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cologal 06-02-2017 03:56 PM

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Do we include the hundreds of thousands that he created before he was elected? How many did Obama ever create, other than at Solyndra?

in other words

YOU GOT NOTHING!!!

Rockyrd 06-02-2017 04:16 PM

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in other words

YOU GOT NOTHING!!!

If we are speaking of Trump, he has created ZERO jobs..nada/

That is not meant I do not fervently hope he creates a zillion new jobs, but there are very few jobs open now or just created that came from anything he has done or said. Keeping up with his claims is like.,,,,,well...keeping up with his claims.

A real job producing president would tell you that it cannot be done as a quick fix. It just cannot be done. I dont know if anyone else posted this but......from last Friday.....

"During the transition period between Election Day and Inauguration Day, Donald Trump claimed one notable achievement. The Republican, following through on a promise he made on the campaign trail, announced in late November that he’d reached an agreement with Carrier that would keep hundreds of jobs in Indiana.

It sounded great, but even at the time, the boasts came with fine print. Trump exaggerated the number of jobs saved, rewarded a company with taxpayer money that was closing a plant and shipping jobs to Mexico, and fudged the facts about how many of the saved jobs will be eliminated anyway.

The Washington Post reported this week that, six months after the president’s most important economic accomplishment, Trump’s victory is starting to look like a failure.
Carrier, the company President Trump pledged to keep on American soil, informed the state of Indiana this week that it will soon begin cutting 632 workers from an Indianapolis factory. The manufacturing jobs will move to Monterrey, Mexico, where the minimum wage is $3.90 per day.

That was never supposed to happen, according to Trump’s campaign promises. He told Indiana residents at a rally last year there was a “100 percent chance” he would save the jobs at the heating and air-conditioning manufacturer.


Trump's boasts about jobs saved at Carrier start to evaporate | MSNBC

This is not a criticism except of his big mouth but he should take his own advice and work at it.....it takes time, sometimes a long time but again.....he is a real estate developer period.

And I hope he can create jobs, but at least give us some credit for knowing you cannot wave a wand. He has not passed any legislation to make it better to create jobs and he has no political capital to spend.

MDLNB 06-02-2017 06:13 PM

Whatever you say, libtards. You can live in your make believe world of socialist Utopia, but you will just continue to lose. Stats for the last 8 years are availible to prove what I said about Obummer's failure. Lets see you prove anything regarding Trump. Even when you make up your conspiracies and investigate, you can't even come up with a crime that he violated. Have fun playing wack a mole with yourselves, while Trump saves us money and creates jobs. Sorry if he is not interested in creating more poverty and welfare like Obama was so successful doing.

cologal 06-02-2017 07:27 PM

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Whatever you say, libtards. You can live in your make believe world of socialist Utopia, but you will just continue to lose. Stats for the last 8 years are availible to prove what I said about Obummer's failure. Lets see you prove anything regarding Trump. Even when you make up your conspiracies and investigate, you can't even come up with a crime that he violated. Have fun playing wack a mole with yourselves, while Trump saves us money and creates jobs. Sorry if he is not interested in creating more poverty and welfare like Obama was so successful doing.

Name calling is for losers, I come direct from the corporate world, no socialist here.

Did you forget what happened in fall when Obama was elected....

It was the Great Economic Collapse:

The Impact of the September 2008 Economic Collapse

Bush was the President at that time and had been for nearly 8 years.

So what has Trump done so far?

You say he has saved us money.. How? His new Healthcare plan hasn't seen the light of day in the Senate and is in the hands of the Republican Senators.

How many jobs has he created. The jobs report out today was 138,000. Do you have a different number?

autumnspring 06-02-2017 07:32 PM

You should vote with your wallet
 
When, you need a replacement buy TRANE. Your AC only lasts an average of ten years.

Rockyrd 06-02-2017 07:41 PM

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Name calling is for losers, I come direct from the corporate world, no socialist here.

Did you forget what happened in fall when Obama was elected....

It was the Great Economic Collapse:

The Impact of the September 2008 Economic Collapse

Bush was the President at that time and had been for nearly 8 years.

So what has Trump done so far?

You say he has saved us money.. How? His new Healthcare plan hasn't seen the light of day in the Senate and is in the hands of the Republican Senators.

