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autumnspring 12-01-2016 10:08 AM

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So you seem to be saying that Trump is a propagandist, since we know that he initiated all those calls with the president.

We still stand on protocol. I'm not sure if your stated information is even correct BUT, I would doubt the SITTING PRESIDENT would initiate the call. For that matter, the president does not dial his own phone and for that matter
UNLIKE CLINTON CALLS TO AND FROM THE PRESIDENT ARE ON SECURED LINES.

A MIND IS A TERRIBLE THING FOR YOU TO WASTE.

graciegirl 12-01-2016 10:08 AM

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The election is a done deal. Trump got the electoral votes and Hillary conceded. Stein is a fruitcake, worst than Bernie.

worse

autumnspring 12-01-2016 10:33 AM

I agree mostly with your view
 
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From your response, I surmise that we have real differences about effective governing. I look at most of the operation of government as not that much different than running a business. You "hire" a good, effective leader that then hires well qualified, experienced personnel to carry out their directives. The leader him/herself does not have to be all-knowing, they just have to know how to utilize the people they hire effectively and be able to bring people together to work as a team through discussion of ideas, negotiation, and the like. IMO that's why having so many lawyers in Washington has ruined the ability to govern properly....... no leadership skills.

Knowing how things operate and knowing how to work with people are 2 very different things. You can LEARN how things operate; not so much the leadership skills. Some of it can be learned, but much of it is part of one's make-up. Look at Obama - classic example of failed leadership.

1. The leader takes responsibility for all THE GOOD AND THE BAD. Truman had a sign on his desk the BUCK STOPS HERE. Obama said IT IS ALWAYS SOMEONE ELSE'S FAULT.
Too late now but that attitude confirmed my view THAT SOMEONE ELSE SHOULD HAVE BEEN PRESIDENT-THE LEADER.
2. The US has more attorneys per capita then any other country in the world. We also have more lawsuits. We also pay twice what other industrialized countries pay for healthcare and the result-LIFE EXPECTANCY-is about the same. I've read that attorneys add 30% to our medical costs. These numbers are of course easy to tie into a knot BUT...... Like any other BUSINESS who do you think pays for the OVERHEAD? Mal practice insurance is a huge expense-YOU PAY FOR IT.
Obama gave a speech where he said AFFORDABLE HEALTHCARE would not effect ATTORNEYS INCOME, INSURANCE COMPANIES INCOME OR QUALITY OF HEALTHCARE. The COST would be covered by COMPUTER RECORD KEEPING. THE SOCIALIST LIBERALS CHEERED.
The fact is that doctors today ARE ALL ON COMPUTER. EXPECTING, AS STATED BY OBAMA. COMPUTER RECORD KEEPING TO PAY FOR ANYTHING, SINCE IT IS ALREAADY UNIVERSALLY USED IS PURE INSANITY.
EIGHTY PERCENT OF ALL HEALTHCARE IS PAID FOR BY EITHER INSURANCE OR THE GOVERNMENT AND THEY BOTH DEMAND COMPUTER RECORDS.

SOLUTION IS the American people have elected a BUSINESSMAN TO THE WHITE HOUSE. Trump is a SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSMAN WITH A HUGH BUSINESS EMPIRE. This is believe it or not A FIRST. The last previous BUSINESSMAN in the white house was TRUMAN.
TRUMAN ran a far smaller business than TRUMP. Truman had a few clothing stores.

I VOTED FOR TRUMP. FOR THOSE WHO DID AND FOR THOSE WHO DID NOT- MAY IT PROVE TO BE A GREAT CHOICE FOR AMERICA.

MDLNB 12-01-2016 10:34 AM

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worse

Gracias.

autumnspring 12-01-2016 11:04 AM

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So, the "legal system" is messed up...and it's her fault?

You KNOW there is corruption in our voting system, why else would they want to ban ID requirements? Make it electronic with no way to identify vote to voter? That's like banning ID requirements at liquor stores and expecting the kids will obey the law.

Maybe the D party screwed Trump somehow and they want to blow the D party and Hillary wide open?

If corruption influenced the vote count, shouldn't we know about it? No matter the side responsible.

Sadly that view is pretty common.
Sadly, RIGHT AND WRONG are not always LEGAL AND ILLEGAL.

We are told the LAW applies to all equally. THAT VIEW IS SIMPLY NAIVE. We saw OJ get away with murder using a legal team that few could afford AND USING THE RACE CARD. Then, we saw OJ get what will be a life sentence for armed robbery- a crime which if it was not OJ with his previously having gotten away with murder would have likely resulted in no jail time. We saw HILLARY, or we will see HILLARY get away with her private e-mails, we saw the Clintons get away with white water, bengazi, for billy same thing in Ruanda, screwing an underling as well as many more, Bill Cosby is likely going to go to jail for the same thing. IF, YOU HAVE NEVER FACED A COURT TRIAL
YOUR OPPONENT KNOWS YOUR ATTORNEY IS BILLING YOU AROUND $300 AN HOUR. I WON MY CASE. THE LOOSING PARTY HAD NOTHING SO I COLLECTED NOTHING. MY ATTY BILL WAS JUST OVER 20,000.

For SWAMP DRAINING, we soon will not have a LAW PROFESSOR MARRIED TO AN ATTY as president. We have not elected an atty married to a DISBARRED ATTY running for ACCORDING TO ME an ILLEGAL tird term in OFFICE.
A NEW VIEW IN THE WHITE HOUSE. I believe if it aint broke don't fix it BUT, our legal system SHOULD BE REVIEWED. Our constitution guarantys A SPEEDY, FAIR AND JUST TRIAL-are we delivering that?

jimbo2012 12-10-2016 04:18 PM

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Allegiance 12-10-2016 06:33 PM

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Now can the liberals get their shine boxes and leave?

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