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Guest 09-10-2008 02:06 AM
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benj

OOOwishyudshudup

1rnfl 1rnfl Ohhhh Bright! I love you! I needed a good laugh tonight!

OOOhezanass! 1rnfl

Guest 09-10-2008 02:26 AM
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Bright

OOOwishobamawouldshutup.

OOOwheredidchrismathewsgo???
come up with original ideas of your own...Benj

Guest 09-10-2008 02:38 AM
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chelsea

Since all my OOO's reference Obama I assume you mean Obama is an ASS??

For someone as fair and open minded as you I'm surprised you have to resort to swearing but as others have mentioned here YOU are the best at namecalling. Is swearing fair game now?. I know how.

OOOishouldofbeenrepublican!!! Benj

Guest 09-10-2008 02:46 AM
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Since all my OOO's reference Obama I assume you mean Obama is an ASS??

For someone as fair and open minded as you I'm surprised you have to resort to swearing but as others have mentioned here YOU are the best at namecalling. Is swearing fair game now?. I know how.

OOOishouldofbeenrepublican!!! Benj
No Benj, that was not meant for Obama. Just a secret message to my wonderful friend Bright. Have a good evening, chels ;D

Guest 09-10-2008 03:03 AM
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chels

You know there's a dictionary on your computer maybe you can find other words than swear words to articulate your positions. Boy if all we're going to do is swear at each other I'm going to have a blast.

OOOiwantthejet!!! Benj

Guest 09-10-2008 03:10 AM
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chels

You know there's a dictionary on your computer maybe you can find other words than swear words to articulate your positions. Boy if all we're going to do is swear at each other I'm going to have a blast.

OOOiwantthejet!!! Benj
You have highjacked my thread!!! Stop it....time to call a truce! Be nice benj!!!

Guest 09-10-2008 03:13 AM
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Cassie


DID I CALL ANYONE AN ASS???

Maybe you should ask Chels to be nice, I didn't swear at anyone Benj

Guest 09-10-2008 03:31 AM
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On most of this statement we do agree Susan. Except I do have a great deal of regard for Hillary.

My only point was on the flip side of the coin, I would be careful of who I wanted to point out as a role model to MY daughter. Just because a woman makes it to a certain position in her career, doesn't automatically make her a great role model. It's got to be the entire package, not just 'The Vagina Monologues'.

Here we agree also Chels...on the basic point that is. I would not want my daughter to model herself after Hillary just because she ran for Pres. Sarah would be just fine.

Cassie with all due respect your viewpoint is so narrowly focused on just your own experience.

You make equal pay only because of the struggles and demands of those women who came before you. Most women, even today, still do not equal the wages of their male counterpart, but at least now it is possible.

You are lucky to have found a job that values family first. I too have found those jobs in my lifetime, but I have also done the 80 hour a week jobs, while raising my children.

During those times, Tom had to step up his parenting. My opinion, the more a man is allowed to parent the better parent he is. I think women have historically pushed men away from the ugly or tedious parts of parenting by assuming men can't do it as well. Just as men pushed women away from the work world when it came to the management jobs. That is changing.

Your comment about a teen needing her mother's discipline because she can wrap dad around her finger. That must be your story, it is not the story of all women.

If women want equality, we must be equal, to be equal, men must be equal. It doesn't matter who is home with the kids and who has the biggest career. It all just has to get done however, a couple want to divide the responsibilities.

Guest 09-10-2008 03:45 AM
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cassie

So chels calls me an ass. I ask her if she meant Obama is an ass she says no I'm an ass I ask her if she could find other words to use ,then you ask ME to be nice then I ask you if you would ask chels to be nice and here I sit waiting for you to ask her, and nothing. Could you be biased? Benj

Guest 09-10-2008 04:03 AM
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Here we agree also Chels...on the basic point that is. I would not want my daughter to model herself after Hillary just because she ran for Pres. Sarah would be just fine.

Cassie with all due respect your viewpoint is so narrowly focused on just your own experience.

You make equal pay only because of the struggles and demands of those women who came before you. Most women, even today, still do not equal the wages of their male counterpart, but at least now it is possible.

You are lucky to have found a job that values family first. I too have found those jobs in my lifetime, but I have also done the 80 hour a week jobs, while raising my children.

During those times, Tom had to step up his parenting. My opinion, the more a man is allowed to parent the better parent he is. I think women have historically pushed men away from the ugly or tedious parts of parenting by assuming men can't do it as well. Just as men pushed women away from the work world when it came to the management jobs. That is changing.

Your comment about a teen needing her mother's discipline because she can wrap dad around her finger. That must be your story, it is not the story of all women.

If women want equality, we must be equal, to be equal, men must be equal. It doesn't matter who is home with the kids and who has the biggest career. It all just has to get done however, a couple want to divide the responsibilities.
Susan...while I respect and appreciate what you have said here....you really should not assume that this is MY story.....in fact it is not....just my opinion.

I was a single mom and made it work by fighting and proving my worth....that I would not only have time at home with my family but also equal pay. It was not "luck" that brought me to the job I am in now...it was smart work on my part....

Perhaps Tom was a good parent and did his part...good for him and for you and for your children...

I also will say that while my mother went back to get her masters...while working full time....my father did his part.....they were a team....so this has nothing to do with my upbringing either just in case anyone questions that....but times are a little different now a days....at least in my opinion...I could go on and on with my opinions....not my experience or story....but we will just agree to disagree I guess.....

As for my comment about a daughter needing her mother especially in her teen years....sometimes it is just a womens intuition....I am sure that has no facts to back it up....but a mother knows when her child needs help.....a mother just knows!!!

Guest 09-10-2008 04:06 AM
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cassie

So chels calls me an ass. I ask her if she meant Obama is an ass she says no I'm an ass I ask her if she could find other words to use ,then you ask ME to be nice then I ask you if you would ask chels to be nice and here I sit waiting for you to ask her, and nothing. Could you be biased? Benj
Benj!!! You are right! Chels BE NICE!!!! But perhaps I am biased....because I wasn't really talking about that comment....I was talking about all of the other ones....

Let's be nice!!! Disagree...Agree....doesn't matter....let's just be nice about it!
:'(

Guest 09-10-2008 11:54 AM
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As for my comment about a daughter needing her mother especially in her teen years....sometimes it is just a womens intuition....I am sure that has no facts to back it up....but a mother knows when her child needs help.....a mother just knows!!!
I beg to differ. If that were true, the teen birth rate would not be stratospheric, runaways would be down, suicides and other such stuff would not be on the rise, and all sorts of other distress situations wouold go away. While one may be more observant to warning signs (if one wants to, and that is not gender-unique) being a mother (or father) does not make one a mind reader.

I'm sorry, but that's somewhat sexist and chauvanistic.

Guest 09-10-2008 01:22 PM
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I beg to differ. If that were true, the teen birth rate would not be stratospheric, runaways would be down, suicides and other such stuff would not be on the rise, and all sorts of other distress situations would go away. While one may be more observant to warning signs (if one wants to, and that is not gender-unique) being a mother (or father) does not make one a mind reader.
I'm sorry, but that's somewhat sexist and chauvinistic.
Don't apologize....again thank you...I KNOW I am not always right...in other people's minds...

I do "feel" that mothers have better instincts (notice I said I FEEL not I KNOW) but perhaps I am not giving fathers a chance....not all deserve one...(my Dad is great by the way)but perhaps most do....read what I found...I guess I am going to the book store today...Thanks again Steve... ;)

http://www.betweenfathersanddaughters.com/course.asp


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