How many jobs has he created. The jobs report out today was 138,000. Do you have a different number?

You are correct on all points.

As you probably know, I am not a Trump guy.

I said on this forum more than once, however that his only chance at success in in the economic realm, i.e. Jobs and the economy.

It is much to early to judge him good or bad, but he has this investigation hanging over the White House (of his own making so he cannot point fingers,..well, he's Trump so he will) and any legislation he needs is just sitting still. I am afraid he isn't going to get anything going until the investigation is over, and that could take months.

Not only that, but his personal actions are not ever going to get support from anywhere but the right, and that is weakened. The reaction from corporate America on the climate accord is stunning, and could cost him some cooperation on that front. I think the mayor of Pittsburgh's reaction should alarm the GOP.

But, to your point, I strongly supported Bush but the economy was really a mess at the end, and admittedly Obama inherited a mess of massive proportions. People do forget that fact, but it is a fact and is under appreciated.

Sandtrap328 06-02-2017 08:29 PM

It is so hilarious. When President Obama was in office and the unemployment rate went down, the Republicans would always say that is because so many job seekers just gave up looking for jobs or took meaningless jobs.

Now, So-Called President Trump is in office. The unemployment rate ticks down and it is because Trump created more jobs and is making America great.

In the words of the Korean War hero, Colonel Sherman T. Potter, "Meadow Muffins!"

Buffalo Jim 06-02-2017 11:58 PM

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No I don't wonder why jobs leave the country, I have worked for venture capitalists. I have watched a company be hollowed outed and then dressed up for a sale. I have watched every year as we waited for the Christmas massacre. In fact I took a package to retire just to save someone on my teams job. You didn't work for a company whose CEO who was listed a one of the worst CEO's in the country! And then watched him get a 17 million dollar package to leave!

Obviously you have no idea on what it is like to work in the modern workforce.

WoW ! Your experience sounds Horrible ! How many years were you forced to work for this evil company ? And on top of it you had to accept the salary , bonuses and benefits they forced onto you .
But finally you were able to escape their clutches and thru your benevolence you were able to save someone`s job !
You should be put up for Saint-hood !!

cologal 06-03-2017 01:06 PM

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WoW ! Your experience sounds Horrible ! How many years were you forced to work for this evil company ? And on top of it you had to accept the salary , bonuses and benefits they forced onto you .
But finally you were able to escape their clutches and thru your benevolence you were able to save someone`s job !
You should be put up for Saint-hood !!

Hey Thanks sounds just about right! Except for 1 thing it was the last 4-5 years that was bad. Once all the Beckman trained managers were gone. And Scott Garrett was the guy in charge at the time.

Here is an article about Scott Garrett.

Beckman Coulter's CEO Resigns - WSJ

Rockyrd 06-03-2017 01:35 PM

You have to admit this is at least smile inducing.

"President Donald Trump on Thursday praised a Republican tax-reform bill that "is moving along in Congress," though Congress is not yet considering a tax plan.


"Our tax bill is moving along in Congress, and I believe it's doing very well. I think a lot of people will be very pleasantly surprised," the president said as he announced his plan to take the United States out of the Paris climate agreement."


http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/01/trump...-congress.html

MDLNB 06-03-2017 02:33 PM

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You have to admit this is at least smile inducing.

"President Donald Trump on Thursday praised a Republican tax-reform bill that "is moving along in Congress," though Congress is not yet considering a tax plan.


"Our tax bill is moving along in Congress, and I believe it's doing very well. I think a lot of people will be very pleasantly surprised," the president said as he announced his plan to take the United States out of the Paris climate agreement."


http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/01/trump...-congress.html

Wow, cnbc is quite the authority! Before posting, try Google. You know, the liberal search engine that even has facts if you dig enough?

Chi-Town 06-03-2017 02:42 PM

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Wow, cnbc is quite the authority! Before posting, try Google. You know, the liberal search engine that even has facts if you dig enough?

Well, there's always the go to source ......Fox Business.[emoji3]

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MDLNB 06-03-2017 02:49 PM

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Name calling is for losers, I come direct from the corporate world, no socialist here.

