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Guest 08-28-2008 02:24 PM

Re: Joe Biden???
 
:agree: Cassie! Well said.

Guest 08-28-2008 03:51 PM

Re: Joe Biden???
 
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I do not think anyone said they were FOR abortion...please do not put words in our mouths...however what we said was that we were FOR a woman having a choice. Everyone is entitled to make their own decisions, their own choices and have their own belief system. We are not put on this earth to judge, condemn or dictate...we are here to love and live our own life and have our beliefs. Women and Men should be allowed to choose what they want with their own bodies. This is not pro-abortion. I also do not think that Mr. Biden is pro-abortion and has never stated so. He simply believes that we are in America...land of the FREE....meaning...FREE to make ones own choices.

My opinion on abortion for myself is my OWN business....no one should tell me how to believe or act. I believe in PRO-CHOICE....


Good job, Cassie!!

So well said.

Guest 08-28-2008 04:00 PM

Re: Joe Biden???
 
Thank you for your support Ladies....I got a little fired up! Thankfully it was morning and not the late afternoon after 2 for 1's! I might not have been so nice!! ;)

Guest 08-28-2008 04:13 PM

Re: Joe Biden???
 
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I do not think anyone said they were FOR abortion...please do not put words in our mouths...however what we said was that we were FOR a woman having a choice. Everyone is entitled to make their own decisions, their own choices and have their own belief system. We are not put on this earth to judge, condemn or dictate...we are here to love and live our own life and have our beliefs. Women and Men should be allowed to choose what they want with their own bodies. This is not pro-abortion. I also do not think that Mr. Biden is pro-abortion and has never stated so. He simply believes that we are in America...land of the FREE....meaning...FREE to make ones own choices.

My opinion on abortion for myself is my OWN business....no one should tell me how to believe or act. I believe in PRO-CHOICE....

Cassie325,

I'm a proud conservitave Republican and I can't agree with you more.
I don't want the government in my business and I cant think of a more intrusive way that that could happen than in a women's right to decide what SHE wants to do with her body. I'm sure It's a gut wrenching decision and should be made by yourself to the best of your ability. Beside there is a chance of death to the mother that should be taken into consideration. Benj


Guest 08-28-2008 07:10 PM

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Bless you benj!! Rebublican, Democrat, Jewish, Christian, Black, White...and everything in between!!!! Freedom is Freedom!

OH....why can't we just all get a long! ;)

Guest 08-29-2008 12:29 AM

Should It Be A Key Issue?
 
Maybe it's because I'm male that I ask this question, but...

Should the candidate's position on pro-choice or pro-life be the litmus test that supercedes their positions on all the other issues facing the U.S.?

Remember, I asked should it be, not would it be?

Guest 08-29-2008 12:35 AM

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Absolutely not...IMHO....there are many other issues in the world and in this country that are far more important. Plus even if they tried to fight Roe Vs Wade....it would be a mighty fight! So NO let's focus on other issues that need immediate attention....

The point was that someone decided to put words in our mouths....saying we were pro-abortion versus pro-choice...and there is a big difference.

;D

Guest 09-06-2008 06:44 PM

Re: Joe Biden???
 
We were talking about Biden being a good CATHOLIC.
Has nothing to do with FREEDOM.
If you are a good Catholic, you are not pro-choise.

Guest 09-06-2008 07:59 PM

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We were talking about Biden being a good CATHOLIC.
Has nothing to do with FREEDOM.
If you are a good Catholic, you are not pro-choise.

There are many catholics in this world that are indeed pro-choice. So you have the right to say that I am NOT a good Catholic because I am pro-choice....know one has the right to do that.

Also....I am sure there are MANY other reasons you will find about me that in your opinion makes me a BAD Catholic....but again it really is not any of your business...

Guest 09-06-2008 08:10 PM

Re: Joe Biden???
 
I agree with Cassie. We are not running for office. I'm a Catholic and I am completely Pro-Choice. It is none of your business.

What I really don't like is the message this unwed pregnant seventeen year old sends to the young girls of this country. Very accepting parents and a gunshot wedding great! Now watch the rise in unmarried teen pregnancies. Can you just imagine if this was Obama's daughter! :yikes:

I guess it's Country First, Condoms Second (or not at all if it was up to Sarah Palin.)

Guest 09-06-2008 08:22 PM

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I agree with Cassie. We are not running for office. I'm a Catholic and I am completely Pro-Choice. It is none of your business.

What I really don't like is the message this unwed pregnant seventeen year old sends to the young girls of this country. Very accepting parents and a gunshot wedding great! Now watch the rise in unmarried teen pregnancies. Can you just imagine if this was Obama's daughter! :yikes:

I guess it's Country First, Condoms Second (or not at all if it was up to Sarah Palin.)


Chels...while I love you and agree with MOST everything you say...I just wanted to make clear that I wasn't even focusing on the unwed part....I had a child "outside" of a marriage...however I was 23, fully educated and employed with insurance....

My biggest issue is the fact that she is 17 years old and still in high school. It makes me think that we will have Gloucester, Mass all over again.....

17 years old! :'( :'( :'(

Guest 09-06-2008 08:26 PM

Re: Joe Biden???
 
No Cassie, you might be focusing on it, but I am. I don't want Sarah Palin anywhere near making laws for MY daughter or anyone else's for that matter.

Guest 09-06-2008 08:31 PM

Re: Joe Biden???
 
I really just don't want every teen girl in America thinking they should go get pregnant so they can married and live happily ever after! Thank you for sharing your thoughts with me....over all we are in agreement.....

Thanks!!!

;)

Guest 09-06-2008 09:12 PM

Re: Joe Biden???
 
I don't "mind" that the girl is pregnant nor that she is planning to get married right after graduation. It is none of my business. At the same time, if this were my daughter, I would be pushing hard for no marriage at this time.

Cassie, I agree that this isn't the best message to give American kids but there's really not much Palin can do about it. Her daughter is pregnant at 17. We have no idea how many battles there were at home before the parents agreed to a wedding. As I said, the best we can do is use things like this to give life lessons to our sons and daughters (or at least discussions).

What does bother me is that Palin thinks that teaching abstinance is the best sex ed for high schoolers. It seems like her daughter proves that doesn't work. Sarah Palin doesn't want "graphic sex education" in the schools. Personally, I don't want my daughter unmarried, pregnant and having a history of STDs. An abstinance curriculum does not give sufficient information IMO.

Guest 09-06-2008 09:40 PM

Re: Joe Biden???
 
Hope the topic cop doesn't scold me....slightly off topic....but....
back in, I think it was about 1989/90 or so, I wrote a letter to Paul Tagliabue, football commissioner. I requested that he take a long hard look at reinstating Dexter Manley again as he had repeated drug charges. I noted that he (Manley), as an outstanding football player, was held in high regard by our very impressionable youth, and as a psychologist, I was seriously concerned by the NFL's decision to allow him to continue playing. I realize that Manley had dealt with many issues of his own (learning disabilities), and that he was an incredibly talented man; however, there was a bigger issue at hand for me. Eventually, he was not reinstated b/c he could not pass the drug tests.

I guess the reason I wrote this was b/c becoming outraged by various issues is directly related to our own experiences in life, or what ever we hold to be near and dear to our hearts IMHO. At the time, I could not understand why other folks were not as passionate about this issue as I was. As I said once before, "thoughtful people(folks who consider issues) can and will disagree."

BTW....I never heard from Mr. Tagliabue.

md blondie


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