I wouldn't want to be a democratic member of congress when the crap hits the fan.

Posted by Guest

Not really.

Donald Trump had been saying for a year and a half that the best thing that the republicans could do politically was to do nothing and allowed the ACA's death spiral to continue. He also said that, that would not be what's best for the American people.

Now that the democrats have failed to back this compromise plan, they own Obamacare and will take the blame for the pain that is forthcoming. Of course. they will try to blame the republicans for not increasing funding or lowering taxes or whatever such convoluted nonsense that they can come up with.

What we know is that the ACA premium costs are increasing rapidly. Deductibles are rising and insurance companies are leaving the exchanges. Premiums have increased on an average of 26% with Arizona premiums increasing at a whopping 116%. So far, five states have only one insurance company to "choose" from if you get your insurance through the exchanges.

There are going to be a lot of people that cannot afford coverage and cannot get the services that they need. As distasteful as this plan was to many, it would have prevented that.

Also, this was only phase one of repeal and replace. Two more phases were to come that would have made health insurance much more affordable with much better coverage.

If you don't think that this was a compromise, think about this. About half of the most conservative coalition of the republican congress was against it and all of the democrats were against it. Of course the same democrats that had to be dragged kicking and screaming to vote for Obamacare marched lockstep with Pelosi and the party's leadership. So who knows how many would have actually voted for it if not for simple partisanship. This was payback by Pelosi pure and simple.

Also some of the more moderate republicans were against it.

So here you have some of the most liberal members of congress voting against it, some of the most conservative members of congress voting against it and some moderates voting against it. if that doesn't spell compromise, I don't know what does.

Of course I'd never expect Sheila Jackson Lee, Maxine Waters, Nancy Pelosi or Herb Ellison to vote for it. Nor would I expect Michele Bachman, Tom Price or Tim Scott to vote for it. Those are some of the extremist in both parties. They will never compromise.

But I would have thought that some of the more conservative democrats might have crossed over. That is why the bill failed. It's because people on both sides refused to compromise. About 25 republicans refuse to compromise and 193 democrats refused to compromise.

Those on the right because they are vehemently against government control. Those on the left refused because of loyalty to party. They know that in upcoming elections the party will pull their funding. They are under the complete control of Pelosi and Hoyer.

This shows that republicans cannot be controlled by their party's leadership the way that democrats can. Democrats will never go against their leadership the way that republicans will.

Democrats march lockstep. Republicans vote their conscience.

I wouldn't want to be a democratic member of congress when the crap hits the fan.

Posted by Guest (Post 1377298)

Just a small reminder....

Posted by Guest

I was taught in the military that respect is earned, "not an entitlement based on rank"

It was also what my father and his father believed and taught me.
His title is president which he needs to EARN.
So far, he hasn't earned my spit.

Posted by Guest (Post 1377550)

When I was in the Army I was taught that if you were a black fresh out of OCS you could get a job WHITE MEN had to EARN by a process called time in grade.. Also PRESIDENT TRUMP earned the title by smoking your libturd smug as$sed candidate in the Electoral college and more than likely the popular vote if the TRUTH were known... There are always losers like you around...

Posted by Guest

Just a small reminder....

Posted by Guest

When I was in the Army I was taught that if you were a black fresh out of OCS you could get a job WHITE MEN had to EARN by a process called time in grade.. Also PRESIDENT TRUMP earned the title by smoking your libturd smug as$sed candidate in the Electoral college and more than likely the popular vote if the TRUTH were known... There are always losers like you around...

Posted by Guest

Well Irabud seems you like to call people names. You served our country so pieces of crap like chump didn't have to. He doesn't deserve anything, go back and listen to his promises, he SAID he already had A WONDERFUL HEALTH CARE PLAN THAT WAS WAITING TO GO INTO EFECT ON DAY 1! REPEAL AND REPLACE ON DAY 1. NOW HE'S THE LIAR. SO THE THE LINE TRANSFERS FROM OBIE TO CHUMP! LIAR LIAR LIAR!!!!!!!:22yikes::22yikes:

Chump knew more then the generals! In 30 days he was going to defeat ISIS. LIAR LIAR LIAR!!!!