Did you forget what happened in fall when Obama was elected....

It was the Great Economic Collapse:

The Impact of the September 2008 Economic Collapse

Bush was the President at that time and had been for nearly 8 years.

So what has Trump done so far?

You say he has saved us money.. How? His new Healthcare plan hasn't seen the light of day in the Senate and is in the hands of the Republican Senators.

How many jobs has he created. The jobs report out today was 138,000. Do you have a different number?

Libard is a descriptor, a correctly defined label. If I called someone a Democrat, that would be generalizing, so I accurately segregate the Democrats into smaller defined groups, such as Leftard, Libtard, socialist, commies and when showing my respect, I use the label Democrat. I consider Joe Manchin a Democrat.

But, to the point. Bush was president for 8 years, correct. The last two years he had a democrat majority congress. Right? Until that point, Bush had such a low unemployment rate, that economists said it qualified as total employment. Two years before the liberal takeover of congress.

Now, Obama bragged about creating jobs, but the fact is that Bush had a glass full and Obama started with a glass half full. Bush did not NEED to create jobs, and all the jobs that supposedly gained during Obama was still NEVER enough to create a glass FULL. In other words, there were more folks out of the work force during Obama's whole tenure than anytime during Bush's. Obama left office with a record high poverty rate, record high food stamps, and still more folks not working than during Bush. So, if anyone wants to dispute those general numbers they can look them up on government websites such as CBO, TreasuryDirect, or BOL.

SO, to get back to Trump. Trump has created private sector jobs by his negotiations. Of course, he has experience that Obama never had, so Trump was used to creating jobs. After all, Trump had tens of thousands working for him.

Whether or not you wish to acknowledge the truth is totally up to you. I have backed up my statements regarding stats plenty times in the past and I do not see the point in the effort if you are too lazy to look at past posts.

By the way, the only private sector jobs Obama created were at a now bankrupt solar panel company.. And even those do not out number all the thousands he eliminated when he immediately closed auto dealerships, up his entering office.

Once you libtards get over attacking Trump for imaginary crimes, he will be able to do even more than he is currently getting done.

Rockyrd 06-03-2017 03:15 PM

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Well, there's always the go to source ......Fox Business.[emoji3]

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"Congress has yet to unveil a plan to overhaul the U.S. tax code -- another Trump campaign promise -- even though the president recently tweeted that the plan is ahead of schedule."


Spending bills, debt ceiling complicate Hill Republicans efforts on taxes, ObamaCare | Fox News

wjboyer1 06-03-2017 03:46 PM

What has Trump really done?
 
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Libard is a descriptor, a correctly defined label. If I called someone a Democrat, that would be generalizing, so I accurately segregate the Democrats into smaller defined groups, such as Leftard, Libtard, socialist, commies and when showing my respect, I use the label Democrat. I consider Joe Manchin a Democrat.

But, to the point. Bush was president for 8 years, correct. The last two years he had a democrat majority congress. Right? Until that point, Bush had such a low unemployment rate, that economists said it qualified as total employment. Two years before the liberal takeover of congress.

The economic instability after the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks helped fuel a rise in the unemployment rate. It declined in June 2003 through the summer and fall of 2007 before rising sharply in 2008, peaking at 7.8 percent at the time Bush left office. Congress had nothing to do with the economic collapse, Wall Street was the culprit. US economy was floating on the tech bubble, which happened to pop while Bush was in office. And near the end of Bush's second term, deep structural problems in the economy and global fears fueled the recession.President George W. Bush inherited 4.2 percent unemployment in January 2001. That rate had grown to 7.8 percent when he left office eight years later and hit 8.3 percent in the first full month of Obama's presidency.

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Now, Obama bragged about creating jobs, but the fact is that Bush had a glass full and Obama started with a glass half full. Bush did not NEED to create jobs, and all the jobs that supposedly gained during Obama was still NEVER enough to create a glass FULL. In other words, there were more folks out of the work force during Obama's whole tenure than anytime during Bush's. Obama left office with a record high poverty rate, record high food stamps, and still more folks not working than during Bush. So, if anyone wants to dispute those general numbers they can look them up on government websites such as CBO, TreasuryDirect, or BOL.

