Posted by Guest (Post 374630)

the subject of the thread was Obama VS Carter ....not ones opinion of the credibility or not of the media involved. What we used to call a "lateral arabesque" ....a more polite way of stating BS!!!!!

How about an opinion on the subject presented....Obama VS Carter.

In my humble opinion, on the subject of the thread, Obama makes Carter look good!! Carter was a wishy washy, take no risks and offend no one president....and acted that way. And there were times one felt some of what he did was for the good of the country.

Obama is a wishy washy, takes no risks and offend none president...but TALKS as if he isn't/wasn't. And there is nothing we have seen this president do that is for the good of the country.

Subject....CARTER VS OBAMA!!!!

btk

Posted by Guest (Post 374672)

Clandestine missions are carried out every day that the public will never be privy to. If the mission had failed the public might never know. So, there really was no risk. Although it would have been nice if Clinton had given an order when they had him in their sites. Then 9-11 would never have happened.

Posted by Guest (Post 374732)

these decisions and how these missions are carried out than the former Secretary of Defense? Seems logical to me.

Posted by Guest (Post 374734)

I'm telling you that if the mission failed, nobody would have known. I know for a fact that many things happen in the military that stays in the military. Do you really think the mainstream media would dig into their idol's failures?

I'm willing to bet that if it was a failure and it became known, he would blame someone else, like he does with all his failures.

Posted by Guest (Post 374737)

I'm not surprised that you wouldn't give the President any credit for getting Bin Laden. You remind me of another conservative poster who was clearly mad that Obama, and not Bush, was the one who got him.

Posted by Guest (Post 374742)

I'm not mad at anybody. Just telling you the facts. The Navy SEALs are the only ones's who should take credit. Bush didn't get Sadamm. The Army did.

Posted by Guest (Post 374747)

main point. Former Secretary Gates, a Republican appointee and one of the most respected men in Washington- by both sides of the aisle-called Obama's decision to stage the raid the gutsiest decision he's ever seen by any American President. You seem to think that this praise is somehow not valid, reasoning that there was no political risk to Obama since the raids' failure would never have been reported. I say that Gates knows a hell of a lot more than you or me, or anyone else posting here, and this is good enough for me. Your assertion that the media would never have reported on a failed raid is absolute BS.

Posted by Guest (Post 374764)

If you remember, a little less than two years ago
this administration actually charged and attempted to court-martial 3 Navy Seals from Seal Team Six when
a terrorist suspect, whom they captured, complained they had punched him during the take down and bloodied
his nose. This administration further commented how brutal they were. The left were calling them Nazi's and
Baby Killers. Now all of a sudden, the very brave men they vilified are now heroes?
Seems Obama needed a boost in his ratings and his waterboy, Gates, contributed.

Posted by Guest (Post 374764)

If you remember, a little less than two years ago
this administration actually charged and attempted to court-martial 3 Navy Seals from Seal Team Six when
a terrorist suspect, whom they captured, complained they had punched him during the take down and bloodied
his nose. This administration further commented how brutal they were. The left were calling them Nazi's and
Baby Killers. Now all of a sudden, the very brave men they vilified are now heroes?
Seems Obama needed a boost in his ratings and his waterboy, Gates, contributed.

Posted by Guest (Post 374771)

and you know it. Do me and everyone else here a favor, and admit to the fact that you despise the President, and under no circumstances will you give him credit for anything he does. You remind me of the loonies on the left who were calling Bush and Chaney war criminals. Neither you nor them are capable of any rational, objective thinking.

Posted by Guest (Post 374773)

When I show you the hypocrisy of this administration, you refuse to see. I guess love is blind.
Obama is the one who wanted to bring Bin Laden to court one minute and then flip flops and wants to kill him the next, when his ratings get low.
He is against wars and then bombs innocent Libyan citizens.

Posted by Guest (Post 374776)

advocated killing Bin Laden. You conservatives hate the fact that it was Obama, and not Bush, who got the job done. Why can't you admit that you hate the man and will never give him any credit for anything. At least then, we'll all know where you stand and the source of your animus to all things proposed by this President. And don't say it's because he's a socialist, because any thoughtful person knows that that is far from the truth.

Posted by Guest (Post 374776)

advocated killing Bin Laden. You conservatives hate the fact that it was Obama, and not Bush, who got the job done. Why can't you admit that you hate the man and will never give him any credit for anything. At least then, we'll all know where you stand and the source of your animus to all things proposed by this President. And don't say it's because he's a socialist, because any thoughtful person knows that that is far from the truth.