YOU my friend need to drink some CLEAN water and go outside and sniff some fresh air, AMERICAN air, not PUTIN tainted air!

Posted by Guest

Posted by Guest

Well Irabud seems you like to call people names. You served our country so pieces of crap like chump didn't have to. He doesn't deserve anything, go back and listen to his promises, he SAID he already had A WONDERFUL HEALTH CARE PLAN THAT WAS WAITING TO GO INTO EFECT ON DAY 1! REPEAL AND REPLACE ON DAY 1. NOW HE'S THE LIAR. SO THE THE LINE TRANSFERS FROM OBIE TO CHUMP! LIAR LIAR LIAR!!!!!!!:22yikes::22yikes:

Chump knew more then the generals! In 30 days he was going to defeat ISIS. LIAR LIAR LIAR!!!!

YOU my friend need to drink some CLEAN water and go outside and sniff some fresh air, AMERICAN air, not PUTIN tainted air!

Posted by Guest (Post 1377746)

Actually My lovely Bride is flying to Queerlifornia tomorrow for what I hope is the last libturd influenced Awards Banquet,, No spouses..... The ftards don't trust JUST **** THE **** THE **** THE **** OFF

Posted by Guest (Post 1377773)

Once again I've got to run an Lbud post through Google translator.

Sent from my VS995 using Tapatalk

Posted by Guest

from a self defined christian, pathetic.

Posted by Guest

Not really.

Donald Trump had been saying for a year and a half that the best thing that the republicans could do politically was to do nothing and allowed the ACA's death spiral to continue. He also said that, that would not be what's best for the American people.

Now that the democrats have failed to back this compromise plan, they own Obamacare and will take the blame for the pain that is forthcoming. Of course. they will try to blame the republicans for not increasing funding or lowering taxes or whatever such convoluted nonsense that they can come up with.

What we know is that the ACA premium costs are increasing rapidly. Deductibles are rising and insurance companies are leaving the exchanges. Premiums have increased on an average of 26% with Arizona premiums increasing at a whopping 116%. So far, five states have only one insurance company to "choose" from if you get your insurance through the exchanges.

There are going to be a lot of people that cannot afford coverage and cannot get the services that they need. As distasteful as this plan was to many, it would have prevented that.

Also, this was only phase one of repeal and replace. Two more phases were to come that would have made health insurance much more affordable with much better coverage.

If you don't think that this was a compromise, think about this. About half of the most conservative coalition of the republican congress was against it and all of the democrats were against it. Of course the same democrats that had to be dragged kicking and screaming to vote for Obamacare marched lockstep with Pelosi and the party's leadership. So who knows how many would have actually voted for it if not for simple partisanship. This was payback by Pelosi pure and simple.

Also some of the more moderate republicans were against it.

So here you have some of the most liberal members of congress voting against it, some of the most conservative members of congress voting against it and some moderates voting against it. if that doesn't spell compromise, I don't know what does.

Of course I'd never expect Sheila Jackson Lee, Maxine Waters, Nancy Pelosi or Herb Ellison to vote for it. Nor would I expect Michele Bachman, Tom Price or Tim Scott to vote for it. Those are some of the extremist in both parties. They will never compromise.

But I would have thought that some of the more conservative democrats might have crossed over. That is why the bill failed. It's because people on both sides refused to compromise. About 25 republicans refuse to compromise and 193 democrats refused to compromise.

Those on the right because they are vehemently against government control. Those on the left refused because of loyalty to party. They know that in upcoming elections the party will pull their funding. They are under the complete control of Pelosi and Hoyer.

This shows that republicans cannot be controlled by their party's leadership the way that democrats can. Democrats will never go against their leadership the way that republicans will.

Democrats march lockstep. Republicans vote their conscience.

I wouldn't want to be a democratic member of congress when the crap hits the fan.

Posted by Guest

Actually My lovely Bride is flying to Queerlifornia tomorrow for what I hope is the last libturd influenced Awards Banquet,, No spouses..... The ftards really like to promote their immoral agenda..