When Obama assumed office, the unemployment rate was still rising sharply. It topped out at 10 percent in October 2009, hovering just below that level for the next year, before beginning a steady decline at the end of 2010 that has persisted into early-2016 and breaking through the 5 percent mark at the beginning of 2016.


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SO, to get back to Trump. Trump has created private sector jobs by his negotiations. Of course, he has experience that Obama never had, so Trump was used to creating jobs. After all, Trump had tens of thousands working for him.

Whether or not you wish to acknowledge the truth is totally up to you. I have backed up my statements regarding stats plenty times in the past and I do not see the point in the effort if you are too lazy to look at past posts.

By the way, the only private sector jobs Obama created were at a now bankrupt solar panel company.. And even those do not out number all the thousands he eliminated when he immediately closed auto dealerships, up his entering office.

Once you libtards get over attacking Trump for imaginary crimes, he will be able to do even more than he is currently getting done.

President Trump Likes Taking Credit for Jobs. Here Are the Facts: fortune.com/2017/03/29/president-trump-job-claims-fact-check/

The facts: Trump offered no further details or evidence for his claim that "millions of jobs" were created, and nothing happened during his trip that could come close to backing up such an assertion.

Trump signed a $110 billion arms deal with Saudi Arabia last week. As part of the deal, which still needs approval from Congress, Saudi Arabia "expressed its intent" to spend $28 billion on defense technologies and programs by Lockheed Martin, which estimated the deal would support 18,000 jobs in the U.S. over 30 years — a figure that falls dramatically below Trump's estimate.
"Once fully realized, the programs in this announcement will support more than 18,000 highly skilled jobs in the U.S. and thousands of jobs in Saudi Arabia as part of maintaining and modernizing these platforms over the next 30 years," Lockheed Martin said in a statement on May 20.

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, 533,000 jobs were added to the U.S. economy during the months of January, February and March in 2017. While that number is lower than Trump's estimation, it's also important to note that Trump's term did not begin until noon on Jan. 20, which means he can't accurately claim credit for all 216,000 jobs created in January. In February and March, alone, 317,000 jobs were created — a more accurate measure of Trump's influence.

Toyota said April 10 that it would invest $1.3 billion in its plant in Georgetown, Kentucky. But the move is part of a previously announced plan to invest $10 billion in the U.S. The investment also will not create new jobs, though Toyota highlighted the previously announced addition of 700 jobs at the plant. When asked if the Trump administration's policies affected Toyota's decision, a company spokesperson told the New York Times they had not. "No, but we do share his goal of growing the economy and jobs in the U.S.," company spokesperson Scott Vazin said. The company's update on April 10 came after Trump criticized Toyota and threatened the automaker with a "big border tax" if it followed through on plans to build a plant in Mexico.

Ford said it will invest $1.2 billion in three manufacturing facilities in Michigan — a plan that will create or retain 130 jobs at one of the plants. But as Reuters reported, the project is part of a 2015 negotiation with the United Auto Workers union — not a direct result of Trump's recent meeting with auto executives. Tuesday's announcement introduced new details about the previously planned investment. "These Michigan Assembly Plant and Romeo Engine plant announcements are consistent with what we agreed to and talked about with the UAW in 2015 negotiations," Joe Hinrichs, Ford's president of the Americas, told the Detroit Free Press.

While Charter CEO Tom Rutledge credited the "right regulatory climate and right tax climate" for the investment, the company had already announced its intention to add 20,000 jobs in May 2016. The recent announcement at the White House included more specific details about the commitment. "In connection with our transactions with Time Warner Cable and Bright House Networks last year, we reaffirmed this resolve, stating that we expected to hire 20,000 new employees at Charter, many in customer service," the company said in a statement on March 24. "Today at the White House we announced the next steps in advancing our efforts to grow our in-house and insourced workforce."

General Motors did, in fact, announce the addition or retention of 900 jobs. As the Detroit Free Press noted, many of those jobs might go to 1,000 people who were recently laid off from the company’s Lansing Delta Township plant. GM did not give direct credit to Trump, but in a statement, CEO Mary Barra said the announcement is, in part, a reflection of the company’s confidence in the future of the U.S. economy. “The job commitments announced today demonstrate the confidence we have in our products, our people and an overall positive outlook for the auto industry and the U.S. economy,” she said in a statement.

This 10-year investment by Exxon, which focuses on 11 natural gas projects, began in 2013 and is expected to continue through 2022, the company said. That means it was in the works long before Trump was elected president. Still, in a statement released by the White House, Exxon CEO Darren Woods thanked Trump for his commitment to growing business. “Investments of this scale require a pro-growth approach and a stable regulatory environment and we appreciate the President’s commitment to both,” Woods said.

It’s true that on Jan. 17, General Motors announced it would invest $1 billion in U.S. factories in 2017, creating or retaining 1,500 jobs. But General Motors spokeswoman Joanne Krell told Reuters the investment "had been in the works for some time,” so Trump’s claim that the initiative was entirely dependent on his election is inaccurate.

While Trump took credit for Walmart’s announcement — and thanked the retailer "for starting the big jobs push back into the U.S." — Walmart had already announced in October a plan that would create 10,000 U.S. jobs, Reuters reported.

Trump’s details about Fiat’s investment in Ohio and Michigan plants — announced on Jan. 8 — are correct. But Fiat said the investment was the next phase of a previously announced plan, describing it as a “continuation of the efforts already underway to increase production capacity in the U.S. on trucks and SUVs to match demand.” The company downplayed the President’s influence on the deal. “We don’t make investment decisions based on risk of a tweet,” CEO Sergio Marchionne said, according to Bloomberg, while still thanking Trump. “We owed the country this investment,” he said.

Standing beside Trump in the Oval Office on Feb. 8, Intel CEO Brian Krzanich announced a $7 billion investment to complete the company’s new Arizona factory, which will “employ approximately 3,000 direct high-paying, high-wage, high-tech jobs at its peak, and over 10,000 people in the Arizona area in support of the factory.” Asked at the time how long he had been planning the investment, Krzanich said, “We've been working on this factory for several years. We held off actually doing this investment until now.” He gave credit to the Trump Administration’s tax and regulatory policies. But in 2011, Intel made a $5 billion investment to begin building the same Arizona factory, announcing the plans during a visit from then-President Barack Obama. The company later halted construction due to lack of demand for the product, an Intel spokesman told CNN Money. The spokesman said the more recent investment comes as the company expects demand to increase again.

A spokeswoman for Amgen confirmed to the Los Angeles Times that the company plans to hire 1,600 people across the U.S. in 2017 — some of which will be new positions and some of which will make up for attrition. This comes after the company announced in 2014 that it would cut 2,900 jobs, Bloomberg reported.

Most of these investment initiatives were in the works before Trump was elected. As Factcheck.org has pointed out, there are no Lockheed Martin jobs “coming back” to the United States, but there are new jobs being created as part of a contract for more F-35 planes. As for General Motors and Ford, their plans were set in motion before Trump was elected, and the companies said the decisions were not influenced by politics but by market forces.

Trump's tweet followed Ford’s announcement that it would cancel plans to build a $1.6 billion plant in Mexico, saying it would invest $4.5 billion in building electric cars in the U.S. — which will add 700 new jobs. Ford’s CEO explained the move by pointing to decreasing demand for small cars, which the Mexico plant would have built. He noted that he expects there to be a “more positive U.S. manufacturing business environment under President-elect Trump,” but he said he “absolutely” would have done the same thing if Trump had not been elected. Notably, this is a different Ford plant in Mexico than the two plants that Trump repeatedly criticized on the campaign trail. The $2.6 billion plan for those plants remains intact.

This was the result of a previous announcement. Sprint initially said that these jobs were part of the previously announced 50,000-job commitment by Japan’s SoftBank — which owns about 80% of Sprint. While Sprint’s CEO said it had “nothing to do with previously announced Sprint initiatives," it appears that only the details of the initiative were new in December. The 5,000 Sprint jobs were still part of the total 50,000 pledge, as were the 3,000 OneWeb jobs.

Son told the Wall Street Journal that this money will come from a $100 billion technology investment fund that he announced in October 2016, before Trump's election. His specific pledge to create 50,000 American jobs came in December, but plans for the investment preceded Trump’s involvement, even though he claimed full credit.


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